[alexxisonline]

"Leviathan.Auraeon
Score: 25

Very nice body piece for main healing as Scholar. Unfortunately, this is the only body piece that Scholar can wear that has Auto-refresh on it, so we're forced to go without a hat in order to have the Auto-refresh effect

Although Yigit set is equipable by Scholar and gives a set: refresh effect, it doesn't let you equip MP gear in other slots when main healing while keeping the auto-refresh effect.

This Cloak is also equipable 13 levels or so before Yigit set is. Very much worth it, in my opinion, however I do hope later on down the line, they(Square-Enix) will give Scholar a body piece with Auto-refresh on it that let's you wear a head piece at the same time, like Summoner's Yinyang Robe perhaps."
-ffxiah.com, on VERMILLION/ROYAL CLOAK


I disagree with this, why the hell would 1 tick of refresh trump all of the bonuses we get from our AF? Not to mention you don't need auto- refresh with a BRD or COR in the party. And doesn't Sanction refresh work with sublimation? I'm not sure. Either way, I have no idea what to wear when main healing as SCH aside from a ton of MP + minor MND gear + AF + Light staff.
any suggestions? i freaking love mainhealing as sch, I just wanna make sure im going to be wearing the best thank you

[.Sotek.]

I disagree with this, why the hell would 1 tick of refresh trump all of the bonuses we get from our AF?

AF Body/Head really aren't good peices for main healing anyway (well, enhances sublimation has its place).
Where's the problem with that exactly?

[alexxisonline]

aside from being 600k... >.>?
um, AF gives more MP than even royal's cloak and enhances sublimation basically covers the "refresh" effect of royal/vermy.. i just think it's retarded when people have that kind of tunnel vision. maybe if I already HAD vermillion cloak.. but they're prohibitively expensive for someone who has been playing a newly renewed account/char with only 200k to spare. No, I'm not leveling my thf past 25 or endlessly farming for a vermy when AF is about as effective.

[.Sotek.]

I just wanna make sure im going to be wearing the best

No, I'm not leveling my thf past 25 or endlessly farming for a vermy when AF is about as effective.

Good luck with that.

[alexxisonline]

way to take shit out of context so you are saying vermy is the absolute best for sch mainhealing...?
interesting, why?

[.Sotek.]

I'm not saying its the best for main healing. I'm saying its better than AF.
I certainly have no idea why you'd wear Scholar's gown for main healing. Sublimation is usually charged before I've lost enough MP for it to give me all it's charged, not because I've not used MP though, but because I recover MP other ways while waiting. Having it charge faster seems pointless. For sole main healing a Gold Hairpin+1 seems better.

All that said though, I will probably wear AF while tossing out cures, simply becasue I'm to lazy to make a larger cure macro and they'll still be on from nuking.

I'm getting a Vermillion to /heal in though

[meow]

first of all the comment about v.cloak you quote is old, it's not the only refresh piece sch can wear anymore (ixion cloak)

when sublimation is active af hat is as good as v.cloak, and now you can get relic body, +2 mp for sublimation is better than auto refresh, so v.cloak only benefit you during the 30 sec between sublimation, about 10 mp.

if you stack conserve mp gear for main healing you can easily save more than 10 mp every few min.

[Deo2]

Facts:
(60)Sch AF1 head: 15mp + sublimation +1hp>mp/tick (3/tick total)
(58)Sch AF1 body: 13mp + dark arts: skills +15

(75)Sch AF2 head: 10mp + elemental skill +7
(74)Sch AF2 body: 15mp + enhancing skill +7 + sublimation +1hp>mp/tick

So with af1 hat and af2 body that's 30mp and sublimation rate increased by 2.

(59)Vermillion Cloak: 10mp +1%mp and 1mp/tick autorefresh.

At the level you can get it, the vermy is 1 level sooner in getting you +1mp/tick. Once you get the hat, it comes down human reaction time and lag versus constant automatic 1mp/tick. For main healing, it's not bad. probably about 3-5mp between sublimation cycles.

Now, when you get the AF2 body with the AF1 hat, then the vermy isn't so great. You just gotta wait about 15 levels and have a dynamis shell with favorable lot options.

[Ratatapa]

Vermillion cloak (due to refresh) > Goliard Saio > errant > AF1

As for head piece can always use Af1 head till you get af2 or goliard (if you dont use Vcloak)

[Rollan]

Depends on what you're healing.
Personally, I use Goliard Saio, due to the -enmity.
SCH can't wear too much with cure potency and whatnot, but in place, we can put MP, MND, and -enmity.
I don't know why people think Vermillion Cloak is good for healing when it doesn't have a single bit of -enmity.

