[ASHLY]

for now my rng gear
http://ffxigear.com/?ref=3400

i see some SS with WS dmg over 3k ... my highest only 1.6k with drg debuff .... and on Gods i hit 700~800 as highest dmg for my rng

i use this equip set full time ,,,,,, i know i fail as rng xD sometimes i switch head equip 2 O-hat for extra acc when i miss few
with the body i got +10 r.atk +10 r.acc

any advice ?

sry for the bad english ^^;;;;

[Hoshiku]

i think you'd get higher numbers by adding more str to your ws setup, although i worry you'll miss more with the way you're currently geared. you might want to get a few of the better rng acc pieces as well for your weaponskills (s kote and an elemental gorget). the easy changes you could make to your setup are: str rings (nq if you have to T.T) and phaluwan seraweels. if you have a lot of extra gil you could also pick up a triumph earring. here is my weaponskill setup (i've had decent success with it although there are better): http://ffxigear.com/?ref=3446

[Greeber]

This is what i sidewinder in- http://ffxigear.com/?ref=3449

Thats with 8/8 archery merits and 5/5 str merits. Idk what i do on gods anymore (havent done them as rng in years lol), but ive recently done the ks99 behemoth and did about 1700 max /war and using squid sushi (no brd or cor either). I averaged between 1300-1500.


And this is my TP setup - http://ffxigear.com/?ref=3450

I know there are things i can change about my setup but I like it.

[Lurker01]

People don't reach 3k damage with just 1-2 buff/debuff.

They go all out with at least Dia III, zerk+warcry, double minuet, and attack food.

Also, don't even bother with Mekki Shaki unless you're going to eat sushi.

[Papoose]

http://ffxigear.com/?ref=3552

That was my WS setup. I was able to hit 800-900 on gods with debuffs. I'd hit high numbers (1600+) on birds as /WAR. Full Archery merit's though.

In my personal opinion, I think an Osode, archery merits, STR merits, elemental gorget, Vulcan's Staff, Rajas/Flame Ring, Triumph Earring and Bucc/Scout's Belt would improve your overall damage (TP and WS wise). I'm pretty sure you don't have access to an Osode which is why you're using that ACP body, but if/when you do, that ACP body would be better suited as a TP piece (Snapshot+). Also, it might not make a huge difference, but I'd always WS with Kabura Arrows. You could try that and see if that bumps your numbers up a little.

[Vakso]

Ok first reaching 3k is tough. How tough? I'll give you an idea.

This is the current balls to the wall WS set: http://ffxigear.com/?ref=3651

Still lacking Skadi hands but it works. Now even with all of that, Minuet x1, bersek, warcry, and flashy shot the highest I've reached is the high 2800's range. On average with those same buffs not counting flashy shot warcry and allot of times food........ my average with berserk up is about mid 2500's to low 2600s.

I've broken 3k many times you just need some help. This SS:

That was done before my Hachiryu haidate and Gnadbhod's helm and also was only a Kabura arrow not a PPA. Flashy shot, Bersek, warcry minuet x1 chaos roll and Angon is what let me break 3k on that one. I haven't gone to birds on RNG with a DRG since I obtained allot of my new toys so who knows how high I can push it now. Using Dia III and all out self buffs plus prolly 2 minuets I bet now I could easily break 3k without angon but I don't merit much on any job anymore, because the only job I have yet to cap in merits is SMN and well...... fuck SMN. I also have RDM and SAM which are cheaper jobs to merit with.

I strongly encourage you (talking to the OP) to take the time to create different WS and TP set ups. Using just 1 set up for everything is not horrible if you don't really play RNG much or its not important too you. However anyone can tell you having different sets for things will make a huge difference in how well you will preform in all situations.

