[Hoshiku]

Mostly I'd just like to make sure I'm sane. I have terrible luck with parties probably because I can never find the right jobs to make a setup I think is viable and so I just end up flagging up. At any rate, my COR is 56 and I'm playing it as a support role job. I /rng in most parties unless I am asked to pull in which case I /nin and pull with hyoton: ichi. My priorities are rolls on pt > quickdraw > random deal > melee to 110 tp for ranged ws unless i'm pulling in which case pulls goes ahead of rolls. I've never won any parses but I usually do 10-15% of the total dmg in the party depending on how good the DD are. Yesterday I was asked to a party where I was expected to be one of the DD (setup was NIN SAM COR BRD RDM BLM). We were synched to 53 and fighting lesser colibri (it was a terrible idea imo and i would have declined had i known that the leader would ninja a 53 blm into the pt to synch to) so my acc was horrible even with sushi and acc gear. I built tp very slowly and the pt complained that I wasn't ranged attacking often enough and that I wasn't doing enough damage. Is this a realistic expectation or was my party crazy?

[pathwriter]

Everything about that party sounds wrong.

[Arkley]

They were complaining you weren't ranged attacking enough because you weren't ranged attacking enough. Melee TPing pre-Joyeuse is terribly inefficient. You should deal damage at those levels (unless your party is desperate for a little extra healing, and it seems this one wasn't), but you should do it by standing back and firing away.

[Cruxus]

For one thing over camping on birds while on cor, yeah your accuracy in both ranged and melee dmg is going to be severely gimped, mainly attributed to the fact that SE didn't give COR an A~A+ in any weapon. As to your question, personally when I was leveling COR I was the type to gain TP by blasting off bullets (granted I would take breaks between leveling sessions and craft/farm gil to buy more), so I can see why people would think you're not firing off enough bullets. But I wouldn't worry about it too much, the way I see COR is a supportive job that has the access to dish out some dmg to help the group. If you're keeping a consistent 4 rolls up (2 frontline and 2 backline) and pulling and putting forth some dmg, you're doing fine.

[Antithesis]

1-22: Grab a sword and DD.

23-38: Use your Gun

38-75: It's all pseudo-merit parties at this point. Break out the Melee weapons and go to town.

Once you hit 38 and start doing East Ronfaure [S] parties, Shooting just starts loosing its luster. Sure, Trump Gun's lower delay means you can pump more lead during those levels but its moot in my opinion. COR/DNC does a stupendious job at East Ronfaure [S] parties.

Once you get to ToAU its at your discretion. If your over-camping I guess you could shoot for TP but then you are probably not in a good party anyway. You can start those pseudo-merit parties as early as level 57. As a bonus, having an Mkris at those lower levels makes Wajoam Woodlands parties go by at an incredible pace (Your Slugs now deal respectable damage.)

[Velhart]

I'm glad I leveled Corsair when it first came out and no one knew what to do with it, saved me alot of bullets, since i'm a cheap ass.

[Hoshiku]

lol i guess i was just surprised to be invited to a party in one of the main two DD spots. but like people said it was a pretty awful party ^^;; most people invite me for support and pulling and whatever damage i can get in between.

[Deo2]

Lesser colibri is more of a 55 camp. Hitting stuff that's 8-10 levels higher than you is easier than trying for 10-12 regardless of melee, ranged, or nuking.

[Spider-Dan]

1-22: Grab a sword and DD.

23-71: Use your Gun

72-75: It's all pseudo-merit parties at this point. Break out the Melee weapons and go to town.

Fixed.

[Banggugyangu]

Albeit, I'm yet to reach this point on my COR, as I'm currently farming to afford everything, but last I had read, M.kris melee was acceptable and welcome from 50-70 until one can weild joytoy. I may have been misinformed, and please correct me if so, but that is my current understanding. I'm also of the understanding that no M.kris or joytoy = shoot for TP.

