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STR vs RATK

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I am confused on what out-weights what.

I know 2 STR = 1 ratk

When it comes to gear for WS's and what done what out does what.

What is better 5 STR or 10 ratk.

For example should I use a 2 STR earring or a +5 ratk earring?

Thanks~
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QUOTE (Ezekial @ Apr 18 2009, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am confused on what out-weights what.

I know 2 STR = 1 ratk

When it comes to gear for WS's and what done what out does what.

What is better 5 STR or 10 ratk.

For example should I use a 2 STR earring or a +5 ratk earring?

Thanks~



5 STR = ~2 RATK, so RATK+10 is better.

Uhh... Only +5 RATK earrings I can think of are Ladybug Earrings, which are only active during the day. Depending on the WS you're using, STR or RACC would probably be more beneficial, just because of the simple fact the earrings would be useless at night. =x

Though, if you wanna pay attention to when its day time, RATK Earrings > STR earrings due to the "low" amount of STR on Triumph Earrings.

From what I've been told, if the RATK is more than the STR, use the RATK.
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Oddly speaking, Str isn't a modifier for weaponskills, yet is more beneficial than Agi. I assume this is because Str raises attack value of ranged attacks, in which case if you can get more ranged attack for equipment slot, obviously ranged attack is better, if I'm thinking this through right.

QUOTE (Aledacia @ Apr 19 2009, 12:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uhh... Only +5 RATK earrings I can think of are Ladybug Earrings, which are only active during the day. Depending on the WS you're using, STR or RACC would probably be more beneficial, just because of the simple fact the earrings would be useless at night. =x

The question was likely in reference to the new augmented ruby earrings that can reach +5 ranged attack. Ranged accuracy earrings can also be obtained through Ivory key rewards.
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QUOTE (Ezekial @ Apr 18 2009, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am confused on what out-weights what.

I know 2 STR = 1 ratk


By first glance, it appears 2 STR = 1 RATK, but in reality, STR is more than just that.

fSTR, which is placed into all melee/ranged attack calculations, weither it be weapon skills (even without the modifier being effected by STR, I.E Detonator), or just standard swinging/shooting, is still an apparent statistic.

Not entirely worthwhile as a melee, unless you're a Monk, but for ranged attacks, it has a noteable effect as far as I'm aware, partly due to the shooting radius mathematics applied.. I may be wrong though, as to exactly why STR has a much more worthwhile effect for shooting, than meleeing. Most likely because there's Haste for melee, while for shooters... there isn't. mellow.gif

Nonetheless, at the 80DMG~ range, 3 STR pretty much equates to 1 DMG, added onto your damage calculation. 1 DMG? Probably worth a good 5~ R.ATK, easily, assuming you were at mid-ground attack rating.

The difference, is that (ranged) attack rating can be capped... keep in mind though, that this is far from possible, anywhere, anytime (barring, say, Forest Hares, where you're basically capped on every statistic). On the other hand, STR.. has no limit.

For the STR to become extremely potent though, you have to break the defense "barrier" with your attack rating. This, is most likely plausible for COR, via Berserk, Minuet IV, and Chaos Roll. Now, even say, without the Berserk, there's still room for STR!

With that said, I can't quite say for sure what the correct ratio is for STR#:ATK#, but, the thing you need to know: Attack can be capped, while STR cannot be... and even if it can be, there's not enough STR available in the game for it to happen. >_>

A quick comparison though? I'd probably roll with my Bushinomimi over an R.ATK earring, pretty much any day of the week. That, and I'd probably use Pahluwan Seraweels over Skadi's Chausses, but.. then your -hit build with Joyeuse is bumped up by one, which in my opinion, isn't worth giving up for the 3 STR, unfortunately!
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AGI is more important for sure.
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when did things change where 10 R attack is better then 4 str? I asked this question before because i did not know what to go with taru 2 rse or AF for rng

witch is 4 str vs 10 r attack and they said str is better.
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QUOTE (Falaras @ Apr 18 2009, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

AGI is more important for sure.


I got that Jtorque too happy.gif
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QUOTE (Falaras @ Apr 18 2009, 09:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

AGI is more important for sure.


THREE YEARS AGO, yes it was. Thank you for leaving us in the dark... though, I did learn eventually, thanks to helpful sources.

But alas: Back then as well, Scout's Jerkin was the shit apparently BRO. mellow.gif

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I got that Jtorque too


We all did (you/me/Res'/Miz'). >_>
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Nothings changed in three years, though its good to know you learned from something because I never would have imagined.
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I assume you atleast have an 'Osode for your Scout's Jerkin slot now then, eh ohmy.gif
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Don't even play Rng anymore, but yeah its dumb to use something that increases Rapid Shot when your your racc capped.
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Don't even play Rng anymore, but yeah its dumb to use something that increases Rapid Shot when your your racc capped.


spoilerssssssssssssssss

...wait what?
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I guess even with all that gear wopaco gave you and those samurais you copied, you're still an idiot.
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QUOTE (Falaras @ Apr 19 2009, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess even with all that gear wopaco gave you and those samurais (get it fucking right with the plural) you copied, you're still an idiot.


Imitation? Shit DAWG, if that's the case, you're a step behind even itty-bitty me with your usuhead ;_;

no but seriously: it's pretty hard (see: impossible) to imitate something when there's only one way of doing it.

BUT THAT'S ALRIGHT, because using relic as an excuse for not trying to look like a piece of garbage, is totally acceptable. Scout's Jerkin and Koga Chainmail, they're really good <call4>

kill yourself and go get the money for an osode and haub +1


in other news, my pc randomly crashed from the amount of trolling in this thread, apparently. go packers
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Wearing my STR+3 rings LIKE A BOSS.
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.........................

ok now this is getting weird with all this aqua ring up in here

assuming that's the real magicace:

hi
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#17
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Couldn't hear you over my Sun Rings.



Also:
It is.
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#18
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I love that the worst geared sam I ever met is bashing me for using Relic body during city dynamis where my racc was capped anyways and Koga Chainmail because it looked cool.
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nigga, you examined me the other day in obvious envy, get real with "worst geared sam ever" when that shit was
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THREE YEARS AGO


and we're back at square one: should've had an osode for fstr, quit being a piece garbage ect. now i know you're trolling like a motherfucker

walking out to faf, brb bro

PS: red like ferrari = faggotry, quit being gimp and use haub already
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