This is my current TP set (Body augments are rACC and rATT + 10): http://ffxigear.com/?ref=3653

Working on getting another pair of W hands (got those when I first got sky over 4 years ago just never bothed with HQ then and I was only RDM back then too =/ )

(should mention I've always been 8/8 Archery Merits. I had them done before RNG even dinged 75 thanks to RDMs archery skill!)

[Icerat]

Ok, I have a very NOOB RNG question. I would appreciate any advice.

I leveled RNG waaaaay back in the day when melee was used before the nerf. I hit 75 RNG and never did anything else with it. I moved on to WHM and hit 75 on that and merited and went to Sky and Dynamis ect. I am looking to go back to RNG because I miss the job. The problem is that I have 2 pcs from Dynamis, feet and legs and the rest normal AF for EQ so I am very gimpy. I have not merited anything and have no idea what would be best to equip as far as reasonable gear and weapons (decent yet affordable) to succeed and get better with the ultimate goal of getting the eq that everyone already has as RNG. Thanks for the help.

[Lambtor]

the only 2 pieces you'd want from dynamis are the legs and feet you already own. the belt is great too, of course.

to the OP:
almost every single big # screenshot you see is more a product of that RNG's support than it is by that person themselves. almost all the big # shots you see of barrages are from triple dmg procs of a relic.

someone might as well write a guide for "how do i do the dmg i see in other people's screenshots?"

[Papoose]

Ice,

Main: Fire Staff, Fransisca, Trailer's Kukri, Hawker's Knife, Chiroptera Dagger
Sub: Axe Grip for a staff or any combination consisting of the axe/daggers listed above
Head: Wyvern Helm, Optical Hat, AF, War Beret
Neck: Ranger's Necklace, Jagd Gorget
Ears: Drone Earrings, Bushinomimi
Body: Mirke Wardecors, Denali Jacket, Hunter's Jerkin, Archer's Jupon
Hands: Deadeye Gloves, Denali Wristbands
Rings: The best +R.ACC or +STR rings you can get
Back: Amemet Mantle +1, there's no substitute
Waist: R.K. Belt +2, Venturer's Belt
Legs: Relic
Feet: Relic

I think these are all very easy to get and most of it is affordable. I'm pretty sure you can see what an ideal set up is just by looking at a few other threads in the RNG section, so I wont get in to what you should be aiming for.

Like Lambtor mentioned, the relic legs and feet are the only ones you need. Just try to +1 those two and you'll be set for a long time in the feet/legs department.

And as far as the "How do I hit big numbers as RNG?" guide, here's a quick answer:

It's easy to hit big numbers on anything you fight as RNG. All you need are two BRD's with fully merited Minuet to SV the four Minuet songs on you, another two to SV Sinewy/Herculean Etudes and Hunters/Archers Preludes, a lucky COR with a DRK in your party for DRK's roll and RNG's roll, Dia III, Angon, someone else to land an Acid Bolt, lv. 5 Box Step/Sluggish Daze, Red Curry, Warcry, Berserk, Velocity Shot, Flashy Shot, PPA, merits, amazing gear and a Raise III. Granted, the raise wont help you hit harder but you're probably going to end up needing it.

It's that simple!

[Ture]

you forgot to mention a mob that is weak to piercing.

[Vakso]

Granted, the raise wont help you hit harder but you're probably going to end up needing it.

If your fighting Colibri odds are the thing will be dead before you will be. 3k is about 40 - 45% or more, of the mobs health if your killing Great Colibri. I would expect the other melee in your burn party to be able to do the rest without a problem. Then again I dont party ever with noobs or gimp ass DDs.

Now if your talking Dynamis Lord or kirin odds are you are only reaching that amount because your in a Zerg. Odds are again shits going to be dead before you are, if you are lucky.

[Ture]

That is where the term spray and pray comes in to play.

