Poll says it all.
I'm crossing my fingers for some form of large-scale PVP that is optional, but still provides worthwhile rewards to individuals and participating linkshells. To be honest, the lack of PVP was one of FFXI's most glaring omissions in terms of long-term replayability, which it has adequately made up for with an extensive endgame of PVE events, but for which there is truly no replacement.
(Ideally, this would be accomplished while sacrificing none of the variety in PVE events that you see in FFXI.)
PVP lolballista
#3
Posted 02 June 2009 - 04:47 PM
I'm not for open PVP and Ballista has proven to be fail for the player base (although I liked it), so I voted for the large scale thingy.
I'm actually hoping for large scale-cross servers arenas, kinda like WoW's battlegrounds.
I'm actually hoping for large scale-cross servers arenas, kinda like WoW's battlegrounds.
#4
Posted 02 June 2009 - 04:48 PM
From the cinematics taken and a few stills they have on the teaser site, it looks like all of the races from XI are in it. I don't really see how they could make some form of large scale PvP when were all supposed to be on the same side. We could get completely blindsided though and they will have some sort of faction based on races like WoW has for their worldwide PvP system. Doubtful though =/
Edit: Also I voted for Ballista/Brenner types since I don't really see how they would implement worldwide PvP. (Although I would love to see it myself)
Edit: Also I voted for Ballista/Brenner types since I don't really see how they would implement worldwide PvP. (Although I would love to see it myself)
#5
Posted 02 June 2009 - 04:51 PM
I'd quite like to see a Campaign-like PvP. Fight for your country's territory against enemy states (eg. Sandy vs. Bastok) etc.
#6
Posted 02 June 2009 - 04:52 PM
QUOTE (Fendasis)
I don't really see how they could make some form of large scale PvP when were all supposed to be on the same side.
It's not hard to conceptualize. While it's an lol-F2P game, Perfect World is also designed with players all opposing a particular enemy, but it still allows for Open PVP (hard to balance and rife with drama...) and the large scale battles which I reference in my first post. If they wanted to sugar-coat the PVP, they could focus on the "healthy competition among equals" aspect rather than the "I'm gonna gitchoo sucka" mentality--gameplay-wise, there wouldn't be any difference between the two, but it allows for a convenient loophole for the "let's all hold hands and work together" story that Squenix likes so much.
#8
Posted 02 June 2009 - 04:55 PM
I suppose that's true, and trust me. I would love to see it more than you guys really. (TBH i've considered playing WoW again just so I could PvP)
#9
Posted 02 June 2009 - 06:26 PM
Linkshell vs Linkshell would be nice, but I'd prefer to see it in more of an arena than large-scale (nothing like Lineage 2).
#10
Posted 02 June 2009 - 06:32 PM
To be honest I'd really like all of those methods implimented ^^
#11
Posted 02 June 2009 - 06:36 PM
I'm all for battlegrounds, arenas, and the such, but extremely optional and balanced, while still rewarding, although the rewards shouldn't affect the game outside of PvP much. Hence WoW without absurdly powerful equipment sets as rewards.
#12
Posted 02 June 2009 - 06:48 PM
I put down limited, not a huge fan of PVP. In fact I stay away from full PVP games.
#13
Posted 02 June 2009 - 08:10 PM
Put me down for large scale optional, I played Ultima Online when it was You Vs the World....even when your first turned the game on, a ever present set of people sat at character creation points "IN THE TOWN" and murdered you.
Welcome to the game....your dead.
Welcome to the game....your dead.
#14
Posted 02 June 2009 - 08:31 PM
Assuming the majority of the game takes place in virgin territory, it'd be nice to see the original nations making an appearance to battle it out for control the new lands. A reworking of the campaign battle system where you are free to make your own decisions on which areas to attack, etc with actual forts rather than just a brick shithouse with some question marks tacked to the side. The decision making process that was much overlooked in campaign had very little effect on how your nation waged it's war. You could begin to see national linkshells springing up to support this idea and acting effectively as military units on the battlefield with one LS defending a certain zone while another has arranged to attack somewhere else.
The possibility of another "Crystal War" between players is what I'm really hoping will happen.
The possibility of another "Crystal War" between players is what I'm really hoping will happen.
#15
Posted 02 June 2009 - 08:47 PM
I can't imagine them deviating too much from how they've done PvP in XI. I think it's likely they'll have a system similar to WoW, but probably a lot more grind-intensive, and much less rewarding.
#16
Posted 03 June 2009 - 10:24 AM
QUOTE (Kagemitsu @ Jun 2 2009, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm actually hoping for large scale-cross servers arenas, kinda like WoW's battlegrounds. 
ok before u start hating we all know for a fact we always wanted Pvp the first guy that made fun of gear of battle style's
let me put it bluntly
loldnc u cant dd ur meant to main heal only sooo stop trying
Boom now u wanna show this idiot what it means to be a real dnc 1 on 1 right here and now
so i say put both choose 3 and 4 (open battlefields whenever u feel like accept duel match 1 on 1)
And (Large Scale Battles fields for ur Ls and stuff)
sooo plz make it both 8)
#18
Posted 03 June 2009 - 10:50 AM
#19
Posted 03 June 2009 - 10:52 AM
I think it should only be in certain areas. It's a impossible to balance a game according to PVP and PVE. I've played a good amount of MMO's that are both PVE and PVP large scale and small scale. If one class has an advantage, PVPers will bitch and moan so much that all classes get nerfed into oblivion (Warhammer anybody?). Having a game balanced around PVP, ruins PVE.
#20
Posted 03 June 2009 - 09:57 PM
I'm fine with how the pvp is in ffxi and would be happy if it was just the same in the new. But it would be nice if SE would take more a interest in it this time and not let it almost completely die out. Ballista currently can only be found active in a few servers and its only 60 and uncap that happen. Compare how popular it use to be it makes me sad at the state its in D;
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