[KadajPhD]

I have a lot of equip options but I'm missing a few things that would help my DoT. For one, I have a Bushi over a Suppa, which I'm iffy about switching off because I've a relic GK on the way. I also can't merit Katana any because everything's taken up.

I'm more or less looking for some options on how to get the most out of the job for playing DD at Limbus or Dynamis for a change. Meriting, too. Gets so redundant playing SAM or WAR and I miss playing NIN.

I guess I'll post what I'd be using now for equipment swaps.

TP:
Main: Mamushito +1 (I really need to unlock that Senj)
Sub: Perdu
Ammo: Bomb Core
Head: W.Turban
Neck: Chiv. Sold my PCC when I got Jtorque for SAM, probably shoulda just kept.
Ear1: Ethereal
Ear2: Brutal
Body: Shura Togi / Haub
Hand: Dusk / Bando(?) / Relic @ Night
Ring1: Ulthalam
Ring2: Rajas
Back: Forager's
Waist: Swift
Legs: Byakko's
Feet: Usukane Sune-ate

Jin / Whatever else(?)
Main: Mamushito +1 (I really need to unlock that Senj)
Sub: Perdu
Ammo: Bomb Core
Head: Shura Kabuto
Neck: Chiv.
Ear1: Ethereal (Could change to Bushi?)
Ear2: Brutal
Body: Haub / Osode(?) / Byrnie +1 available from Kaiten setup
Hand: Bando(?) / Relic @ Night / AF+1
Ring1: Ulthalam / Flame(?)
Ring2: Rajas
Back: Forager's
Waist: Warwolf
Legs: Byakko's / Shura Haidate available
Feet: Denali / (Saw thread, relic @ night?)

I've done some switching around here and there trying to find out what works best. I know some of the options I listed aren't really feasible but I figured I'd throw them out there anyway just in case. I'd like to know which of the options I can lock down and which I absolutely have to change. Sorry if this turned into a rate my gear thread, lol.

[Nattack]

you really need to unlock that senji.

bomblet may be a nice investment,

WS: AF+1 hands

Waist: unless you're connecting hits fine life or potent may be better, it all depends though. lack of merits says go with the life/potent. probably life.

the lack of a suppa makes me cringe, and so does amanomurakumo. just because. i never found any DM earring useful except suppa, but im stuck in 2005

i believe Byakkos are fulltime pants except in the case of Hachiryu Haidate, and while using usukane

for jin, i usually swap out to Waetoto's earring in place of ethereal. i dont know if 2 str > 5 atk, but i need to give it meaning :<

breeze gorget

Haub for jin, always haub. but you can maybe use osode for kamu if you ever find a purpose to use it.

edit: OR, if you're packing dagger merits, you can blau/perdu and spam evisceration, i hear that actually works rather well in merpies

[KadajPhD]

the lack of a suppa makes me cringe, and so does amanomurakumo. just because. i never found any DM earring useful except suppa, but im stuck in 2005

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edit: OR, if you're packing dagger merits, you can blau/perdu and spam evisceration, i hear that actually works rather well in merpies

Yeah, back when I got the Bushi SAM was my ONLY job, and I had no intentions of even leveling WAR or NIN. I leveled COR before either of those as well, and my merits ended up going 8/8GK, 8/8Marks, 4/8Sword. I considered switching to Suppa once or twice but I barely dual wield on WAR anymore, and NIN is barely ever played. I'd wanted to try that Evis tactic, probably don't have the acc w/o merits though.

And since my SAM is cursed with missing WS's on 304 skill, I'm not sure I want to lose the 5 skill lol.

[Hyriu]

Fudo and Cuchu

[KadajPhD]

Fudo over Senj then? I remember debating that. I kept the stun one because I typically only used NIN to solo after a while.

Cuch mantle I hadn't considered. Is that a full time piece?

[Ganbaruzo]

super sayan!

[Hyriu]

The difference between Fudo and Senji is extremly minimal, so yeah it's better to use that than a Mamushito

[Konda]

Enkidu mitts are a nice Jin piece, especially if lacking katana merits.

Bomblet, pcc, cuch mantle is 16 acc increase (not including dex) which sould help your DoT a fair bit.

