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Selenian Cap A Moogle Kupo d'Etat Hat + Options.

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meh...




INT+4 MAB+2 only good if you don't have full morrigan's...
Can make a slightly better INT+6 hat... but then can't get the hMP+3...
Don't even start on magic crit... SE is retarded.
Overall pretty unexcited.





Can make a nice blu hat though...
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If I got this right, you can put INT+4 Macc+2 and Magic Crit +10%

Paired with Witch Sash (which every decent BLM should have) and Strap(lol5k) this comes to 15% which is a critical every 6-7 nukes. (+10 MAB)
Rounds up to around 7~ INT for damage, and an extra 2 Macc.

Full Morrigan's, lol, may I ask what you're nuking that morrigan is worth shit ?

Using the hMP as an excuse is pretty low aswell, especially with all the extra inventory that has been introduced.

KI is smart as hell though, so I shouldn't even bother trying here I guess.
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QUOTE (Nerull @ Jun 29 2009, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
meh...




INT+4 MAB+2 only good if you don't have full morrigan's. or maats cap, zenith +1 etc
Can make a slightly better INT+6 hat... but then can't get the hMP+3...
Don't even start on magic crit... SE is retarded.
Overall pretty unexcited.





Can make a nice blu hat though...

<3, I do not know if i should put INT 6 or INT 4 / magic hit rate on you know who though since he dont have maats lol

but then you got cure potency +3....

blu hat hmm....

For me I cant see it outdoing maats for spells, maybe magic though? some use a INT/MND combo though

he does morr set cuz no zenith +1, mix sets are only viable with coming close to that with maats/ zenith / yiget feet, MB, reb circlet, and MAYBE sorcs pants

do you use errent on things nerull !?!?! <3
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QUOTE (Jurojin @ Jun 29 2009, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If I got this right, you can put INT+4 Macc+2 and Magic Crit +10%

Paired with Witch Sash (which every decent BLM should have) and Strap(lol5k) this comes to 15% which is a critical every 6-7 nukes. (+10 MAB)
Rounds up to around 7~ INT for damage, and an extra 2 Macc.

Full Morrigan's, lol, may I ask what you're nuking that morrigan is worth shit ?

Using the hMP as an excuse is pretty low aswell, especially with all the extra inventory that has been introduced.

KI is smart as hell though, so I shouldn't even bother trying here I guess.


No... you don't got this right, if you think a magic crit build is a good idea.
I don't even understand what you're saying. Full morrigan's is shit? I'm dumb because I don't see much to get excited about for a BLM with top of the line gear?
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QUOTE (Nerull @ Jun 29 2009, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No... you don't got this right, if you think a magic crit build is a good idea.
I don't even understand what you're saying. Full morrigan's is shit? I'm dumb because I don't see much to get excited about for a BLM with top of the line gear?

-.- FU!

did not even read mine -.-
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QUOTE (Nerull @ Jun 29 2009, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
INT+4 MAB+2 only good if you don't have full morrigan's...
Can make a slightly better INT+6 hat... but then can't get the hMP+3...
Don't even start on magic crit... SE is retarded.
Overall pretty unexcited.


You need to reread the augments. It's HIT POINTS recovered while healing with Magic Attack Bonus. hMagic Points comes with the Magic Accuracy augment.
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QUOTE (pathwriter @ Jun 29 2009, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You need to reread the augments. It's HIT POINTS recovered while healing with Magic Attack Bonus. hMagic Points comes with the Magic Accuracy augment.


Just saying that I could do INT+6 Magic acc+2 FC+2 for a slightly improved DH+1, or I could do hMP+3 (paired with whatever) for a resting hat, but not both.
Having full Morrigan's, a MAB augment would be useless.
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QUOTE (Nerull @ Jun 29 2009, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just saying that I could do INT+6 Magic acc+2 FC+2 for a slightly improved DH+1, or I could do hMP+3 (paired with whatever) for a resting hat, but not both.
Having full Morrigan's, a MAB augment would be useless.

i find ti useless even without full morrigans......

over time wouldn't 10 mab 10% of the time out do 2 mab?
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QUOTE (rambus @ Jun 29 2009, 09:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i find ti useless even without full morrigans......

over time wouldn't 10 mab 10% of the time out do 2 mab?


