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So, maybe one of our resident gay guys can tell me what I did wrong here

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Okay, incoming story & bitching:

I'd had a long day so I decided to go to the bar not far from my house and knock back a few. I went on my own 'cause I wasn't really planning on making a night of it, I just wanted to have a few drinks and walk home before the place got too busy.

So anyway, I'm sitting at the bar and this guy walks up, a little skinny guy, looks a few years older than me, and he asks if he can buy me my next drink. I figure he's gay and looking for some company, so I say, as politely as possible, that I'm flattered and everything (and to be honest I was flattered) but I don't swing that way. Now, the guy looks positively unhappy, and I figure he's probably not had the best day either if he's skulking around a bar alone and asking a random guy out in the late afternoon, so I say "How 'bout I buy you one instead, call it a consolation prize" and we laugh and he sits down with me and starts talking.

So he chats on and on about every trouble in the world that ever occurred to him and I do my best to seem interested and sympathetic, and to be honest I did sympathise with the fellow, 'cause it didn't seem he'd been having the best time recently.

But after a while, he starts putting his hand on my leg, and/or leaning in closer to me to whisper and stuff like that. Now, I'm not exactly used to that from either gender, especially not in a public place, and I had made it quite clear that I'm straight, and it was getting kind of uncomfortable. First few times I just push him back a little and let him go on talking, but after a while I stop him and tell him, again as politely as I can, that it's making me a little uncomfortable, and while I'm quite happy to sit there and chat with him, I don't want him groping me.

But apparently, I was wearing a pointed white hood displaying anti-gay propaganda when I said it, because he freaked the hell out. He starts screeching about how I'm a bigot, a homophobe, stuff like that. So I stand up and try to calm him down, I repeat that I have no problem chatting with him, I have nothing against gay people, I would just rather he kept his hands to himself, but he just keeps screeching and yelling at me, so I just say drop it and leave.

So, gay population of FW, can anyone tell me what the fuck I did wrong here? I was nice to the guy, I bought him drinks and I listened to him for the better part of an hour. And those of you who've seen my pics will know, I'm not exactly Brad Pitt, so it's not like I shattered his hopes and dreams or anything. What the fuck was this guy's problem?
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Well, you said he was a little skinny fellow. Was he drunk?
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QUOTE (Arkley @ Jun 29 2009, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay, incoming story & bitching:

I'd had a long day so I decided to go to the bar not far from my house and knock back a few. I went on my own 'cause I wasn't really planning on making a night of it, I just wanted to have a few drinks and walk home before the place got too busy.

So anyway, I'm sitting at the bar and this guy walks up, a little skinny guy, looks a few years older than me, and he asks if he can buy me my next drink. I figure he's gay and looking for some company, so I say, as politely as possible, that I'm flattered and everything (and to be honest I was flattered) but I don't swing that way. Now, the guy looks positively unhappy, and I figure he's probably not had the best day either if he's skulking around a bar alone and asking a random guy out in the late afternoon, so I say "How 'bout I buy you one instead, call it a consolation prize" and we laugh and he sits down with me and starts talking.

So he chats on and on about every trouble in the world that ever occurred to him and I do my best to seem interested and sympathetic, and to be honest I did sympathise with the fellow, 'cause it didn't seem he'd been having the best time recently.

But after a while, he starts putting his hand on my leg, and/or leaning in closer to me to whisper and stuff like that. Now, I'm not exactly used to that from either gender, especially not in a public place, and I had made it quite clear that I'm straight, and it was getting kind of uncomfortable. First few times I just push him back a little and let him go on talking, but after a while I stop him and tell him, again as politely as I can, that it's making me a little uncomfortable, and while I'm quite happy to sit there and chat with him, I don't want him groping me.

But apparently, I was wearing a pointed white hood displaying anti-gay propaganda when I said it, because he freaked the hell out. He starts screeching about how I'm a bigot, a homophobe, stuff like that. So I stand up and try to calm him down, I repeat that I have no problem chatting with him, I have nothing against gay people, I would just rather he kept his hands to himself, but he just keeps screeching and yelling at me, so I just say drop it and leave.

So, gay population of FW, can anyone tell me what the fuck I did wrong here? I was nice to the guy, I bought him drinks and I listened to him for the better part of an hour. And those of you who've seen my pics will know, I'm not exactly Brad Pitt, so it's not like I shattered his hopes and dreams or anything. What the fuck was this guy's problem?


