[Darkfalz89]

Yes, for a while now me and a friend of mine were considering to level pup together but came across something when looking at the mage frames. It says a 24 second recast on spells, now i could be reading this wrong (more than likely i am) but is it mean that mage pup casts every 24 seconds, whether its a heal/debuff/ or buff? If so i would say soloing would be very difficult. All im really asking is how the behavior in terms of recasts work. Say for example a mob is easier to kill when you got a full row of debuffs, if it took the puppet 24 sec per cast, mob would be dead by the second or third debuff :X. This may be a very dumb question but do help me out my friends

[Griss]

yes you are reading correctly the mage frames are globally restricted to casting once per 24 seconds. this can be lowered with the mana booster attachment and ice manuvers.

soloing boils down mainly to one thing automaton control. how ever the seemingly randomness of the ai can sometimes make this difficult. you really do have to earn your tittle of puppetmaster

[Xmacabrex]

Solo'ing on pup is frustrating because the way it prioritizes its damn spells, i gave up, leveled dnc to 75 and it is much more rewarding

[Darkfalz89]

Solo'ing on pup is frustrating because the way it prioritizes its damn spells, i gave up, leveled dnc to 75 and it is much more rewarding

well thats a goddamn shame, was it always like that or did they nerf the spell cast? And what is technically the lowest you can get the cast speed with the best equips/manuevers while still being able to heal? I have another question, is it viable when duoing with a friend to have one of us use the tank puppet and other use ranged and swap off? Or is the melee puppets tank not that good? Not worried about total hate control but just being able to take the damage from mobs.Or if anyone managed to get a good duo setup for pup that worked well, if you dont mind telling me.

[Saniiro]

Honestly... Soloing is pretty easy in general... around 55 it gets easier, especially since you can just do campaign.

The lowest you can get the casting time is 20 seconds, I believe, but you'll want to have at least 1 light maneuver up to prioritize cures at a higher HP% so probably like 22 seconds? I can't remember offhand.

It's not -that- bad...

[Darkfalz89]

Honestly... Soloing is pretty easy in general... around 55 it gets easier, especially since you can just do campaign.

The lowest you can get the casting time is 20 seconds, I believe, but you'll want to have at least 1 light maneuver up to prioritize cures at a higher HP% so probably like 22 seconds? I can't remember offhand.

It's not -that- bad...

you see i always thought it would be cool to have a red mage puppet fully debuff a mob but then that does become hard, waiting 22 seconds for a much needed cure? o well i cant be perfect. Just wondering still if they did in fact nerf the cast delay or has it always been the same since i recall a friend soloing coli, so if it wasnt nerfed i can do it too And hows the exp in campaign? never tried it.

[Griss]

the xp in campaign can vary from fight to fight. sometimes you get a decent ammount of mobs. other times bubkiss.

that i know of the cast time has always been this way. of course if your refering to the hyper harliqin glitch well that was just a glitch. like any time your soloing on any job things go good and they go bad. and then there is always the dad trick if your really hurting for a cure.

though frankly if you /dnc soloing most things are pretty easy. unless you feal super ballsy and try to take something that just clicked down into t range. unless things go totaly wrong its pretty safe to solo on em mobs sometimes t. but then the randomness and oh shit moments is par for the course with any job with solo capability

[Bladen of ifrit]

Well ive never really had any major difficulties with soloing and the recast timers. I start off with a dark manny up so the auto blinds the mob then stick up a light manny for cures then an ice manny for nukes and shorter time between spells. Normally though the next spell is dia II thanks to + eva gear, traits and blind you dont get hit that much between spells. Maybe every couple of spells with be a cure III then the rest are nukes. /dnc and /whm help when your auto get a bit thick and casts stupid things at the wrong times.


Ive had more problems in pts with the mage frame than soloing. Equiping a scanner so it doesnt cast same element magic as the mobs i found it just didnt cast at all and just stood there I dont know if it was just the mobs we were fighting but it was rather weird. Though it did start casting Blizzard when the bard got the ice weakening song to stick.

[Deo2]

I'd just go valorhead magebody and skip the enfeebles if
1) can't land enfeeble or
2) cures are most important

ooooor, if it can't land an enfeeble but I want it to use the other enfeebs, attach a scanner.

[jadecc]

Well ive never really had any major difficulties with soloing and the recast timers. I start off with a dark manny up so the auto blinds the mob then stick up a light manny for cures then an ice manny for nukes and shorter time between spells. Normally though the next spell is dia II thanks to + eva gear, traits and blind you dont get hit that much between spells. Maybe every couple of spells with be a cure III then the rest are nukes. /dnc and /whm help when your auto get a bit thick and casts stupid things at the wrong times.


Ive had more problems in pts with the mage frame than soloing. Equiping a scanner so it doesnt cast same element magic as the mobs i found it just didnt cast at all and just stood there I dont know if it was just the mobs we were fighting but it was rather weird. Though it did start casting Blizzard when the bard got the ice weakening song to stick.

Soloing on pup is super easy, like this guy said above i stack eva gear cuz pup has very very good eva.. 2nd only to thf i think? but anyway
-i start off with 1 dark maneuver, making my auto blind the mob!
after that fuck enfeebles blind is all you need
-i then put up a light maneuver in case my hp gets low~ which triggers flash.. so im not getting hit for a while
auto will then prolly cast dia2 or bio2.. doens't matter cuz i dun need cures yet
-after that i keep 1 dark and 1 light maneuver on for refresh and higher cure trigger

i WOULD put an ice maneuve ron for faster recast but 0 ice maneuver = 1 ice maneuver, it doens't get shorter recast until at least 2 ice maneuvers (using mana booster) just having mana booster equipt reduces recast

as for in a party, if your fighting mobs that are strong against magic, a scanner will usually make your automaton NOT cast. scanner makes your automaton cast whatever magic the mob is weak to, if the mob is not weak to magic.. it wont cast, which is prolly why it casted blizard once you got the ice threnody on it.

[jadecc]

ALSO if the mob is SUPER hard i recomend not letting your automaton engage, until you NEED a cure (just using it as a curebot) keep it by your side with a light maneuver on until your about half hp then deploy and it will cure, force it to cure for those hard mobs when if it casts dia2 or something it could cost your life.

[Darkfalz89]

ALSO if the mob is SUPER hard i recomend not letting your automaton engage, until you NEED a cure (just using it as a curebot) keep it by your side with a light maneuver on until your about half hp then deploy and it will cure, force it to cure for those hard mobs when if it casts dia2 or something it could cost your life.

much thanks for all the tips, good to see the community on here is like the community in the game, i just cant believe that you couldnt find another mmo with such a kind community, ive looked hard and long but its evident its one of the many things that will make me play this game till the servers closed, and keep me coming back every time i quit.