Haub > togi, for the same reason as it is for SAM. AF body is useful when your accuracy is very high.

um, what else....

Breeze gorget, Minuet earring(when have a brd), and a 2nd Acc ring if you're breaking 10TP for 2 hits without rajas.

Basically as much acc as you can without gimping haste for TP, and a healthy mix of acc/atk/str/dex for jin.

And get a fudo till you unlock Senj or something

[Ark33]

You should really think what you want to level/gear ninja for, and if it's worth it for you.

Most players won't consider ninja as an awesome DD, even if it can be, but it really takes lots of dedication to be a good Nin. Considering your limited merit options and your lack of suppa, you won't even come close to your pre Amano Sam or your meritless war, so it sounds like a waste to your group to get a gimp Nin to DD when they could get your pimp Sam or acceptable war.
No matter how good your gear is, you will be stuck from poor to average dd without katana merits and suppa.
I don't wanna sound like an ass, but chances are you'll just make the job looking bad walking around with cool gear while missing at the same time fundamental stuff. People will think "this nin looks cool", then will conclude "this nin blows", then "this pimp nin blows, so nin blows"...

Some jobs can compensate lack of weapon merits by class specific merits... Ninja can't, we only have weapon merits.
Unique mission items gives nice boosts to every jobs, but there are lots of acceptable alternatives for most. However, nothing can replace the awesomeness of suppa for ninja... there is nothing acceptable you could put in this slot.

If the only thing you expect from Nin is to lv a loljob you'll use for shits and giggles, then you're pretty much set with your mamushito and byrnie+1. If you want more, you'll have to make some sacrifices.

I know it may sound harsh, but you're basically saying something like "I'd like to play sam, but I won't be able to get hagun nor 6-Hit setup". What would you say to the guy asking this ? Are you really sure you want to do this to another job ?



Now, Ninja isn't only a DD, it gives other options, but if you're interested in these options, your setup is probably wrong.

[KadajPhD]

You should really think what you want to level/gear ninja for, and if it's worth it for you.

Most players won't consider ninja as an awesome DD, even if it can be, but it really takes lots of dedication to be a good Nin. Considering your limited merit options and your lack of suppa, you won't even come close to your pre Amano Sam or your meritless war, so it sounds like a waste to your group to get a gimp Nin to DD when they could get your pimp Sam or acceptable war.
No matter how good your gear is, you will be stuck from poor to average dd without katana merits and suppa.
I don't wanna sound like an ass, but chances are you'll just make the job looking bad walking around with cool gear while missing at the same time fundamental stuff. People will think "this nin looks cool", then will conclude "this nin blows", then "this pimp nin blows, so nin blows"...

Some jobs can compensate lack of weapon merits by class specific merits... Ninja can't, we only have weapon merits.
Unique mission items gives nice boosts to every jobs, but there are lots of acceptable alternatives for most. However, nothing can replace the awesomeness of suppa for ninja... there is nothing acceptable you could put in this slot.

If the only thing you expect from Nin is to lv a loljob you'll use for shits and giggles, then you're pretty much set with your mamushito and byrnie+1. If you want more, you'll have to make some sacrifices.

I know it may sound harsh, but you're basically saying something like "I'd like to play sam, but I won't be able to get hagun nor 6-Hit setup". What would you say to the guy asking this ? Are you really sure you want to do this to another job ?



Now, Ninja isn't only a DD, it gives other options, but if you're interested in these options, your setup is probably wrong.

Wow, a lot of interesting points here. I appreciate you being honest. Though I think you misunderstood me slightly. I actually have NIN @ 75 lol. There was nothing else I wanted to do back when this static started and my friend was already leveling PLD, so I stuck it out lower level with a lot of elemental wheel and shurikens for a while. Later on I got access to slug shot vs Colibri and marks merits that put me over katana skill at the time, so I actually did really decently for about 5-7 levels. Towards 75 is where I started to taper off.

The analogy with the Hagun and 6-hit, I feel bad now even playing NIN lol.

Quick Edit: As per your last line I may end up doing something different with the job. DD is just because that's where I'd probably get the most chance overall to use it. I'd love pointers on EVA setups as well for lower to equal level mobs, or NMs like Chary and other things I can do.