10 * 0.10 = 1

2 > 1

lern 2 math

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Really hammers home how blindingly minimal the improvements are, huh?

Would that 10% Magic Critical Hit Rate become more attractive with Witch's Sash (assuming day/weather are not available) and that grip that gives Magic Crit?
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Didn't bother with ACP, dunno if I'll bother with this... Might get it for the hMP since BLM can't get +3 atm, dunno what else I'd put on it though.
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QUOTE (pathwriter @ Jun 29 2009, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really hammers home how blindingly minimal the improvements are, huh?

Would that 10% Magic Critical Hit Rate become more attractive with Witch's Sash (assuming day/weather are not available) and that grip that gives Magic Crit?


Doesn't matter how much you stack, if it's still not better than the other options for those slots.

10 MAB * 0.15 = 1.5 MAB per nuke

Not nearly worth giving up 2 INT and 2 MAB.

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Nerull, you're one ignorant fuck by just ignoring what I read, you didn't understand what I said? I think you don't want to understand.

Morrigan's might be best for flat out damage suuuuuuuuuuuuuure, on flans. But fact is, on any mob that matters, Morrigan's sucks dick, period.


Now to your "maths" -

You're taking just the Magic Crit into account, and disregarding the 4 INT completely, which renders your oh wow hi, 2 INT from your so high praised Morrigan's useless and puts Morrigan's 1 MAB ahead, at the loss of 2 MAcc.

You're like that retard Kerberoz, who thinks Sorcerer's Belt is better than Witch Sash, just cause his sorry ass with underleveld subs can't get any better.
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QUOTE (Jurojin @ Jun 29 2009, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Morrigan's might be best for flat out damage suuuuuuuuuuuuuure, on flans. But fact is, on any mob that matters, Morrigan's sucks dick, period.


What are you talking about? The only time you wil not be using full Morrigan's is if A.) Day is present so you need to use a mixed set, in which case, as Nerull said, this item will barely beat Demon Helm +1. Or, B.) You're fighting a very resistant mob, in which case you will always be wearing Sorcerer's Petasos.
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QUOTE (Jurojin @ Jun 29 2009, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nerull, you're one ignorant fuck by just ignoring what I read, you didn't understand what I said? I think you don't want to understand.

Morrigan's might be best for flat out damage suuuuuuuuuuuuuure, on flans. But fact is, on any mob that matters, Morrigan's sucks dick, period.


Now to your "maths" -

You're taking just the Magic Crit into account, and disregarding the 4 INT completely, which renders your oh wow hi, 2 INT from your so high praised Morrigan's useless and puts Morrigan's 1 MAB ahead, at the loss of 2 MAcc.

You're like that retard Kerberoz, who thinks Sorcerer's Belt is better than Witch Sash, just cause his sorry ass with underleveld subs can't get any better.


Seems like someone can't afford a morrigan's set....

And sorcerer's belt > sash do the math...

About this head. Only worth upgrade seems to be INT+4 and MAB+2 or hMP+3
Actually hMP+3 is the only thing you can't get on any other item.
As for nuking Morrigan's set is still the best but you can now have a mixed set that pushes close to it (1 MAB away)
Selenian Cap (INT+4 MAB+2) Morrigan's Robe and legs, zenith mitts/morrigan's mitts and yigit feet puts you up with INT+25 MAB+14 vs INT+25 MAB+15 (morrigan's set).
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QUOTE (Jurojin @ Jun 29 2009, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nerull, you're one ignorant fuck by just ignoring what I read, you didn't understand what I said? I think you don't want to understand.

