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Fane Baselard

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QUOTE (Nudecke @ Jul 26 2009, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It procs 100% of the time and probably averages close to 5-7 dmg per hit which is equal to adding 5-7 base damage on the weapon almost.

LOL

Oh man, I'd take the time to explain how wrong this is on several levels, but I need to stop laughing first.
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You know math path, 1 base damage adds 1 damage to your overall per hit on a melee strike. Adding 1 dmg from an add effect does the exact same thing on a melee strike per hit.
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QUOTE (Nudecke @ Jul 26 2009, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know math path, 1 base damage adds 1 damage to your overall per hit on a melee strike. Adding 1 dmg from an add effect does the exact same thing on a melee strike per hit.


Except base damage is dependent on attack. Sure, on average 1 base dmg is going to be 1 more dmg per strike, however on crits it'll be 2 damage on average and depending on the exact attack ratio it could be closer to 1.5 damage per strike. While the comparison used is good for loose guestimations it's not too accurate.
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Exactly, thats why its not EXACTLY the same as adding damage to your weapon. But in most cases where you arent near capped attack, it'll be similar to adding that damage. Of course, it doesnt effect critical damage, and it varies per strike as well. Hell, at lower pdif ranges, 1 dmg doesn't even add a whole damage per hit but at higher pdif, it adds more. In a lot of cases though, they equal out to being similar in the overall aspect though and thats all I was saying.
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Even a nq jambiya is better if you ask me, dmg-wise. But really there are alot of daggers that make this one look a tad gimp at 75. Depends what you're looking for I guess, the triple attack +1 seems OK.
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We're not asking you because you're clearly not paying attention. Jambiya is 33 DMG with 201 delay. Fane Baselard is 32-33 DMG (with a +5/+6 DMG mod) with a 186 delay which is already better than Jambiya before we talk about those sexy mods it might have going on (+ accuracy + 3A)
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NQ Jambiya is shite compared to this. Also I don't think I've seen 5-7 dmg on my S.kukri except on really weak or earth based stuff. From a merits perspective the wind dmg is mediocre since it really doesn't proc on G.Colibri and it heals puks (and on windsday gives them 100tp each time you hit). I'd agree it does more dmg on lower level stuff, and also on lower level stuff the increases to your fStr, which do more for weapons of lower base damage, is nice for s kukri.
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hmm didn't think of it that way, guess this dagger could be useful. But I still like the idea of azoth and blau more, but good choice for users who can't afford the two.
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Azoth's DPS is only 10.00, so 33 DMG 186 Delay already kills Azoth in terms of DPS, nevermind potential acc+ and TA+ which are both very nice boosts to have. I can't talk about stuff like I know what I'm talking about (THF boards get reeeaaally mathy) but I can definitely say I'd sell an Azoth if I had one and try to augment one of these.
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Hmmm... I was under the impression that Azoth was the PIMP SHIT... for DNC rolleyes.gif . We get better options from a DD perspective.

Either way, Fane has a lot to offer someone without a perfect combo already, which seems to be what SE was going for. The bow is actually fairly awesome... I'd take it over Selene's, but not my Vali's, for example. Same with this, I'll play with augmenting it and see if I can't get something awesome or situational, but by and large I doubt it'll sway me from X's/Blau.
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Still one of the two best evasion daggers THF can use.


Don't be hate'n.
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I prefer mah Ermine's/Adder. I'm going to augment my adder but I'm willing to bet it's going to be shite. I wouldn't be surprised though if +eva could be augmented onto it.
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touché @ Evasion! happy.gif
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So

SO

If i never use my thf but i got good equip and in those few times i want to do also some decent dmg but also i don't want to spend alot

is that dagger worth the try augmentin for some potential acc+8 triple etc.? I just have TK and Sirocco Kukri currently.


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For the time and effort you could put into getting a Fane Baselard with a viable combination of augments, you could probably just as readily acquire a Jambiya and be done with it.
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QUOTE (Matsuo @ Jul 27 2009, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol @ Evasion! happy.gif


Fixed.
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QUOTE (Matsuo @ Jul 27 2009, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm... I was under the impression that Azoth was the PIMP SHIT... for DNC rolleyes.gif . We get better options from a DD perspective.


This isn't the DNC forum (although your comments about fane being good for those without a decent combo are good)


QUOTE (nefarious.lover @ Jul 27 2009, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still one of the two best evasion daggers THF can use.


Don't be hate'n.


Why are you pimping out evasion on your daggers? There's every other slot that isn't essential to damage you can use first, no?

QUOTE (Deemos @ Jul 28 2009, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
is that dagger worth the try augmentin for some potential acc+8 triple etc.? I just have TK and Sirocco Kukri currently.


You only have TK and SK? Fuck off and come back when you've read the stickies.

QUOTE (treelo @ Jul 28 2009, 01:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Matsuo @ Jul 27 2009, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

lol @ Evasion! happy.cunt


Fixed.


Correct.
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QUOTE (BuGGaTon @ Jul 28 2009, 04:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You only have TK and SK? Fuck off and come back when you've read the stickies.


Hey Better than Jesus, i read KI for the past, and i've posted on this board alot before, but since ive been out on the thf scene so much due to well, obvious reasons, i just asked if a dagger DMG:32 Delay:186 Accuracy+8~10 and Triple Atk 1~3% would be a good main hand to SK. Just when TH isn't needed, which is rare. Like i don't know which are the best combos such as X's/Blau - Blau/SK. So, keep the "fuck off" to your kiddy mouth. You aren't Treelo hah.

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QUOTE (BuGGaTon @ Jul 27 2009, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why are you pimping out evasion on your daggers? There's every other slot that isn't essential to damage you can use first, no?


Back with a vengeance after your hiatus?



If you really need to question the value in 14 points of evasion and deliberately slowing down how often you're hitting the mob via higher delay (hi2u mob TP gain)... I'll refrain, wholesale, from discussing THF solo with you. I have every other slot maxed out short of the fact that I'm still slowly creeping into Sea for my Boxer's. What would you like me to do? Merit Eva and Agi? Already did it. When second best isn't nearly good enough, you go balls to the wall every point available in every slot available.

Oh also, there's a nice little sort by DPS function on Wiki.

Try it sometime.

Every slot is critical to your damage output, you'd think that the guy who wrote the stickied gear guide would know that.


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