[Ture]

You should drive I-15 between Vegas and Salt Lake City, scariest shit I have ever seen. I was doing 80 and getting passed by everything with a Utah plate.

[Nephlite]

Remember that K-9 is usually an elite (shouldn't use that word, perhaps "specialized" would be a better term?) division of most police departments, some of which don't even have the units. It costs approximately $43,000 to fully train and deploy a K-9 unit (officer and dog). Combined with the need to provide the officer with free vet checks (cause obviously if your dog took a bite out of someone, you'd like him not to become lethargic), regular training classes, and providing the officer with modes of transporting the animal (usually a full sized SUV), AND equipping their own personal vehicles with cages, lights, sirens (at the departments expense) so that the K-9 officer will always have a way to respond to the scene (in my experience, K-9 works regular shifts but are also on call 24/7), and you're looking at spending probably $100,000 to $120,000 for a fully functional K-9 unit, not including the salary of the officer, the dogs salary, and the overtime paid to both when they're responding off duty.

I'm just curious as to how long you are detained till a K-9 unit arives where u live. (anyone)
The city I live in you will be there 10 minutes at the most.
As soon as officer A pulls u over he contacts officer B with the K-9.
Officer B shows up while officer A is running your license.
They talk and if there's no need officer B just chills in the car.
But if you "flex yo rights" officer B starts walking the dog around your car while officer A
Continues with questioning.

Usually for most city municipalities, there's one K-9 on duty per shift (Drug sniffer), and at least five units that work the ERT (Emergency Response Team). Reason being is that you have different dogs for different situations (off the top of my head as I remember them, Attack dogs, Drug dogs (covers the primary opiates, marijuana, meth, and several other variants of chemically produced drugs and several natural variants including Khat and Peyote), Bomb sniffers (pastiques, biological, accelerants, and even some dogs sensitive to certain radioactive agents), Spec dogs (dogs who are trained for only one type of drug) and of course the dogs who are just reliable partners that are so well trained that they can do anything, including detecting the presence of firearms). So like you'll hear with a lot of police procedure, it depends on the situation (in before situational shit is situational, aka the Paladin Forums). Usually i'd say anywhere from 10-15 minutes depending on the code ran (multiple subjects in a vehicle with one officer stopping is considered code 1 or priority lights and sirens). Like I said before, the police can only detain you for a reasonable amount of time as seen by a regular civilian, not the police. 15-20 minutes is usually the norm. 30 mins to an hour? Now you should be thinking about flexing your rights. Ask him why you're being detained and ask him (politely) if there's anything wrong. Depending on the area, the officer is usually required to let you know why you're being detained. If not, then just remember when you asked him and what his response was to your question. It could help you out later.

I think this whole issue with K-9 is pretty much just Cooter not understanding the function of K-9. Like I said before: (Page 17 middle)

Closing your door doesn't do anything. First off, the privacy issue that doesn't allow the police to enter a secured area doesn't apply to vehicles (because they are sitting on public space, and are subject to the plain view doctrine because it has windows). The only thing police can't immediately search inside your vehicle without consent to search is stuff in your trunk, and in your locked glove box. A dogs nose is so sensitive that it has been proven that a K-9 unit can get a hit off of contact alone. What I mean is you touch weed, they can smell it on your fingers. Days can pass and they can still smell it. They can smell through airtight containers, through air freshener, through human body mass, through metal, wood, concrete. There is no way to hide it. If you got it, just a quick pass around the outside of your vehicle will prove it

A recent law passed and changes the scope of this: (Law Enforcement Magazine, August 2009 issue, Page 3, titled "Arizona V. Gant, search of glovebox in vehicles ruled illegal search without reasonable suspicion or warrant, a closer look at Chimel V. California)

Quote:

Respondent Gant was arrested for driving on a suspended license, handcuffed, and locked in a patrol car before officers searched his car and found cocaine in a jacket pocket. The Arizona trial court denied his motion to suppress the evidence, and he was convicted of drug offenses. Reversing, the State Supreme Court distinguished New York v. Belton, 453 U. S. 454--which held that police may search the passenger compartment of a vehicle and any containers therein as a contemporaneous incident of a recent occupant's lawful arrest--on the ground that it concerned the scope of a search incident to arrest but did not answer the question whether officers may conduct such a search once the scene has been secured. Because Chimel v. California, 395 U. S. 752, requires that a search incident to arrest be justified by either the interest in officer safety or the interest in preserving evidence and the circumstances of Gant's arrest implicated neither of those interests, the State Supreme Court found the search unreasonable.

Held: Police may search the passenger compartment of a vehicle incident to a recent occupant's arrest only if it is reasonable to believe that the arrestee might access the vehicle at the time of the search or that the vehicle contains evidence of the offense of arrest. Pp. 5-18.

So unless it can be reasonably articulated that whatever you have in your glove compartment is immediate apparent danger to the officers (i.e. easily accessable) or there's reason to believe evidence is held inside the compartment, the police can't search it. So because of this ruling, you will probably see MORE K-9 on the streets during traffic stops, which means you will see more people having their cars impounded because K-9 produced a positive hit off the drug sniff, and more warrants being issued to search glove compartments and trunks.

[Serataru]

i love the toast song

[Vigilous]

toast =/= love

[Xani]

Vigilous, I am giving you my aluminum - Toast, or I'll bitch about it in threads for months to come.

[Vigilous]

Vigilous, I am giving you my aluminum - Toast, or I'll bitch about it in threads for months to come.

I don't know what this means, but it sounds kinky. And I like kinky. A pliable metal and seared grain product... I'm in!

[Xani]

Read yer sig you fooooooooooool!
And I am hereby withdrawing my "aluminum".