[Romaniaa]

Hey, I just recently hit 75 on my warrior, first one on this character, and I am really in the dark about what merits I should get, and the order in which I should get them, I was wondering if anyone had some tips on what i should choose. I plan on using my warrior plenty so this is where i wanna put the merits into. Anyway thanks for your time.

[Saxonian]

5da, 5berserk, 5warriors charge, 5tomahawk, 5str, 8great axe, 4critical hit rate+ aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamd use the search function

[Ture]

what sax said but I would go in order: G.axe skill,DA,Zerk,crit hit, str, WC, maybe 1-2 tomahawk.

[Romaniaa]

Cool thanks

[byte.xi]

5da, 5berserk, 5warriors charge, 5tomahawk, 5str, 8great axe, 4critical hit rate+ aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamd use the search function

8/8 Great Axe > 4/4 Crit > 5/5 Berserk > 5/5 DA > 5/5 Warrior's Charge > 5/5 STR > 5/5 Tomahawk

In the most time efficient order for meritting.

Put at least 1 into Warrior's Charge and 1 into Tomahawk as early as possible. Don't merit aggressor.

[Darkseth]

i wouldnt do 5/5 berserk, because i always sue berserk and aggressor together. so i kept them 3/5 both, and 4/5 DA then :/

[Saxonian]

i wouldnt do 5/5 berserk, because i always sue berserk and aggressor together. so i kept them 3/5 both, and 4/5 DA then :/

3/3/4 is fine till you get some decent gear, but most the time if you're on war, you shouldn't need aggressor

[Darkseth]

http://ffxigear.com/?ref=16425
that looks like far above decent but like i said, i just personally like to use Bergressor Together, thats why i chosed 3/3/4

[Saxonian]

http://ffxigear.com/?ref=16425
that looks like far above decent but like i said, i just personally like to use Bergressor Together, thats why i chosed 3/3/4

Great Axe ->

Also. Just wondering, should you take the Man/Rid route, isn't it better to go 5zerk/5aggressor?

[Marcicus]

Yes, you should. And there is nothing wrong with going with the 4/3/3 DA/Zerk/Aggressor route if having staggered timers drive you insane. I know it does for me.

[byte.xi]

http://ffxigear.com/?ref=16425
that looks like far above decent but like i said, i just personally like to use Bergressor Together, thats why i chosed 3/3/4

Noooo don't use Rajas for TPing in with One-Handers ; ;


Ok and just to clear something up and why Berserk 5/5 is the way to go regardless:
Berserk gives +25% Attack
Aggressor gives +25 Acc (A static amount)

Making Berserk merits far more potent.

What I've done to save space on my macros is pair up Aggressor with Warcry for now, since they share the same timer. When I cap Warrior's Charge I'm going to pair Warcry with WC (Since they're both really WS JAs on a 5min timer).


I'm thinking about making a program that will say in big text when I need to use ability (the recast is up) and using different colours for Berserk, Aggressor, etc. I've seen something similar in WoW and I feel it could be pretty useful. The one colour, same position text of recast can be quite a pain in the ass to look at and figure out which abilities are in there and which ones are actually not up. Especially when you have used 2hr, or subbing /SAM.

Great Axe ->

Also. Just wondering, should you take the Man/Rid route, isn't it better to go 5zerk/5aggressor?

I'm not sure about this. I know for a fact that 3/3/4 is inferior to 5/5 even for Dual Wield (But by signifiantly less.) 25 acc (only some of the time) vs 5 DA is another issue. DA cancels itself out on Ridill pretty much because it takes away 3 hits, turning them into 2 hits but it turns 1 hits into 2 hits as well. It could proc on the Axe and during WS though which is what makes it useful.

[Saxonian]

Noooo don't use Rajas for TPing in with One-Handers ; ;

I'm thinking about making a program that will say in big text when I need to use ability (the recast is up) and using different colours for Berserk, Aggressor, etc. I've seen something similar in WoW and I feel it could be pretty useful. The one colour, same position text of recast can be quite a pain in the ass to look at and figure out which abilities are in there and which ones are actually not up. Especially when you have used 2hr, or subbing /SAM.

I think there was some maths done that shows Rajas is as good as a nq acc ring or something whilst dual wielding.

And recast isn't enough?

[byte.xi]

I think there was some maths done that shows Rajas is as good as a nq acc ring or something whilst dual wielding.

And recast isn't enough?

5 DEX = 2.5acc
5 STR = 2.5atk

2.5acc * 0.55 = +1.375%
2.5atk * 0.2 = +0.5%
Total = +1.875% damage


5acc = 5acc

5acc * 0.55 = +2.75%
Total = +2.75% damage

1.875% vs 2.75%

I say not. (ps. I don't know how much 5 DEX factors into crit rate but I seriously, seriously doubt it's more than almost 1% of dot worth)


And no, it's not I want something to scream at me and tell me it NEEDS berserk up RIGHT NOW.

