[Icerat]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. Supreme Court sided Monday with white firefighters in a workplace discrimination lawsuit, a divisive case over the role race should play in job advancement.

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[monstrouswombat]

the term reverse racism makes me want to shake a baby.
It's either racism or it isn't.

[firefeng]

"Congress endeavored to promote equal opportunity in fact, and not simply in form. The damage today's decision does to that objective is untold,"

I am unsurprised that a liberal is using "equal opportunity" interchangeably with "forced equalization".

[pathwriter]

There is no such thing as equality. Moving on.

[motoh]

Sure there is. We are all going to DIE. That's about as fair as they come.

~M

[Wildstriker]

Sure there is. We are all going to DIE. That's about as fair as they come.

~M

Cosign.

[pathwriter]

That's hardly equality. By definition, the time and circumstances in which any given individual is going to die are unequal. It's an inevitability, but the notion of social equality is not premised on inevitability. If it was inevitable, there would be no need to define it, much less try to enforce it.

[Cruzandercerberus]

Ruth Dumbass Ginsberg:
"Congress endeavored to promote equal opportunity in fact, and not simply in form,"

Ginsberg making little sense, as usual. Of course we should disregard what the letter of the law is in favor of a nebulous interpretaiton of the intentions of 100 people...

Also what 'Feng said.

[Serataru]

This goes into effect soon: http://www.hrc.org/10881.htm

HEY GUYZ ARE WE = NOW?

Spoilers: no

[pathwriter]

What goes into effect, Sera? That's from last July.

[Serataru]

They voted on it last year to pass the motion to repeal it, but the actual law doesn't get repealed til this year. You know, the one that prevents HIV positive people from vacationing or immigrating to the USA? That law? yeah.

“Congressional backing for the repeal of this unjust and sweeping policy that deems HIV-positive individuals inadmissible to the United States is a huge step forward for equality,” said Human Rights Campaign President Joe Solmonese. “The HIV travel and immigration ban performs no public health service, is unnecessary and ineffective. We thank our allies on the Hill who fought to end this injustice and now call on President George W. Bush to sign the PEPFAR bill into law and ask Secretary of Health and Human Services Leavitt to remove the remaining regulatory barriers to HIV-positive visitors and immigrants.”

[pathwriter]

Yes, that's nice, but the article I read (caveat: I'm running on low sleep and physical exhaustion, so I could have just missed it) didn't say "This got passed and will be repealed in August 2009," it just said, "This was put before Congress."

[Serataru]

Right, which is why I said it in my post. "This goes into effect soon."

[Cruzandercerberus]

This goes into effect soon: http://www.hrc.org/10881.htm

HEY GUYZ ARE WE = NOW?

Spoilers: no

That's fine, as long as they're tried for murder if they knowingly infect someone with their contaigon.

[Kay]

That's fine, as long as they're tried for murder if they knowingly infect someone with their contaigon.

[Cruzandercerberus]

http://www.finallyequal.com/trailer-flash.html

Nice timing on this one.

[MrReinhardt]

That movie looks interesting, might be worth a look.

cant find a torrent of it though.

[Varizen]

I am unsurprised that a liberal is using "equal opportunity" interchangeably with "forced equalization".

It drives me crazy how politically correct everything is now days. What's worse is all this crap that the supreme court HAS to have another woman on it. I probably won't like who Obama appoints either way, but appointing Sotomayor just because she's a hispanic woman rubs me the wrong way. In this day and age, everyone should have the equal chance to be appointed, but they should be appointed because they are the best possible choice for the job in the eyes of the chooser (in this case Obama.) In the long run, having a diverse decision making body picked solely because they're diverse is less effective than picking people because they're the best person for the job.

I know most people here probably don't like Glen Beck. I question his logic at times too. But one thing he said once really got my attention. In this nation everyone has the basic rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Now. The pursuit of happiness is an interesting way to phrase that. It doesn't mean you are guaranteed happiness. It means you have the right to try to be happy, but if you can't achieve it, then it's your problem. You do not have a guaranteed right to be happy. Only the guaranteed right to make the attempt at doing so. This is all from his Memorial Day show if anyone wants to watch the entire thing. The questions he asks are things to think about, even if you disagree with the audience member's answers.

Which that ties into the whole equality thing in that, as Ono said, equality doesn't truly exist. Everyone gets a shot to try, and no one should be prevented from the attempt to succeed, but by no means is everyone going to succeed. Some people are going to fail... and failure, while frustrating, is a good thing too. You learn from it. I could care less if Sotomayor gets picked or not for the court, but I disagree with her stances on race and crap. Racism goes on against everyone. The unfortunate thing is that for whites it often gets overlooked because as a whole we did it for so long against everyone else. But I disagree with the whole "The sins of the father are the sins of the son" logic. Just because white people 100 years ago were stupid doesn't mean the whites of today all have to be punished for it just because no one of another color met the requirements. Sure, they aren't guaranteed to those promotions, but to be denied the chance isn't right.

I also like this term "reverse racism." It implies only white people can be racist which in turn is racist.

[Twinblades]

I'm all for equal rights and all, but I highly doubt it would work in any system that we know of today.

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The day that stops being funny to me is the day that there is equality in the world.

[pathwriter]

That image no longer being funny will have nothing to do with the absence or presence of equality. It's a historical joke that will be forgotten when the history of it goes away. We might still be hating darkies then, but we'll be making jokes about something else instead. I could find you a lot of images of racial and ethnic jokes from just a century ago that you wouldn't understand at all, yet that is no indicator that prejudice has evaporated.