[Blackmoon]

Was wondering since someone found me a Zoraal Ja's Axe.

Shows its not rare/ex at all.

Would it be better for a reward set to have the extra +10% reward on /nin then the extra 5 mind with /whm and pallas shield which is +3.5% reward.

I may have answered my own question, but would it be valid/feasible in any solo situation?

[Kendo]

20% boost or 13.5% boost and 5 extra mnd
hint: 5 mnd comes nowhere close to 6.5%
The double Zoraal jas are win.

[DaEvilOne]

It wouldn't hurt having both readily avaible though, in case you need to go /whm for something. Yeah I figured out one of these sets back when I was big into BST.

[Blackmoon]

was just checking as far as feasibility regarding being actually able to go /nin to solo NM's to make full effect of this vs /whm which is usually taken due to healing factor and extra +chr for charm from sub while soloing.

[spira]

wow.. the reward stuff really stacks out..

Axe x2 : 20%
Ogre Gloves: 10%
Monster Gaiters :20%

thats 50% right there..

and if you're using Zeta assuming a base of 350+60mind, thats what.. 615 HP healed... which is alot..
tho.. i wonder if im calculating this wrong... is the % calculated before or after MND is added?
410 with 43.5% Reward boost is 588 HP.. and if my calculation is correct, 5 MND adds 15HP... which makes 603...

[pathwriter]

Are you guys calculating this right? When I've used Reward on my Beastmaster with any of several subs (White Mage, Dancer, and Thief), the result has been the same unless I equip MND gear (e.g., my Chanter's Staff -- my BST is 50). I don't feel like pulling up a stat calculator and I'm at work, but I would assume there is some variation in my MND stat there. Are you sure that natural MND has any effect whatsoever on Reward?

[Blackmoon]

Pet Food Zeta Biscuit 350 + 3*(MND-45)

just going off hypothetical and guesses as I am not on my character as to spira's math

350 + 3*(67+19-45) = 350 + 3*(41) = 350+123 = 473 base

473 + 50% = 473+236.5 = 709.5
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extra 5mnd = 350 + 3*46 = 350+138 = 488 Base

488 + 50% = 488 + 244 = 732

732-709.5 = 22.5 / 5 = 4.5 hp per mnd added

again just speculations whether mind is added before or after reward % is calculated in.

Granted Xora did a stint about this in another thread according to proper math and the math did not equal out in-game, so still some variation.

Granted this is great, but I still have no answer as to my question

was just checking as far as feasibility regarding being actually able to go /nin to solo NM's to make full effect of this vs /whm which is usually taken due to healing factor and extra +chr for charm from sub while soloing.

[DaEvilOne]

Again I think it depends on the situation. For things like Hakutaku a BST might want to come /whm for Paralyna but then that'd be duoing at the least anyways. That's just one situation, I'm doing an Ohat run later tonight with a couple BST and a SMN buddy or else that situation may not have been brought to my attention.

[Xoraken]

wow.. the reward stuff really stacks out..

Axe x2 : 20%
Ogre Gloves: 10%
Monster Gaiters :20%

thats 50% right there..

and if you're using Zeta assuming a base of 350+60mind, thats what.. 615 HP healed... which is alot..
tho.. i wonder if im calculating this wrong... is the % calculated before or after MND is added?
410 with 43.5% Reward boost is 588 HP.. and if my calculation is correct, 5 MND adds 15HP... which makes 603...

and if you use Ogre Gloves+1 you get 51%


MND69+55 and 41% (=800 hp) , MND69+48 and 44,5% (=808 hp)


now if you want i ll buy another axe and try with MND64+48 and 51% (= idk atm)


my reward set . I do 778 , without food with mnd69+47 and 41%

[Blackmoon]

350 + 3*(64+48-45) = 350+3*(67) = 350+201 = 551

551 + 51% = 551 + 281.01 = 832.01

MND64+48 and 51% (= 832) - if math correct.

[Xoraken]

350 + 3*(64+48-45) = 350+3*(67) = 350+201 = 551

551 + 51% = 551 + 281.01 = 832.01

MND64+48 and 51% (= 832) - if math correct.

now do the same with "MND69+55 and 41% (=800 hp) , MND69+48 and 44,5% (=808 hp)"

1)
350+3× (69+55-45) = 350+3×(79) = 350+ 237 = 587

587 +41% = 587 + 240,67 = 827,67 ( and i have do =>800 hp )

2)
350+3× (69+48-45) = 350+3×(72) = 350 + 216 = 566

566 +44,5% = 566 +251,87 = 817,87 ( and i have do =>808 hp )

[Xoraken]

MND69+55 and 41% (=800 hp) [Muse Tariqah]
MND69+48 and 44,5% (=808 hp) [Pallas' Shield]
MND 62+48 and 51% = 810[Zoraal Ja Axe ×2]

Zoraal Ja Axe ×2 :

MND 62+40 and 51% = 781 hp (without Goblin Mushpot) [math: 786,7]



MND 62+50 and 51% = 816 hp (with Goblin Mushpot) [math :832,01]



so for me: axe ×2:810 > Pallas:808 > Muse Tariqah:800 with the same set

[Blackmoon]

Nice Testing.