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FENRIR'S SUMMER BALLISTA TOURNAMENTS!

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Okay folks! For this summer, I am going to be hosting two VERY BIG TOURNAMENTS scheduled for July 23-28 and August 8-20. The first tournament for July will be a 1 VS 1 Tournament and for the second one in August, it will be Linkshell Wars. Winners will get very massive amount of gil!

I decided to do this because I want to bring back the fun in PVP. I moved to Fenrir, the ballista capital since my old server Midgarsormr doesnt do ballista anymore. Anyway, after moving to Fenrir I've seen alot of ballista studs from other servers. So I want to see the ballista masters clash in battle!


Fafnir Ballista Cup

This is the name of for the 1on1 Tournament. It takes place inside the hut of the Diorama. This will also be melee oriented. So that means no RDM BLM & SCH. There can be up to 6 rounds. First person to reach 3 wins moves up the branch for their next opponent. Here are the rules, breaking some of the mid match rules will result in a lose. There will also be a 5k entry fee.

- You can only sign up as one main and one sub job. For example, if I go DRK/SAM, thats my main and sub for the rest of the tournament. Im doing this because I want people to use the jobs they rely most on when its time to show how things are done!
- No food
- No Two Hour Abilities
- NO EXITING THE HUT. Exiting the hut during fight will be a forfeit for all 3 rounds.
- No outside items.
- NO PREBUFFS! This includes casting Ni, wyverns or Seigan/Third Eyes.

Im going to allow running in circles and kiting if you think that helps you win. The fight is located inside the hut so your kiting is limited. Also circle if you want, I know some jobs have a natural advantage when fighting face-to-face such as MNK and PLD. If youre the 1on1 king or queen, you should be able to handle people who do this. The match ups will be seeded and in branch format based on your ballista experience.

Gods of War Ballista Cup
This will be the name for the Linkshell Wars. It will take place in the Diorama. All jobs will be allowed. You cannot have more then one of the same job. There will be 3 rounds, and only one match.Kind of like how Meri ballista is. So make it count. There can be up 12 people in one team but only 6 starters. You can only sub them in between rounds when they end. As for match format, you can only quarry up to 3 petras and there will be one rook. There will also be a 5k entry fee. Here are some of the rules:

- No outside items. Reason being, I dont want this during into gil wars.
- No food during match. *You can only use food before match starts*. Im doing this because I want players to use their survival abilities and to fight smart.
- Vote a team captain.
- Have a name for your team.
- What server will you be representing.

The match ups for linkshells will also be seeded and branched based on the overall ballista experience of your team. I still have to make forums so people can register their team and experience. Anyhow, start meriting or whatever! I will update this every three days or so. Anyway, good luck!
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Good luck.

Record the more interesting parts if you happen to get this off the ground.
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damn son you still play eh?
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stop tempting me to go...
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lol hey DA man. How 'ya been?
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great man. might start playing again now that this shit hole they call RL is back in order, GL with the the tourny i hope you can get some legit people to go
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IN!

I have no ls for ls tourney though ;;

1on1 fersure for me
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QUOTE (Cloudxx @ Jun 21 2009, 03:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
- What server will you be representing.


You're out of your mind if you think groups of 6-12 people will transfer for this.
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huzzah!
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tongue.gif what time zone matches will be? I am EU so I hope they are not prime NA time lol
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what cap? biggrin.gif maybe it's up there and i missed but not sure.
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Okay well, I got already 20+ people for the 1on1 tourny and 6 teams for linkshell wars, so thats good enough not to cancel it, catch my shouts in White gate about this, I usually shout this around NA ballista hours. Oh and this is uncap btw.
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I'm already going to be entering as the most broken job that's allowed, but I suppose this could be considered.

You say that this is a melee based tournament which bars RDM, BLM, and SCH. The problem with this is that it does not bar jobs such as PLD and DRK, both who can deal or heal equivalents in magic ability as the prior three listed. Drain 2, Drain, and Dread Spikes alone deals about 700 damage with just a little luck in about the same amount of total casting time as a BLM. Not to mention both jobs, but mainly DRK who will sub RDM is quite capable of landing all the enfeebs a RDM will cast.

So what this means is that PLD and DRK both have a severe advantage over almost any other job that can enter while jobs like RDM who can do the same thing while playing a melee style are entirely barred. It doesn't make much sense.

Restricting jobs like BLM just promotes people not thinking outside of the box. They're easy to beat in a variety of ways.

