My friend unclegreen managed to augment his Erkling's Kheten with stats that rival perdu voulge yesterday. Thought I'd share it with you guys on the war forums.
Erlking's Kheten's base stats are DMG 91 Delay: 504
The augments were DMG+5 STR+5 Darkness Damage+10
vs
Perdu Voulge's DMG91 Delay: 504
Latent DMG+5 acc+5 attk+10
I had it in my mind to say perdu still won due to the accuracy but the thing is he has the new head with acc+24
This brings us to STR+5(atk+4) vs atk +10
And its a pretty easy decision from there even excluding the darkness damage.
Add. info: The great axe got its augments from the @ grauberg S version of the fight.
Perdu Killer? My friend and his Erkling's Kheten
#2
Posted 26 July 2009 - 01:18 PM
Don't see how you just automatically eliminate the acc from Perdu. You won't be using expansion head while tp'ing. 5 str vs 5 acc, excluding the attack, is the equivalent of tp'ing in a flame ring instead of a sniper.
#3
Posted 26 July 2009 - 02:00 PM
While it is pretty good I'd still use Perdu for the accuracy.
#5
Posted 26 July 2009 - 04:19 PM
Perdu latent is active below 100 tp and on ws, if you get an erkling kheton with even some acc or atk in addition to the dmg+ it would be possible to win out over all compared to perdu, right?
Has anyone else tried augmenting the Erkling Kheton yet? I just got one and havent had the chance to do the quest yet.
Has anyone else tried augmenting the Erkling Kheton yet? I just got one and havent had the chance to do the quest yet.
#6
Posted 27 July 2009 - 04:59 AM
The depressing thing about this Great Axe is.. despite the countless other unused (on good endgame weps) models, they chose to use Byakko's Axe again.
#7
Posted 27 July 2009 - 11:34 AM
^ first thing I saw.
ffffffffffffffffffff byakko's axe model
ffffffffffffffffffff byakko's axe model
#8
Posted 27 July 2009 - 04:15 PM
Good point forgot to take perdu's acc into consideration for tping, though i doubt career wars need much acc to tp in with 8/8 GA and AH gear.
http://ninjafada.com/ffxi/
Furthermore, This showed us the augment weapons have the potential to beat some of the commonly considered 2nd-best to relic weapons that aren't that rare, like drks.
Scythe version of that would beat perdu sickle since god knows we don't need anymore acc.
http://ninjafada.com/ffxi/
Furthermore, This showed us the augment weapons have the potential to beat some of the commonly considered 2nd-best to relic weapons that aren't that rare, like drks.
Scythe version of that would beat perdu sickle since god knows we don't need anymore acc.
#9
Posted 27 July 2009 - 05:34 PM
What's wrong with the Kheten model? At least it's not another Butterfly Axe.
Only other choices would be the Bhuj and the Voulge, as the Amood was not introduced in that time period since Aht Urghan did not participate in the war.
We could also kinda dismiss the Voulge, since it was designed by the Tavnazians, and they're sorta cut off from us after San d'Oria abandoned them in their battle against the Orcs.
Now, the Bhuj... well, SE probably wants to limit the number of weapons that look like Relics. If they had recolored it, well... they'd have to recolor all their new fairy weapons.
Edit: Most of this is just speculation, and then there's the argument of the Pup Sainti and the Cor Hexagun, and I'll just fall back on them being weapons introduced by those job classes like the Dnc Jambiya. The Blm Scythe is a mystery.
Only other choices would be the Bhuj and the Voulge, as the Amood was not introduced in that time period since Aht Urghan did not participate in the war.
We could also kinda dismiss the Voulge, since it was designed by the Tavnazians, and they're sorta cut off from us after San d'Oria abandoned them in their battle against the Orcs.
Now, the Bhuj... well, SE probably wants to limit the number of weapons that look like Relics. If they had recolored it, well... they'd have to recolor all their new fairy weapons.
Edit: Most of this is just speculation, and then there's the argument of the Pup Sainti and the Cor Hexagun, and I'll just fall back on them being weapons introduced by those job classes like the Dnc Jambiya. The Blm Scythe is a mystery.
#10
Posted 28 July 2009 - 08:31 PM
I am disappointed in the model for the axe too, they could have at least re-colored it.
#12
Posted 31 July 2009 - 05:51 AM
Sparth model brand new to the past it's badass looking, why the hell not use that? If nothing else if they were going to use Byakko's model why couldn't they at least recolor it.
#13
Posted 31 July 2009 - 06:22 AM
Oh yeah I forgot about that model. Yeah that's pretty badass to.
Sucks I can't get Balestarius, that'd be a fapworthy peice for WAR in campaign paired with that one physical damage ring.
Sucks I can't get Balestarius, that'd be a fapworthy peice for WAR in campaign paired with that one physical damage ring.
#14
Posted 31 July 2009 - 10:10 PM
Is it just me or no one noticed that GA can get double attack+2 w/ other stat? It'd be great for TPing and burn mobs out. (Sorry if I did something to make them piss off. I just reached 70WAR and trying to figure out. =P
EDIT:
There is,
EDIT:
There is,
#15
Posted 01 August 2009 - 08:39 AM
Double attack is nice, anyone else have augment pics?
#16
Posted 01 August 2009 - 10:11 AM
There are a lot of augment screenshots in BG forum.
#17
Posted 02 August 2009 - 05:00 PM
Did the fight on grauberg, got dmg+3 str+3 and atk+7, which would make it better than my byakko axe (yeah i know.. but i dont have high enough rank for perdu), But I declined, only +3 dmg is still weak, would atleast want +5 or +6 dmg
over all this seems to have good possibilities as an axe to take over byakko's, and possibly perdu if you dont want to or cant rank up in assault. Besides its not like we're lacking for acc gear options.
over all this seems to have good possibilities as an axe to take over byakko's, and possibly perdu if you dont want to or cant rank up in assault. Besides its not like we're lacking for acc gear options.
#18
Posted 07 August 2009 - 08:33 PM
How would DMG6 STR5 (or Attack+7) DA+2 sit vs Perdu?
I'm working on it but I'm stuck with 4DMG 5STR 1DA
I'm working on it but I'm stuck with 4DMG 5STR 1DA
#19
Posted 08 August 2009 - 09:06 AM
I think it would over-all beat a perdu, if you had both the str and the atk then for sure yes, you'd just be -5 acc but thats ok.
And it also beats perdu if you melee above 100 tp, and come on, who always ws's at 100 tp? Sometimes you do a swing or two more, or build up more than 100 tp. In these situations it really beats perdu.
And it also beats perdu if you melee above 100 tp, and come on, who always ws's at 100 tp? Sometimes you do a swing or two more, or build up more than 100 tp. In these situations it really beats perdu.
#20
Posted 14 August 2009 - 11:19 AM
QUOTE (ironwall @ Aug 8 2009, 02:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How would DMG6 STR5 (or Attack+7) DA+2 sit vs Perdu?
I'm working on it but I'm stuck with 4DMG 5STR 1DA
I'm working on it but I'm stuck with 4DMG 5STR 1DA
Just sorta guessimating the math it'd be very close to Perdu if not beat it (definitely would beat Perdu if you were acc capped.)
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