You did nothing wrong, some people, gay or straight, just need to learn when to back the fuck off. He probably was semi-intoxicated and attempting to act on his fantasy of turning a straight guy gay.

By the way, were you in a gay or straight bar? I don't like to be touched by strangers in a bar either, I don't care how hot they are. Playful flirting is one thing, but groping is another. I personally would have told the fairy fudge-packing queen to stick the beer bottle up his ass since that's the only thing from me that would ever be anywhere near it, but then again, that probably would sound a bit homophobic if you aren't gay yourself.

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QUOTE (Kaparu @ Jun 29 2009, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, you said he was a little skinny fellow. Was he drunk?

I'm 5'10 and 120 lbs, and I can drink most of my friends under the table. Then again, my ex is about 5'5 and 120, someone that I'd consider an alcoholic (he has to have beer every night, along with some kind of liquor) and he gets tipsy off like 2 beers.
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You were in the UK at the time, right? I'm going to assume this guy was under 50, too. There's a problem in the UK gay population wherein they literally have nothing but sex on their mind until they're approaching death. It's very strange. The US population is admittedly not a whole lot better, but I've had many UK friends explain to me that the idea of a relationship, even the transient fly-by-night ones so common in the US gay community, is worth less than a flea's fart over there.

Really, though, people take rejection badly. You did what you could to dissuade him, but you really ought to have stopped talking to him immediately. I'd say that was your big mistake and, frankly, it's one I've made with women from time to time. You think, "Ok, I've made it clear I'm not interested, now I can just have a conversation." Bzzt, wrong! There's no such thing as a casual conversation when at least one of the participants is actively attracted to the other and, really, you ought to know that. Next time, turn on your Fuck-off Field and make sure he gets the message. Chatting him up is serious mixed signals, even if you've verbally said, "I'm not gay."

I should probably clarify on that last one. I have friends who have slept with guys using such mind-boggling stupid lines like, "How can you be sure until you've tried?" Men are hunters, predators, and you forgot that. Piss in the corner, mark your territory, and bare your teeth next time.
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QUOTE (Shippou)
He probably was semi-intoxicated and attempting to act on his fantasy of turning a straight guy gay.


I've never understood this mindset. I eventually stopped going to house parties because I was sick of being accosted by the hot chicks' gay friends, and I'm not particularly attractive. (My best friend once told me I looked like the ass-birth offspring of Val Kilmer and Celine Dion...)

I know I don't entertain dreams of turning lesbians straight, and I can't think of any straight man I know thinking like this either, so it can't just be the "unattainable" aspect of mismatched sexualities at play...
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QUOTE (firefeng @ Jun 30 2009, 03:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've never understood this mindset. I eventually stopped going to house parties because I was sick of being accosted by the hot chicks' gay friends, and I'm not particularly attractive. (My best friend once told me I looked like the ass-birth offspring of Val Kilmer and Celine Dion...)

I know I don't entertain dreams of turning lesbians straight, and I can't think of any straight man I know thinking like this either, so it can't just be the "unattainable" aspect of mismatched sexualities at play...

I believe it is of the "unattainable" mindset. People want what they can't have. For some reason, a lot of gay guys act on it, although, I'd guess that's probably due to a lot of "straight" guys willing to fool around with another guy under the guise of intoxication.
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QUOTE (Shippou @ Jun 30 2009, 04:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe it is of the "unattainable" mindset. People want what they can't have.

I thought I made that abundantly clear like 5 threads ago rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE (Villainous @ Jun 30 2009, 06:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought I made that abundantly clear like 5 threads ago rolleyes.gif

Yes, but this is a new thread.
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Wow, scary. Took years for the US to accept homo as a personality and emotional state of being only for this nutcase to prove the "homophobic bigots" right in thinking all gays are after some male ass of any persuasion and to stay the hell away from them for your own safety.
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QUOTE (Deo2 @ Jun 30 2009, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, scary. Took years for the US to accept homo as a personality and emotional state of being only for this nutcase to prove the "homophobic bigots" right in thinking all gays are after some male ass of any persuasion and to stay the hell away from them for your own safety.

Bolded is where you lost.

