[Kuz]

My personal opinion on COR pulling...

too slow.

YES a peacemaker has a fast delay...
but between running to pull and tossing rolls up...
then depending on if you're subbing a mage job to support party...

I find it to be hectic.
and the party gets impatient when the chain drops because you're juggling too much.

again, just how i feel... cause i feel the pain of the party members when there's a rediculous delay in pull time.

[hideo]

I pull, keep up four rolls, help sleep links, Dispel All in one group and I never lost a chain due to any of that.

[Kuz]

I pull, keep up four rolls, help sleep links, Dispel All in one group and I never lost a chain due to any of that.

you sir...are a better man then me

seriously though..toss me pointers on that.
because apparently i'm all butterfingers when it comes to doing 20 things at once

[Kandi_]

i simply mean in levels where keeping 4 rolls up is possible. and by pulling theres plenty of times u miss out on rolling, and btw the time u come back, that effects the timers.

as for merit PTs, i wouldnt know, ive had a COR ONCE, and the BRD was pulling.
but at low Lvls, its a pain in the ass only having 1-2 rolls up, because the PT keeps making them go look for monsters.

[hideo]

My roll is every four mins instead of the max 5 mins, that way if Im pullin i have a extra min in between. if we link thats obvious Sleep dat sheeit, Dispel is whenever I can if we have a guy who can dispel. Unless we don't have someone who can dispel, then well that's obvious as well.

[Kilhart]

My personal opinion on COR pulling...

too slow.

YES a peacemaker has a fast delay...
but between running to pull and tossing rolls up...
then depending on if you're subbing a mage job to support party...

I find it to be hectic.
and the party gets impatient when the chain drops because you're juggling too much.

again, just how i feel... cause i feel the pain of the party members when there's a rediculous delay in pull time.

It's ridiculously easy as COR to solo pull, keep 4 rolls up, keep shadows up, and keep mobs slept at 72+.

Again, list all the jobs that are better pullers than COR, aside from BRD, since you think COR is one of the worst pullers in the game.

[Kuz]

It's ridiculously easy as COR to solo pull, keep 4 rolls up, keep shadows up, and keep mobs slept at 72+.

Again, list all the jobs that are better pullers than COR, aside from BRD, since you think COR is one of the worst pullers in the game.

Hmmm... Never said it was the "Worst" in the game. just said nearly anything else could do it faster.

I also said it was my own personal opinion and that personally i wasn't good at it.

thats why I asked Hideo for tips.

if you have any for me, by all means please share.

[Jaybb]

IMO with one of these most any job can out pull a Cor. Cor and Rng are the only jobs that cannot sacrifice this slot, so there forced to pull with what ever there already using. Personally I would rather pull on Rdm then on Cor. ;/

[Katchoo]

Can we please PLEASE!!!! not have yet another COR pulling debate. Srsly .... just srsly have we not done this topic to death?

[Arkley]

IMO with one of these most any job can out pull a Cor. Cor and Rng are the only jobs that cannot sacrifice this slot, so there forced to pull with what ever there already using. Personally I would rather pull on Rdm then on Cor. ;/

You don't seem to understand how COR pulling works. When a COR pulls, it's like a BRD pulling. They just grab the mob, take it back, Light Shot it, toss up any rolls that need to go up, and then go get another mob. When CORs pull, they're not there to do damage, they're there to pull. CORs can sacrifice their ranged slot, in fact, I do it all the time in high speed parties. I use darts (faster than any of the -banes) and macro to my gun for Light Shot. Yes, I lose TP, but I lose TP anyway switching between Light Staff for Light Shot and Earth Staff for my -dmg% pulling set, and the party is not going to miss a 600dmg Peacemaker Slug every 6 fights.

Virtually no job is a faster puller than COR, even Peacemaker's speed is faster than elegy, and ranged weapons have a longer range than it too (always nice for sniping mobs from different levels at birdies). Rolls are instant, Double Up is instant, Snake Eye, Fold etc, all instant. It's faster to toss up rolls than it is to sing songs, and since they're instant, you can even do it while juggling shadows to tank a mob if you can't sleep it yet. Light Shot is faster, more accurate, lasts longer than Lullaby and birds don't reflect it. The only thing a BRD can really do better than a COR when pulling is crowd control.

[Blueyes]

To be honest I actually sometimes get annoyed by Bard pulling. If your merit party isn't quite perfect and it can sometimes take a couple extra seconds for your damage dealers to kill birds, it gets annoying when the Bard pulls a bird, the bird starts flying over, then stops to cast a spell... That little delay when the mob stops moving and party has to rush over to it, those few seconds can be enough to break chain. In Corsair's case, this is never an issue.

[Kuz]

Can we please PLEASE!!!! not have yet another COR pulling debate. Srsly .... just srsly have we not done this topic to death?

sorry, just listed it as a pet peeve. didn't want it to turn into a debate.

Perhaps I just need to work on the skills, maybe give it a shot (no pun) this weekend.
see if it changes my opinion.

I was just speaking from prior experience from a while ago when pulling.
Honestly, haven't been in a true fast-paced merit/exp party on COR in a while.

[Kaparu]

To be honest I actually sometimes get annoyed by Bard pulling. If your merit party isn't quite perfect and it can sometimes take a couple extra seconds for your damage dealers to kill birds, it gets annoying when the Bard pulls a bird, the bird starts flying over, then stops to cast a spell... That little delay when the mob stops moving and party has to rush over to it, those few seconds can be enough to break chain. In Corsair's case, this is never an issue.

This is why intelligent Bards don't pull with songs.

[Corrderio]

At this point in the game I pretty much gave up on the coumminity understanding COR. COR is usually standing in a BRDs shadow from my experience.

[Saxonian]

Or intelligent brd's know when to pull with songs and when to pull with lamiabane?
Since pulling with songs can save a few seconds if it makes it back to the camp before the current one is dead. If you're rushing then just quickly change to Lamiabane...
Also w/ 50% slow on the mob makes it easier just to utsu tank.

[Kilhart]

IMO with one of these most any job can out pull a Cor. Cor and Rng are the only jobs that cannot sacrifice this slot, so there forced to pull with what ever there already using. Personally I would rather pull on Rdm then on Cor. ;/

oh u

All of COR's job-specific actions are instant and can be blinked to prevent any loss of motion (unless using a ranged attack or casting utsusemi). Also, Peacemaker has lower delay than Lamiabane. Not to mention, with 5/5 QD acc merits, it's near impossible to miss Light Shot on a merit mob, even without a QD build. Two years of meriting on COR and I don't remember the last time I missed Light Shot in merit.

For the final nail in the coffin, aside from BRD, COR has about the least to sacrifice in a merit party by pulling. Making your healer pull forces you to lose a lot of, well, healing, and making one of your fulltime DDs pull (hopefully) sacrifices more damage than making the COR pull.

[Ezekial]

Short answer? People are stupid.





Long answer? People are really stupid.

I 100% agree with this.

lol silence shot