[Arkley]

Just to clear this all up:

Gun 'till Joyeuse. You can make a case for M.Kris in the mid levels and by all means; if you have one and you're not hitting for zero, go for it. Once you reach 70+, M.Kris or Joyeuse (preferably the latter) is the way to go. If you have neither, you can make do with a high-end dagger, although whether it's actually better than shooting at that level is debatable.

[legen-unicorn]

unless things have changed in the last year, cor was a beast when it came to DD at those lvls. with /rng you can get +8
more marksmanship with the belt and earring, plus you do get some pretty decent gear too. I might have had a
different experiance considering my rng was at 75 well before i did cor so my marks had 5 merits in marks too and i was able to slug shot by lvl 53 even with shitty C+ marks skill cor gets. Regardless, quick draw can tac on a nice 200-300 damage every 2 mins or so and if your damage is really that bad, eating sushi wont hit the wallet too hard and it will allow for more ws's.

Be sure to get a rng and drk in your party with birds for best damage/acc rolls til you merit when sam and war rolls are king. Also you may need to tweak your gear if you'v mainly been pulling/supporting because those roles dont really force you to get good gear since some partys may not have relied on your damage potential.

The pieces to have at around 56 (dont flame me if im off a little cuz i have been away for about a year now) are: archers knife x1 (cuz /rng), whichever gun is +1 at that lvl or if shark is 55 (might be 60), emp hairpin, LL boots, jeridah (or w/e) pants, noct +1 gloves (or i used hume rse gloves if hume), marks belt, +3 marks skill earring, +3 agi earring (forgot names), pcc/pca (cant think of other neck gear atm cuz i used pcc), and for an awesome addition get the lvl 50 body from CoP gear quest for cor/rng (if not jeridah body or rk gambison i think its called).

Rock those out with some cards and bullets and you'll be amazed at how much dmg you do, but prepare yourself to buy tons of bullets cuz you wont do shit meleeing for tp. I personally DD'd my rng all the way through lvl 75 and still did in merits with my brd friend pulling.

If you really gear and push yourself to DD (and if you do need to pull you can still use the same gear with speed+ items if you have them) you will do massive damage in merits. I do emphasize merits cuz outside of quick draws you really can only do so much endgame damage if any at all, but with a brd, war, and sam in a merit you can get tp faster than a sam. For those who think im full of shit test it out with a joy/trailers cor/rng with sam and war rolls up. You get a 24% tp return from your ws and will land 3 hits per round nearly 100% of time hitting fast as shit (assuming you dont pary with retards).

Anyway this is getting long and the game may have changed alot so cors could suck as far as DD go. This is also a HUGE btw as far as my post is concerned but by no means is supporting with rolls left out of a cors job cuz thats the #1 priority. Just throwing it out there since i didnt mention that with pulling, DD'ing etc, its just assumed whatever you are doing to make sure rolls are up cuz they factor alot into YOUR damage as well as your parties.

*holy shit, didnt realize exactly how long this was til i submitted it and saw the actual post, sorry.**

[Arkley]

There is so much wrong with the above post that I'm just going to assume you're a troll for the sake of my faith in those that play this job.

Mind you, the general gist of it is in the right place. Shoot dem bulletz.

[legen-unicorn]

First off, like i said iv been away from the game for a while so some things may be a bit off. However where in the post does it seem like im trolling? Cor is capable of good damage if you dont have to pull even when you have to roll every couple minutes. I like making the most out of a job, and having a support job dish out considerable damage is a welcome addition to any party, just not alot of people want to take it that far, especially when they dont have to.

Like i said tho, the game could have changed esp with the level sync system i only so briefly used around when i quit. Just point out what you dont agree with in a respectful matter and i can either tell you my personal reasoning for this, or can clarify if it doesnt make sense sincei was just typing quickly.

[Antithesis]

Fixed.