I guess we should be scared of all 40+ year old guys because they're obviously all old pervs willing to take any willing 16 year old to bed, amirite?
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Maybe he just thought you were playing hard to get?
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Sounds like the guy needs an asswhoopin' tbh
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its just cuz Ark is he-pretty, they all wanna toss cocks up in his guygina
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QUOTE (Arkley @ Jun 30 2009, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay, incoming story & bitching:

I'd had a long day so I decided to go to the bar not far from my house and knock back a few. I went on my own 'cause I wasn't really planning on making a night of it, I just wanted to have a few drinks and walk home before the place got too busy.

So anyway, I'm sitting at the bar and this guy walks up, a little skinny guy, looks a few years older than me, and he asks if he can buy me my next drink. I figure he's gay and looking for some company, so I say, as politely as possible, that I'm flattered and everything (and to be honest I was flattered) but I don't swing that way. Now, the guy looks positively unhappy, and I figure he's probably not had the best day either if he's skulking around a bar alone and asking a random guy out in the late afternoon, so I say "How 'bout I buy you one instead, call it a consolation prize" and we laugh and he sits down with me and starts talking.

So he chats on and on about every trouble in the world that ever occurred to him and I do my best to seem interested and sympathetic, and to be honest I did sympathise with the fellow, 'cause it didn't seem he'd been having the best time recently.

But after a while, he starts putting his hand on my leg, and/or leaning in closer to me to whisper and stuff like that. Now, I'm not exactly used to that from either gender, especially not in a public place,
and I had made it quite clear that I'm straight, and it was getting kind of uncomfortable. First few times I just push him back a little and let him go on talking, but after a while I stop him and tell him, again as politely as I can, that it's making me a little uncomfortable, and while I'm quite happy to sit there and chat with him, I don't want him groping me.

But apparently, I was wearing a pointed white hood displaying anti-gay propaganda when I said it, because he freaked the hell out. He starts screeching about how I'm a bigot, a homophobe, stuff like that. So I stand up and try to calm him down, I repeat that I have no problem chatting with him, I have nothing against gay people, I would just rather he kept his hands to himself, but he just keeps screeching and yelling at me, so I just say drop it and leave.

So, gay population of FW, can anyone tell me what the fuck I did wrong here? I was nice to the guy, I bought him drinks and I listened to him for the better part of an hour. And those of you who've seen my pics will know, I'm not exactly Brad Pitt, so it's not like I shattered his hopes and dreams or anything. What the fuck was this guy's problem?

I think that is pretty much key and like others said there is nothing wrong you did.

people need to respect other people space issues.

btw...

QUOTE (Shippou @ Jun 30 2009, 04:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm 5'10 and 120 lbs, and I can drink most of my friends under the table. Then again, my ex is about 5'5 and 120, someone that I'd consider an alcoholic (he has to have beer every night, along with some kind of liquor) and he gets tipsy off like 2 beers.

FU lol /jealous
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QUOTE (Serataru @ Jun 30 2009, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sounds like the guy needs an asswhoopin' tbh


I really think that is what the guy wanted.. but I would think a pounding would be a more accurate term XD
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QUOTE (Twinblades @ Jul 1 2009, 03:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really think that is what the guy wanted.. but I would think a pounding would be a more accurate term XD


fisting ftw? -.-

sounds kinky.

not my tea though ><
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You bought him a drink. That could have confused the guy, I don't know.
Also, a lesbian friend of mine told me that when she's not in the mood to hook up with someone, she just pretends she's straight when some random girl hits on her. Is that natural for gay people or is it just her?
Anyways, considering he was annoying, stubborn and fucked up at the time, he could have thought you were not in the mood, or that he wasn't your type and that you were giving him a chance to seduce you by knowing him better, however.

I'm not good with this kind of stuff but I think that's...plausible within that twisted mind of his.
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QUOTE (Rhadamantis @ Jul 1 2009, 07:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyways, considering he was annoying, stubborn and fucked up at the time, he could have thought you were not in the mood, or that he wasn't your type and that you were giving him a chance to seduce you by knowing him better, however.



So like, playing hard to get then? huh.gif


Honestly, am I just blissfully unaware here that I'm blisted by the whole of KI?

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Honestly, am I just blissfully unaware here that I'm blisted by the whole of KI?


We're trying to drive you insane.
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