And the whole seeding thing for the linkshell wars...Yeah

You already know of my legendary status on Cerberus, I don't think seeding is exactly a good idea but instead brackets should be randomized. I mean, for somebody like me it's quite possible I can solo entire teams if I play my cards right. Also, there should be measures against some people who develop the zerg then hide for an hour strategy. Although valid, you want this to be based on skill not hide and seek. And I'd suggest letting people reuse food between rounds.

No outside items will make some jobs beyond valuable and make some strategies with those jobs completely broken and almost unpreventable.
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pld/rdm atonement hmm...k
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Im not allowing RDM BLM or SCH because most melees who are joining are already bitching that theyre gonna use their typical methods, sleep > nuke > rinse and repeat. I also seriously doubt a PLD/RDM or DRK/RDM is going to win a tournament lol. Besides, youre not allowed to prebuff. Im not aware of anyones status really, if youre really good as you claim to be, there should be no problem of you winning. But im designing match ups in a way where everyone is going to struggle to a point. But also give eveyrone a fair chance to make it to the next round. Im not going to make a MNK vs SAM in the first round lol. Everyone is going to be fighting the same job they apply. Like DRK vs DRK PLD vs PLD, person who beats everyone on the job they come as, goes on to a higher match ups. Then they fight a new job. If im making any sense that is lol. But if not, I'll make it more clear in the future.

Also ya, throw some thoughts at me, if you dont agree with the seeding system. I could perhaps consider the random matchups. Everything isnt finalized yet. I have everyone throwin ideas at me and ya, keep 'em coming.
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Protip: PLD/DNC is an invincible machine. Learn it. Love it. Be afraid of it.
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QUOTE (Tricant @ Jun 23 2009, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Protip: PLD/DNC is an invincible machine. Learn it. Love it. Be afraid of it.

Let me know how the lack of phalanx, dispel, and stoneskin work out for ya.
Take your campaign bullshit elsewhere.
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QUOTE (Tainted @ Jun 23 2009, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm already going to be entering as the most broken job that's allowed, but I suppose this could be considered.

You say that this is a melee based tournament which bars RDM, BLM, and SCH. The problem with this is that it does not bar jobs such as PLD and DRK, both who can deal or heal equivalents in magic ability as the prior three listed. Drain 2, Drain, and Dread Spikes alone deals about 700 damage with just a little luck in about the same amount of total casting time as a BLM. Not to mention both jobs, but mainly DRK who will sub RDM is quite capable of landing all the enfeebs a RDM will cast.

So what this means is that PLD and DRK both have a severe advantage over almost any other job that can enter while jobs like RDM who can do the same thing while playing a melee style are entirely barred. It doesn't make much sense.

Restricting jobs like BLM just promotes people not thinking outside of the box. They're easy to beat in a variety of ways.

And the whole seeding thing for the linkshell wars...Yeah

You already know of my legendary status on Cerberus, I don't think seeding is exactly a good idea but instead brackets should be randomized. I mean, for somebody like me it's quite possible I can solo entire teams if I play my cards right. Also, there should be measures against some people who develop the zerg then hide for an hour strategy. Although valid, you want this to be based on skill not hide and seek. And I'd suggest letting people reuse food between rounds.

No outside items will make some jobs beyond valuable and make some strategies with those jobs completely broken and almost unpreventable.



Just because im not allowing RDM SCH and BLM doesnt mean they cant be beat. I know BLM, RDM and SCH can be easy, its just their methods to win is going to be boring. Plus majority of people dont want those jobs in it.
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QUOTE (Cloudxx @ Jun 23 2009, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just because im not allowing RDM SCH and BLM doesnt mean they cant be beat. I know BLM, RDM and SCH can be easy, its just their methods to win is going to be boring. Plus majority of people dont want those jobs in it.

Sooo you're not allowing those 3 to enter, yet you're allowing the mage class that's just as dangerous (if not, more) than the 3 mentioned?
Winner will either be a PLD, DRK, or BLU (my money's on the BLU if he's not an idiot.)
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QUOTE (Aeonknight @ Jun 23 2009, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sooo you're not allowing those 3 to enter, yet you're allowing the mage class that's just as dangerous (if not, more) than the 3 mentioned?
Winner will either be a PLD, DRK, or BLU (my money's on the BLU if he's not an idiot.)


Like I said, number one, most people dont want them in, and two, I dont want this during into a sleep > nuke thing. A RDM/NIN can melee yeah, but if things get ugly, they can sleep > grav > nuke if they want. Especially the RDMs in this server if they wanted too. So im going with what the people joining want.
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