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Pld + Rdm Charybdis Duo

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User is offline   Nulolosolegenda 

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This might be old news, perhaps it's been done many times before, but I've never seen it mentioned anywhere.

Whenever people talk about camping Charby it's the same thing, find a Ninja or thief to tank, a Brd to buff and a Rdm to cure. I know a few jobs can solo it, and Merona was even planning to solo it on Pld. As far as I know they got banned before they could try though.

Reading Merona's blog got me thinking about duoing it, as I still needed this sword.
I don't have anything like the gear they have so I knew soloing it was out of the question, but I started thinking along the lines of how they would solo, and then adapting it for a duo.
It was always going to be a long fight, so doing damage quickly wasn't as important as staying alive. My girlfriends rdm has phalanx2 max meritted so that helped, allowing me to change to blu sub. I wore entirely turtle gear, going for vit and shield skill mainly and eating a taco.
This was what I wore, though I don't think gear is very important for this fight as long as you have something in each slot, and none of this is hard to obtain.

The earrings are Cassie and Suppa, I forgot my +cure earring.
The only gear changes I used were a haste set for reprisal getting the recast down to two minutes, and relic feet for sentinel.

The rdm kept phalanx2, refresh, ballad (she was /brd) and haste on me and enfeebled the mob with slow2, para2, bio2 and blind. I used sentinel on pull as I was in DD gear breaking my great sword of trials.
For the rest of the fight I alternated sentinel>reprisal>reprisal>sentinel. Used rampart once and got beat up for it, I'd forgotten it overwrites Cocoon.

The damage ranged from 0~10 on shield blocks and 60~80 without blocking. TP moves were laughable in general, the worst being a 300 tentacle.



The fight lasted 25 minutes, atonement doing all the damage. I'm fairly sure almost all the TP I got was from shield blocks which adds up quickly. I didn't end up using chivalry, or invincible and was always above 300 MP and half health. The rdm converted twice but was never pushed for MP or timers.



If I was doing this without phalanx2 I would probably sub rdm and add another mage. Phalanx2 stops about a cure2s worth of damage every round, so take that into consideration. It was an easy fight, but intense because of keeping track of buffs. Hopefully this will help other paladins get their swords.
Amazingly we managed to time the fight when we didn't have any tablets, we got the messages during the fight but didn't have the HP/MP refresh one, so if you can fight this before those stop it would be a walk in the park, mp wise.

There's a slightly longer writeup on my livejournal, so feel free to check it out or ask questions. smile.gif

EDIT: LJ is Nulolosolegenda's Livejournal
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Why justice sword if your going to be using shell for aquan killer?
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That's a good question, I didn't think of that when I was reading through it earlier today. Seems kinda pointless without the virtue stones, especially since you're not even getting any mileage from the STR if atonement is the only source of damage. Wouldn't something like a sinfender be better with the setup you've got?

Nevertheless, good job. It looks like fun.
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Huge congrats, that is a really awesome duo, and thank you for posting the information here.

I've often debated attempting a solo PLD/RDM, I doubt that I could win but I'd like to see how well I could fair.
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Hehe, I should have known that would be the first question ^^
Mentioned it on my blog but forgot to here.
I was planning on buying a Durandal for max vit but there were none on the AH, I looked at the sinfender but decided it wasn't worth bothering for an attempt at camping. The only swords I had were Machy and Justice. Decided to go with Justice because no -Acc and I could put on virtue stones if I desperately needed TP for a chivalry.

Would be interesting to see what a well geared/merited pld could do on Charby ^^ 10 minute chivalry would allow mp to stay up, as getting 300%TP happens quickly with that many blocks.

After so many years of being told pld is only good for curing I hope it will make it easier for pld mains to get the sword. It's a lot easier to get a couple of random mage jobs than the normal setup for this (or so I think).
I'm keen to hear others experiences with Charby as pld smile.gif This was my first time seeing the mob lol
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Gratz Nulo, if you'd given me some warning I would have come by and frapsed it for you or something. wink.gif

I've often thought about doing this, but the thought of spending that long trying to pop it just to try isn't appealing at all to me. I had enough of it camping it with Merona when he was going to solo it. Maybe if I get really really bored I'll try it again. How much were you taking per hit btw after Phalanx?
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Wow literally first time I visit this forum in months and I see my name smile.gif

Anyway, it's definitely solo'able with the gear I had. Having experience from VV made me pretty confident in my abilities as well. DR stuff is heavily favored for this type of mob though, but stuff like Defending Ring isn't really in everyone's future. It never really hurts solo'ing either, if for nothing else but the experience.
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Ice shield would help a ton aswell. If any non aegis pld was bored enough to try it.
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User is offline   AsDraBael 

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You could just use some of those pants that give ice spikes between reprisal casts and use a better shield.
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Ice shield and Koneig/Kaiser are practically identical in def/vit. There would really be no reason to use koenig over ice. Unless the thing is immune to paralyze. Which i don't beleive it is.
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Sipar > all!
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User is offline   AsDraBael 

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QUOTE (lolwtfbbq @ May 29 2009, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ice shield and Koneig/Kaiser are practically identical in def/vit. There would really be no reason to use koenig over ice. Unless the thing is immune to paralyze. Which i don't beleive it is.


The thing is, practically identical and identical are 2 different things and the only reason you'd ever wear the thing you don't even need it to get.

The ice spikes is pointless because you can get it better on your pants and it gives 1 less def than other options. That makes it worse.
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Sorry, im leveling PLD now.

What pants are those?
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QUOTE (Dyra @ Jun 7 2009, 03:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, im leveling PLD now.

What pants are those?

http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=15651
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How often did the Bibiki Seashell intimidate rate go off?
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User is offline   AsDraBael 

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The same rate as every other intimidate item in the game.
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I fought it another couple of times and parsed on one, proc rate was .89% (3 times), So don't rely on it for anything tongue.gif
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I tried it a couple times this weekend and wiped both times sad.gif Pld gear is very very similar to yours but i will admit i was two boxing the fight. Both fights resulted in a wipe the best one being at around 40%. I just couldnt keep up with the MP consumption even with 5/5 convert merits. Cocoon and Phal2 but im sure it was dropped a bunch of times.

Im confident that if i had a RDM or PLD/BLU that i wasnt playing there it would of been a win.
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very nice nulolololololololololololololololol

makes me wanna try to soro it
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with aegis and shadow mantle, i should give it a try.
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