[Saxonian]

5 DEX = 2.5acc
5 STR = 2.5atk

2.5acc * 0.55 = +1.375%
2.5atk * 0.2 = +0.5%
Total = +1.875% damage


5acc = 5acc

5acc * 0.55 = +2.75%
Total = +2.75% damage

1.875% vs 2.75%

I say not. (ps. I don't know how much 5DEX factors into crit rate but I seriously, seriously doubt it's more than almost 1% of dot worth)


And no, it's not I want something to scream and me and tell me it NEEDS berserk up RIGHT NOW.

You're ignoring sTP.

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Maybe not, all I see is random numbers when looking at those calculations.

[byte.xi]

You're ignoring sTP.

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Maybe not, all I see is random numbers when looking at those calculations.

I'm too dumb to work that out for DW . And I got those numbers from Allakhazam, so don't blame me if they're wrong. Yeah, yeah lolallah.. but tbh there really isn't anywhere else with an active WAR forum.

If BG had job forums, the world would be a better place. But hell, they don't even have standard anymore.

[Saxonian]

I'm too dumb to work that out for DW . And I got those numbers from Allakhazam, so don't blame me if they're wrong. Yeah, yeah lolallah.. but tbh there really isn't anywhere else with an active WAR forum.

If BG had job forums, the world would be a better place. But hell, they don't even have standard anymore.

I told you I TP in 2 acc rings on my Pld, and used to when Dual Wielding Joyeuse wasn't retarded, but there was some bs on BG about Rajas=Snipers for Mnk/War/Thf using 1h weapons so w/e.

[Byrthnoth]

Rajas is as good as an Acc+5 ring on a 1H melee because it adds a base damage with the Acc, Atk, and sometimes significant STP (less often for 1H merees.) lolSTRmereeing

As someone who used their WAR only for meritting, I'd like to express my support for 5/5 Berserk + 5/5 DA merits. It's not entirely accurate to say +25% Attack beats +25 Accuracy, as that's not what people compare. It's 5/5 DA vs. 5/5 Aggressor (or some bastardization where they sacrifice Berserk merits because they're retarded/like their timers to line up/generally both). I'm not a fan of 3/3/4. Pick two and go with it. QQ about the higher merit cost while you do more damage.

Maf about 5 DA vs. 5/5 Aggressor (+25 Acc for 3/4:10 vs. 3/5min)
Assumptions: Pole Grip, Brutal Earring, 10% base DA rate

Condition: Hit rate of 82.5%
DA 5/5:
(HR: 82.5%) * 1.22 = 1.0065 Hits per swing

Aggressor 5/5
( (HR: 95%) * 1.17 )*180 sec/250 sec + ( (HR: 82.5%) * 1.17 )*70 sec/250 sec = 1.07055 Hits per swing


So if accuracy is low enough that all of Aggressor's 25 Accuracy is needed, it will outdo 5/5 DA pretty significantly. Obviously, when it is not needed then the 25 Accuracy will be wasted and 5/5 DA will be preferable. Time to find the balance point.

Condition: 5/5 DA = 5/5 Aggressor
[ ( (HR: 95%)*1.17)*180 + ( (HR: ??%)*1.17)*70 ] / 250 sec = (HR: ??%)*1.22
HR: ??% = 85.83% Hit rate

Things that can skew this and the direction they'd skew it:
1) Using Warrior's Charge would skew this in favor of Aggressor (the amount would depend on your haste amount, probably not much)
2) Having more accuracy during WS would skew this towards DA (could be pretty significant)
3) Having less accuracy during WS would skew this towards Aggressor (could be pretty significant <,<)
4) Being a 1Her would reduce #2/3 to not very significant changes and would generally favor Aggressor because of multi-hit weapons.
5) Not being on-time with JA usage would skew this towards DA (could be a lot)
6) "Saving" Aggressor for high-evasion monsters (would pretty much destroy the JA's advantage.)
7) Swapping excess accuracy gear for Atk gear when you use Aggressor (would favor Aggressor.)

You can make a pretty powerful argument for Aggressor 5/5, but if I had accuracy that low in the TP faze I'd either be adjusting my gear or considering sushi and adjusting it the other way.

[Dartalion]

if all i ever did was merit, I'd probably go with the 5/5 da 5/5 berserk route. But since my war is used on a lot of high lvl stuff where I can't naturally cap acc. Well I have 4 da, 3bergressor merits and it works just fine.

honestly both set ups are good, war is so ridiculously broken with gaxe merits lol

[TigerWolf]

Hey everyone,

Ive been meritting WAR a bit recently and was wondering if Savagery is any good. Right now I have:

8 GA, 4 Eva, 4 Crits, 5 DA, 3 Berserk, 2 Agressor. Im not entirely sure what to do with my Group 2 merits. I was thinking 5 WC, and not sure what to do with the other 5. Is savagery worth meritting or is it crap? Should I go 5 Tomahawk?

[Corrderio]

For Group 2 I'd go...

5/5 Warrior's Charge
4/5 Savagrey
1/5 Tomahawk