[Icerat]

Ice,

Main: Fire Staff, Fransisca, Trailer's Kukri, Hawker's Knife, Chiroptera Dagger
Sub: Axe Grip for a staff or any combination consisting of the axe/daggers listed above
Head: Wyvern Helm, Optical Hat, AF, War Beret
Neck: Ranger's Necklace, Jagd Gorget
Ears: Drone Earrings, Bushinomimi
Body: Mirke Wardecors, Denali Jacket, Hunter's Jerkin, Archer's Jupon
Hands: Deadeye Gloves, Denali Wristbands
Rings: The best +R.ACC or +STR rings you can get
Back: Amemet Mantle +1, there's no substitute
Waist: R.K. Belt +2, Venturer's Belt
Legs: Relic
Feet: Relic

I think these are all very easy to get and most of it is affordable. I'm pretty sure you can see what an ideal set up is just by looking at a few other threads in the RNG section, so I wont get in to what you should be aiming for.

Like Lambtor mentioned, the relic legs and feet are the only ones you need. Just try to +1 those two and you'll be set for a long time in the feet/legs department.

And as far as the "How do I hit big numbers as RNG?" guide, here's a quick answer:

It's easy to hit big numbers on anything you fight as RNG. All you need are two BRD's with fully merited Minuet to SV the four Minuet songs on you, another two to SV Sinewy/Herculean Etudes and Hunters/Archers Preludes, a lucky COR with a DRK in your party for DRK's roll and RNG's roll, Dia III, Angon, someone else to land an Acid Bolt, lv. 5 Box Step/Sluggish Daze, Red Curry, Warcry, Berserk, Velocity Shot, Flashy Shot, PPA, merits, amazing gear and a Raise III. Granted, the raise wont help you hit harder but you're probably going to end up needing it.

It's that simple!

Thanks, I have most of that set up so I guess I am not doing too bad. I will try for the items I am missing, mainly body. I just seem to hit for such low damage on anything I fight, it is frustrating......

[Karamethien]

The problem is without proper support a Rng in a pick up party will almost never go over 2k.

So don't feel bad. If you are eating meat and using Bow in a pick up party, you are doing good with 1.4k-ish WSes at Mamool Staging point.

[Icerat]

Oh, that is good to know, thanks

[Ratatapa]

my noob question

Do RNG actually melee before velocity shot Or it's not necessary?

[Papoose]

my noob question

Do RNG actually melee before velocity shot Or it's not necessary?

Do you mean prior to VS coming out? No idea.

As for now, I think the only RNG's that melee are Kraken Club or Ridill owners. Other then that, not worth it.

[Antithesis]

Do you mean prior to VS coming out? No idea.

As for now, I think the only RNG's that melee are Kraken Club or Ridill owners. Other then that, not worth it.

Prior to VS, Haste + Melee during merit parties and dual wielding was ok, but mostly only for merit parties. Even before VS came out it was still shoot for TP on anything else.

[Rikkitikkitavi]

Do you mean prior to VS coming out? No idea.

As for now, I think the only RNG's that melee are Kraken Club or Ridill owners. Other then that, not worth it.

Even with a Ridill and /war you would still do more damage shooting no?

I can't imagine how a ridill would out-damage a ranger with a 6 hit setup with merits / VS.

I mean, I have a pretty decent melee setup...



But I don't see that out-damaging a vulcans/axe grip and spamming arrows. Nor do I see it getting to 100% TP faster.

RNG have a pretty low sword skill If I remember. (210) at level 75. Club skill is even lower (200) at 75.

Not only that, but using the new Racc/Ratk food would not benefit your melee at all. A Ridill user would have to use sushi, and thus sacrifice ratk on his sidewinders.

There is also a huge thread on the use of ridill/mkris/KC and the time it takes to get to 100% tp, that basically said this....

Conclusion - Melee only if you have a KC, and use a Gun instead of a Bow, since you won't be using alot of ammo. That is all.

[Antithesis]

Why would you bother meleeing at all without a Kraken Club? Snapshot merits and Velocity Shot make meleeing for TP an archaic tactic.