Morrigan's might be best for flat out damage suuuuuuuuuuuuuure, on flans. But fact is, on any mob that matters, Morrigan's sucks dick, period.


Now to your "maths" -

You're taking just the Magic Crit into account, and disregarding the 4 INT completely, which renders your oh wow hi, 2 INT from your so high praised Morrigan's useless and puts Morrigan's 1 MAB ahead, at the loss of 2 MAcc.

You're like that retard Kerberoz, who thinks Sorcerer's Belt is better than Witch Sash, just cause his sorry ass with underleveld subs can't get any better.


whoa dude. Who spit in your cereal today? So much senseless malice...

I don't understand what you're saying because you don't make any sense, and you don't seem to know much of anything about what you're talking about.

Full morrigan's is the best nuking gear in plenty of situations >.> Do you do nothing but Tiamat/Khimaira/etc?

I'm not disregarding the 4 INT at all. I have no clue where you're pulling numbers from, seems like you're just making shit up. Morrigan's has INT+4, and so presumably would the Selenian cap, so the comparison in question is a direct 2 MAB vs 10% magic crit rate. and 2 MAB wins.

Sorcerer's Belt, Witch Sash, and Penitent's Rope all have places of usefullness. Stop being so narrow-minded.
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Actually, rethinking... I kinda forgot about day build, could use INT/MAB for that... and I could use it for SCH... but then still can't get hMP... grr
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QUOTE (Nerull @ Jun 29 2009, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, rethinking... I kinda forgot about day build, could use INT/MAB for that... and I could use it for SCH... but then still can't get hMP... grr


Yeh, if only they'd put hMP on both of the mage enhancements instead of that hHP sad.gif
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QUOTE (Nerull @ Jun 29 2009, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
whoa dude. Who spit in your cereal today? So much senseless malice...

I don't understand what you're saying because you don't make any sense, and you don't seem to know much of anything about what you're talking about.

Full morrigan's is the best nuking gear in plenty of situations >.> Do you do nothing but Tiamat/Khimaira/etc?

I'm not disregarding the 4 INT at all. I have know clue where you're pulling numbers from, seems like you're just making shit up. Morrigan's has INT+4, and so presumably would the Selenian cap, so the comparison in question is a direct 2 MAB vs 10% magic crit rate. and 2 MAB wins.

Sorcerer's Belt, Witch Sash, and Penitent's Rope all have places of usefullness. Stop being so narrow-minded.


not if you havt maats, zenth +1 and yiget feet. only 2 pices are worth getting for BLM, 3 for RDM, full for BLU nuke build ..... if you pass the omfg .000000000000000000000000001% drop rate

they are close to being the same and one outdoes the other depning on spell/ int on mob etc, we went though this.

and that is assuming on weaker mobs on thoseyou got day/ circlt / MB set things to narrow off as well

and i may do the 6 int for my alt or give him whm head i really do not know, 6 mnd and 3% potency?

with other poster ya maybe puttings, some sky trigger NMs, limbus, some dyna mobs pure MAB can be used, and ein, miss anything?

now who needs to learn to math biggrin.gif
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To the lady who said I can't afford morrigan's, I probably have more gil and gear than you ever will.

To the people defending morrigan to death, you just keep showing your arrogancy by ignoring what I've said: Morrigan's is SHIT on anything that matters, and no, flans or aerns do not matter.

If you properly gear towards resistant mobs, Sorcerer's petasos is a nice bonus, as long you can't afford or access any non-mediocre gear.

But oh well, what do you expect of the BLMs that live in Mount Zee.

Sorcerer's > Sash, again, maybe on your beloved Flans you don't want to leave, but not on anything that a lv60 BLM can nuke unresisted.


I use max MAB/INT setups on shit like Flans aswell, but that's nothing you really gear for, it's just throw in as much damage as you possibly can (Yes, I have Novio, Ring and all that jazz)
I never said Morrigan can't shine on lolFlans.
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