Especially when you're healing and throwing out AoE Stoneskin/Phalanx... which is a considerable amount of hate.
The same amount of hate if the Stoneskin hit all in the party compared to a provoke.

So , in any give situation, I'd use Goliard Saio anyday.

Edit: Oh, forgot the Conserve MP too.
Take that V-Cloak lovers.

[Ellatrix]

Hint: You can macro things for cure spells then switch back to idle that has sublimation+ or refresh!

I use goliard hat/body for cures.

[Acturus]

Depends on what you're healing.

this

Vermy Cloak is an idle piece. It is not a cure piece. Just because it gives Refresh doesn't mean it enhances your cures.

Goliard Saio enhances your cures. Technically, Errant Hpl. enhances your cures (-3 Enmity).

Scholar's Gown does not enhance your cures.

But really, now, must we degenerate into another "omg vermy cloak is superficial and any1 who has 1 is dum".

Vermillion Cloak is an excellent piece of idle gear that, like many excellent pieces of gear, is overpriced and has alternatives. If you have one, use it when appropriate. If you don't have one, okay, life goes on.

[Rollan]

I sold my Royals when the mighty Scholar Gods gave us Sublimation.
I never used it, and well.. I'm just too damn lazy to put it on when I have Stored MP, or the 30 seconds we wait inbetween Subs.

[Wakmidget]

Hint: You can macro things for cure spells then switch back to idle that has sublimation+ or refresh!

I use goliard hat/body for cures.

I use AF2 hat for curing, same MND and it has the Fast Cast of a RDM AF2 body imo makes it better. -enmity is nice, but eh. if I want it that bad. I can put it on other slots. Fast Cast only 2 slots that have Fast Cast equivalent to RDM AF.

[Banggugyangu]

I don't understand why we have people using full MND builds for curing when our best cure is soft-capped. Anything other than potency or weather/obi will have very marginal increases to our curing effectiveness.

Regarding vermy cloak and ixion cloak:

In situations where Sublimation and Sublimation + Auto refresh equal in amount gained per tick, Auto-refresh pulls ahead by 10MP per 3-X minutes varying by the total number of HP you have. If you care to spend the money on one of these cloaks for that small boost, by all means spend your money.

In situations where Sublimation alone is 4 MP/tick, Sublimation pulls ahead by a relatively large amount. If you have relic body and use vermy cloak for anything other than topping off MP when sublimation is charged, you're foolish and/or stubborn.

The argument of sublimation removing HP as it stores MP is a moot point for healing. If you're healing a meripo, you should have stoneskin up at all times regardless of sublimation due to AOEing the buff for your melee's.

[Yoona]

Vermillion cloak (due to refresh) > Goliard Saio > errant > AF1

As for head piece can always use Af1 head till you get af2 or goliard (if you dont use Vcloak)

I really hope that you're referring to what you should be wearing while idle and not what you should be wearing while casting healing spells...V.cloak offers absolutely no stats that are worth using during any spells. For idle sets I would say wear AF hat and relic body until you cap sublimation. Once sublimation caps you can swap to either v.cloak or ixion cloak if you have it. For cure spells the best options are goliard or royal red. augmented with fast cast and enmity-5.

[Ratatapa]

well yeah was just writting that fast

Meant Vcloak when idling and Sublimation full,

but to heal Goliard Saio pretty much own all

[Dr. Ifto]

Could always make the ridiculously ugly Royal Redingote into a badass healing body piece.

[Noticiero]

This Cloak is also equipable 13 levels or so before Yigit set is. Very much worth it, in my opinion, however I do hope later on down the line, they(Square-Enix) will give Scholar a body piece with Auto-refresh on it that let's you wear a head piece at the same time, like Summoner's Yinyang Robe perhaps."
-ffxiah.com, on VERMILLION/ROYAL CLOAK


wearing vermillion cloak its a no no why u want to wear that when you got the same mp tic effect with sch af1 hat, unless you want to waste your gil really good on that ugly body piece

[Noticiero]

I really hope that you're referring to what you should be wearing while idle and not what you should be wearing while casting healing spells...V.cloak offers absolutely no stats that are worth using during any spells. For idle sets I would say wear AF hat and relic body until you cap sublimation. Once sublimation caps you can swap to either v.cloak or ixion cloak if you have it. For cure spells the best options are goliard or royal red. augmented with fast cast and enmity-5.

i agree thats what im triying to say