[Demireamer]

so i get a tell from a level 26 smn the other day asking what the most importan stat for smn is, i tell him Hmp and he calls me a noob -.-

got me to think and i haven't seen many smn with a hmp set more then a dark staff.
now i dotn have the best hmp set, http://ffxigear.com/?ref=20036 this set dosnt take in to effect the club giving more then 210 mp for a 75 smn resting 3 ticks before food.
atm i have +32 186 in 3 ticks
the mp cost of merit bp is 182 MP
a smn with just a datk staff as a hmp set will get 120 mp

now i know how much i love smn skill, but 30 skill over cap is all you realy need for the BP:W, and having a max out set for BP:R (and the few other BP:W i never use) seem to be less important then having high Hmp set so i can keep up with job that don't have a huge MP drain problem


thats my rant

edit: i made a mistake on the rings moving to quick and not reading.

[AphriniTheGreat]

you are absolutely correct, not any of my summoners mind you I have always put emphasis on HMP gear especially in a smn pt as it can make all the difference. It goes back to the fact that honestly in my opinion most summoners don't know how to play the job...sadly.

[Meian]

Full Yigit is good and easy to get for those slots (hmp + refresh) as well as other cheap items like Hier. Belt etc.

[spira]

at Lv 26 definitely since theres nothing else you can really stack and gear up on...

even at later levels all SMN should carry around a decent set of hMP.

in fact by lv75 if you do not have at least a hMP of the following items (or equivalents per piece or by amount) i'd say you're pretty gimp.

- Dark Staff (10)
- Errant Hppl. (5)
- Hierarch Belt (2)
- Grandiose Chain (2)

and thats really just for a decent set.

if you really cant afford to cram equipment pieces in due to macroing or whatever (i personally macro a max of 5 slots for anything lol), invest in some Ginger Cookies, they're +5 hMP and insanely cheap. and if you're cheap too, Dream Hat +1 can make up for that. No excuse really.

[Demireamer]

at Lv 26 definitely since theres nothing else you can really stack and gear up on...

even at later levels all SMN should carry around a decent set of hMP.

in fact by lv75 if you do not have at least a hMP of the following items (or equivalents per piece or by amount) i'd say you're pretty gimp.

- Dark Staff (10)
- Errant Hppl. (5)
- Hierarch Belt (2)
- Grandiose Chain (2)

and thats really just for a decent set.

if you really cant afford to cram equipment pieces in due to macroing or whatever (i personally macro a max of 5 slots for anything lol), invest in some Ginger Cookies, they're +5 hMP and insanely cheap. and if you're cheap too, Dream Hat +1 can make up for that. No excuse really.

i personly use a 2 macros for my /heal

/Release
/equip body "Yinyang Robe"
/equip neck "Beak Necklace +1"
/equip feet "Avocat Pigaches"
/equip ear1 "Relaxing Earring"
/macro set 1

/equip main "Dark Staff"
/equip body "Oracle's Robe"
/equip legs "Baron's Slops"
/equip head "Cobra Hat"
/equip hands "Oracle's Gloves"
/heal

my Invigorating Cape and Qiqirn Sash +1 i dont take off cuz ATM i have nothing better

[DarkRift]

my hmp set...

http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=32186


needs more work, but it works.

[soulet]

he calls me a noob -.-

lol /comfort.
I once asked for Corsairs roll I got called a noob & among other things.
Better to just ignore /random tells in your case me thinks ~.^

[DarkRift]

a new summoner called me a newb when I told him austere was awesome. Besides the body piece he said the rest was worthless.

[rambus]

a new summoner called me a newb when I told him austere was awesome. Besides the body piece he said the rest was worthless.

it is once you get evoker horn?

OP rings, those only work in garrsion?

[Griss]

yes they only work in garrison

[DarkRift]

it is once you get evoker horn?

OP rings, those only work in garrsion?

The real answer is you need both.... Also if his smn magic skill is under the cap, then evoker's horn wont do a whole lot for you.

Austere gear has BP reduction timer, and a good summoner would have both and macro them to gain full benefits.

[Demireamer]

it is once you get evoker horn?

OP rings, those only work in garrsion?

ops fixed the op cuz of my mistake on the rings


as for what you think on Austere/Penance

the sooner you arble to get the 30 skill over cap the better. and not many options for you BP:w macros the horn is only +3/+2 smn skill bring you to a max of 19over @ lv 60

+ the glove and hat have BP delay- on them so i think very useful to a smn

[Agena]

Maximum MP and MP While healing in as many spaces and as high as can be. Forget MND.

Also eat good food. I see alot of lazy Mage jobs that don't eat anything.

[DarkRift]

coffee cake muffins !


also...

I remember looooooonggggg time ago... 2004/5 I thought our stats helped our avatars... so i wore INT rings ... LOL Not many people knew much about avatars at that time, and this was a common thing for people to do if I remember correctly... (at least the newbies)

[soulet]

coffee cake muffins !


also...

I remember looooooonggggg time ago... 2004/5 I thought our stats helped our avatars... so i wore INT rings ... LOL Not many people knew much about avatars at that time, and this was a common thing for people to do if I remember correctly... (at least the newbies)

It's still sad really. We're the only job in FFXI that never has any use for em stats.
Why high CHR & INT though idk.

[Icerat]

I always heard /BLM with +INT gear was great for SMN too, of course this was all 2005ish like DarkRift said.

My SMN is now level 23 and I just got Carby Mitts and I got Fenrir last night. I have the 6 regular avatars too but have to wait on Diablos until I get further in COP. It's nice to see some info to help me out like this. I have a few of those items already from my WHM so it won't cost me much to get the rest so I can really benefit from hMP.

Sorry if this is off topic but what do you guys think the pros and cons are to getting the elemental spirit packs?

[Acturus]

At the least, a SMN should be able to buy:

Dark/Pluto's Staff
Beak Necklace +1
Antivenom Earring
Invig. Cape
Qiqirn Sash +1

All before level 65.

[Meian]

Sorry if this is off topic but what do you guys think the pros and cons are to getting the elemental spirit packs?

No con. Elemental Siphon too good.

[Icerat]

No con. Elemental Siphon too good.

So before 50 not much use but after that make sure I have them?

[Forgotten_Memory]

coffee cake muffins !


also...

I remember looooooonggggg time ago... 2004/5 I thought our stats helped our avatars... so i wore INT rings ... LOL Not many people knew much about avatars at that time, and this was a common thing for people to do if I remember correctly... (at least the newbies)

Why coffee cake muffins? You stress HMP but don't use wizard cookie or equivalent for hmp? It will do more than max mp off those.