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Fay Gendawa+augments vs. Vali's Bow & Selene's Bow

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Is an augmented fay gendawa better than a vali or selene's bow?

here are the stats and augments:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Fay_Gendawa
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the values for STR+, Rng Attack+, Rng Delay and Ws Dmg would have to be near max. It makes it a contender for sure but E/Vbow has 490 Delay which is a deal breaker.


On a side note. I have been seeing Augmented Haguns. Which makes me wonder if I can augment my Euryto's Bow.
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Is it even worth augmenting? I was thinking the weapon skill acc! 15 might be nice for NMs.
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I have no intention of replacing my Vali's Bow, but if I lacked it, I would seriously be trying to get a Fay Gendawa with STR, Ranged Attack, and Weaponskill Damage. Ranged Accuracy/Weaponskill Accuracy is pleasant, but I can get that in a lot of other places without much trouble. I'd sooner throw on a Behemoth Ring and forgo a Flame Ring in favor of WS Damage.
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Easier 5 hits build for fay gendawa if you have it. I got +4str/+12ratt/4%ws damage from vunkrel the other night. All you need is 32 store tp to get 5 hits with it too, /sam 15, rajas 5, hachi legs+feet 5, mekki 5, and with rose strap 4. With 34stp, 4 of your hits will give 81.2tp which will let you use another feet instead of hachi feet for WS. Can always use brutal earring and cobra feet for +5stp on the feet part too. This would be another set up for ppl who hate salvage like me and will never get skadi legs (or doesn't have it).
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I'd also like to see an augmented e-bow but I'm kind of chicken to do it until I understand the system better. I'm pretty sure it's possible to do so though since it does have a level and is not rare/ex.
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By augmenting gear doesnt it turn rare/ex? It'll be kinda scary to get the wrong augment, and at the same time lose all value on the weapon you have...
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Looking at the Wiki page, probably the best place to augment the Gendawa is Xarcabard [S].

If you get lucky, probably the best augments are (assuming you can have 3 max like the other augments so far):
Delay -8% (Brings it down to 496 delay)
STR+4
Ranged Attack +16

OR

Delay -8%
Ranged Attack +16
Weaponskill damage +3%
This bow is probably best for those that can't obtain a Vali's/Eurytos' and/or Selene's Bow. However, this alone probably beats Selene's, since that bow is just too random.

I already have Vali's Bow, so going to be so hard to let go of it. XD

490 delay is so, so nice along with Ranged Attack+23.

However, just keep this in mind as mentioned by someone on BG Forums (given current prices on my server):
You will most likely have spent close to, if not equivalent to, the price of a Eurytos' Bow (or Hagun) if you continue to attempt getting the better augments. That is IF you cannot craft/obtain the craft materials for free.
So far, I'm going for Fay lance and Dweomer knife. If I can get DMG+5 or DMG+6 on Fay lance, that'll be great.
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yeah augmented gear turns aug/ex and it's a one time shot. that being said there are a couple ranger pieces that you could gamble with I guess (rings, back, staff, bow, earrings). it would definitely be a lot of gil lost if you get a bad augment but it looks like you have the chance of getting +str... probably still better off spamming ACP missions for earrings.
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wouldn't 72 dmng, delay -8%, str+5, and ratt+19 be better than e/v.bow though? i mean...that does increase weapon rank by 1, and it's more str than v.bow, w/ 4 less ratt and no 3 agi/racc, w/ like...6 more delay?

i think this bow has the potential to be beter. marginally, but still better :/
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QUOTE (Sephie @ Jul 29 2009, 05:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wouldn't 72 dmng, delay -8%, str+5, and ratt+19 be better than e/v.bow though? i mean...that does increase weapon rank by 1, and it's more str than v.bow, w/ 4 less ratt and no 3 agi/racc, w/ like...6 more delay?

i think this bow has the potential to be beter. marginally, but still better :/


I would love to see a comparison test between Vali's/Eurytos' and Fay Gendawa; see which parses better over a short or long period of time.

If I wasn't trying to augment Fay lance and Dweomer knife, I'd do Gendawa but I'll probably do that after I'm done with lance and knife.

If one can get the max -8% delay, that's 6 away from Vali's/Eurytos', but you lose the Accuracy and 4 R.Atk. In return, you gain STR+4 (max) and WS damage +3%.
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how easy is it to get max stats?
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It's not easy at all. You will probably spend a lot of money just trying to get at least one of the stats maxed.
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QUOTE (octoberasian @ Jul 29 2009, 06:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not easy at all. You will probably spend a lot of money just trying to get at least one of the stats maxed.


All the gil u spend on Fey gendawas u could save for an Ebow, and all the time u spend trying to get maxed stats u could be spending camping Vbow biggrin.gif.
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QUOTE (Greeber @ Jul 30 2009, 07:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All the gil u spend on Fey gendawas u could save for an Ebow, and all the time u spend trying to get maxed stats u could be spending camping Vbow biggrin.gif .


Yup, I mentioned similar in a previous post.

However, it'd be nice to try it and test this bow out even if can't get the maxed stats. Fay gendawas are now down to 70k on my server and you can get a chance on lotting on them in Union-- for free.
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Yea ive made a couple of them. The Synth mats arent even hard to get with all the blu's farming for spells lol.
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I was able to do this



With this



Any questions?
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"Hay gaiz i did a lot of damage to mobs with no defenses whatsoever!!!!"

Provide damage screenshots on a regular mob, even Greater Colibri are sufficient, but using those mobs is no different than referring to Boreal Hound.
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QUOTE (pathwriter @ Aug 3 2009, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Hay gaiz i did a lot of damage to mobs with no defenses whatsoever!!!!"

Provide damage screenshots on a regular mob, even Greater Colibri are sufficient, but using those mobs is no different than referring to Boreal Hound.


Why do I have to show any dmg on Greater Colibris or such with proofs. Why dont your smart ass go and fight Riko as RNG/WAR with your V/Ebow and see how much dmg you do on them henchan moogle smile.gif compare then.. all it says on the topic is Gendawa+augments vs. Vali's Bow & Selene, I showed proof it does a lot of dmg, even against defenseless mobs. When you take in the factor that blm TIV's averages around 4.5-5k. Now its your turn to show proof with your bow.
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QUOTE (Imola @ Aug 3 2009, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why do I have to show any dmg on Greater Colibris or such with proofs. Why dont your smart ass go and fight Riko as RNG/WAR with your V/Ebow and see how much dmg you do on them henchan moogle smile.gif compare then.. all it says on the topic is Gendawa+augments vs. Vali's Bow & Selene, I showed proof it does a lot of dmg, even against defenseless mobs. When you take in the factor that blm TIV's averages around 4.5-5k. Now its your turn to show proof with your bow.



Epic response. Lol
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