Don't know about you, but when I partied at the Wajoam Woodlands Birds and Bees camp (By the Subterranean entrance) the Dragoons and Samurais were killing shit so quick I barely had time to shoot for TP.

[Katchoo]

Spider-Dan fixed the first part of your post thank god.

Once you hit 38 and start doing East Ronfaure [S] parties, Shooting just starts loosing its luster. Sure, Trump Gun's lower delay means you can pump more lead during those levels but its moot in my opinion. COR/DNC does a stupendious job at East Ronfaure [S] parties.

The problem with the whole "melee for tp" is not only pre Joytoy but also pre Slugshot, due to the fact that all our other WS SUCK! So you want to melee for crappy dmg to do a crappy WS? TWO ranged attacks will do more dmg than ONE crappy WS at those lvls.

I will say i do agree with COR/DNC. I use this alot now. Infact i want to try it out on RNG/DNC for 30-40 lvl exp range.

EDIT:

[Don't know about you, but when I partied at the Wajoam Woodlands Birds and Bees camp (By the Subterranean entrance) the Dragoons and Samurais were killing shit so quick I barely had time to shoot for TP.

Ok i can see this coming a mile away. This is where the debate of whether or not you need to DD in that situation and is /whm instead ....... but we have done that like a million times now in this forum

[Gyth]

I will say i do agree with COR/DNC.

So melee as cor/dnc is ok, so the party can get sambas?
Or still shoot for tp and just waltz?

[Katchoo]

So melee as cor/dnc is ok, so the party can get sambas?
Or still shoot for tp and just waltz?

Sorry i should have been more specific in my post.

I use COR/DNC alot in all the usual thing like besieged and Campaign but also more recently testing in Nyzul & non cap BCNM event/missions. As im 75 im usually Joytoy tp but i have also been playing around with Peacemaker spam with steel bullets, interesting so far.

As for exp, well i would say shoot for tp and use waltz when needed .... but hey go try it yourself.

[Antithesis]

Spider-Dan fixed the first part of your post thank god.





The problem with the whole "melee for tp" is not only pre Joytoy but also pre Slugshot, due to the fact that all our other WS SUCK! So you want to melee for crappy dmg to do a crappy WS? TWO ranged attacks will do more dmg than ONE crappy WS at those lvls.

I will say i do agree with COR/DNC. I use this alot now. Infact i want to try it out on RNG/DNC for 30-40 lvl exp range.

EDIT:




Ok i can see this coming a mile away. This is where the debate of whether or not you need to DD in that situation and is /whm instead ....... but we have done that like a million times now in this forum

If your not in a fast moving party that cannot attain and keep a chain beyond Chain #5 then shooting is down right superior. In the faster moving, merit party-style parties, Meleeing becomes effective. Quite honestly, you can still shoot for TP in the fast moving parties and most likely do better overall DoT because Corsair's are gifted with Trump Gun and other, various low delay Guns.

Addressing the second part of your post: That is entirely up to the player. I personally feel a 700 ~ 1,000 Slug Shot on a Lesser ( Colibri ) is nothing to scoff at. And yes, COR/DNC is great in parties without a PL.

EDIT: The part that Spider-Dan fixed. This applies to the East Ronfaure [S] party only. Once you hit 38 and beyond, subbing /DNC provides great support. You hardly ever get hate on the birds. Your buffs keep your DD strong and Drain Samba and Curing Waltz help you support heal. Once you hit 40, Blinking Quick Draw lets you pull birds at a good pace and deal some damage. COR/DNC is king at the East Ronfaure [S] parties in my opinion. If your partying somewhere else, than Spider-Dans correction is quite accurate. I apologize for not clearing that up.

[Katchoo]

Addressing the second part of your post: That is entirely up to the player. I personally feel a 700 ~ 1,000 Slug Shot on a Lesser ( Colibri ) is nothing to scoff at. And yes, COR/DNC is great in parties without a PL

you seemed to have missed that part where i said PRE SLUGSHOT