[Aosi]

So after a PLD hiatus, I'm back to getting to raid PLD alot more frequently now. With the new addition of the expansion pieces, I've been trying to max out my macros with enmity+ gear.

At the risk of being a blinking character, I was wondering what you guys usually macro for your JA and Cures.

My "idle" setup looks like this:

Main-Joy
Sub-Terror
Ammo-Lamia
Head-Walhara
Neck-Ritter
Ear-Loq&Knight's
Body-Nuevo
Hands-Homam
Rings-Herc&Sattva
Back-Shadow
Waist-Swift
Legs-Homam
Feet-IR

Available swaps:
Head-Valor +1/Galea (+5 FC)/Ageish
Ear-Ethereal/Titans/Hospitaler
Body-Valor
Hands-Valor+ +1
Back-Toreador's
Waist-Warwolf
Legs-Valor
Feet-Valor

So that's everything I carry on me, I had my Cures and JAs setup to swap in enm+, cure potency, and "Enhances (JA)" stuff, then a home macro to swap back all of my idle stuff. Do alot of you have a similar setup? Or is this just excessive?

Also, I've been trying to find out the benefits of Galea over Turban for casting/recast, can anyone shed some advice on this too?

Thank you guys!

[Saxonian]

Galea at beginning of casts, haste at the end.

If you don't use complex windower macros, or better yet spellcast, idle in the Galea and swap to turban/enmity head during cast.

[FurionStormRage]

At the risk of being a blinking character, I was wondering what you guys usually macro for your JA and Cures.

There is no reason to not blink anymore, except laziness, go crazy with your macros and make your mages start using <stal> macros.

[Sakka_Valefor]

Nitpicking a slight bit:

Feet: Use Dusk/Homam/Aurum for the idle build.

Body: Change from Neuvo to Haubergeon, if you're atonement idling. (Assuming you are)

Neck: ACC neck piece

Back: Shadow Mantle is useless without shadows. Cerb Mantle/Cuchu/Amemet+1/Whatever is better, with shadows up.

Rings: Change herc/sattva to Accuracy rings (Or even ACC/Blitz)

Earrings: Loquac/Ethereal. Knight's earring (Shield Skill+5?) is useless if you have shadows up.

And as furion said previously, don't be afraid to blink. If a mage can't cure you if you're blinking then they shouldn't be on a mage. <stal>/<stpt> are nice, and I'm willing to bet a good portion of the mage population uses BlinkMeNot.

[Cyprias]

Nitpicking a slight bit:

Feet: Use Dusk/Homam/Aurum for the idle build.

Body: Change from Neuvo to Haubergeon, if you're atonement idling. (Assuming you are)

Neck: ACC neck piece

Back: Shadow Mantle is useless without shadows. Cerb Mantle/Cuchu/Amemet+1/Whatever is better, with shadows up.

Rings: Change herc/sattva to Accuracy rings (Or even ACC/Blitz)

Earrings: Loquac/Ethereal. Knight's earring (Shield Skill+5?) is useless if you have shadows up.

And as furion said previously, don't be afraid to blink. If a mage can't cure you if you're blinking then they shouldn't be on a mage. <stal>/<stpt> are nice, and I'm willing to bet a good portion of the mage population uses BlinkMeNot.

Been reading up on PLD lately to level it, but.. why is Shadow mantle useless without shadows?

Sorry if it's a dumb question, I just don't exactly understand it well.

[Saxonian]

Probably means with shadows.

[Sakka_Valefor]

Saxonian, on 01 September 2009 - 05:03 PM, said:

Probably means with shadows.

This ^

And, in general, Boxer's Mantle will do more than Shadow Mantle, just from eyeballing different events (Limbus, Dynamis, Campaign, whatever)

[Hyriu]

Sakka_Valefor, on 03 September 2009 - 05:25 PM, said:

eyeballing

Sakka_Valefor, on 03 September 2009 - 05:25 PM, said:

eyeballing

Sakka_Valefor, on 03 September 2009 - 05:25 PM, said:

eyeballing

[JackalTheManCat]

eyeballing is a totally legit way to measure these things. trust me

[Dartalion]

JackalTheManCat, on 08 September 2009 - 12:41 PM, said:

eyeballing is a totally legit way to measure these things. trust me

haha only idle in mantle when /nin on mobs who frequently aoe and have nasty tp moves (saved my butt on khim a few times)

[Hitoseijuro]

Dartalion, on 16 September 2009 - 05:12 AM, said:

haha only idle in mantle when /nin on mobs who frequently aoe and have nasty tp moves (saved my butt on khim a few times)

Im curious as to which magic tp move of Khims did the mantle save you from.....(other than lolgaybillion( its physical))

[FurionStormRage]

Hitoseijuro, on 23 September 2009 - 09:25 AM, said:

Im curious as to which magic tp move of Khims did the mantle save you from.....(other than lolgaybillion( its physical))

The mantle is physical damage. The ring is magic damage.

[Hitoseijuro]

FurionStormRage, on 24 September 2009 - 12:21 AM, said:

The mantle is physical damage. The ring is magic damage.

Did you not understand my post?

[FurionStormRage]

Hitoseijuro, on 26 September 2009 - 06:47 AM, said:

Did you not understand my post?

I'd think that my reply would make it pretty obvious that I did indeed misread what you previously posted. Noted.

[Hitoseijuro]

FurionStormRage, on 26 September 2009 - 09:36 AM, said:

I'd think that my reply would make it pretty obvious that I did indeed misread what you previously posted. Noted.

I was just saying because I dont see that helping much on Khims AoE moves as they are magic based, cept for tourbillion, but that move isnt nasty compared to the others, as khim could miss a hit or 2 or all of them. Knock back isnt an issue because theres spots that nullify that. I can see the mantle obviously helping once you got hit with his AoE magic moves as youre stunned w/o shadows on some. Sorry for any confusion.

[Dartalion]

dread storm > getting hit a few times, mantle proc etc since I believe you can't shield block while terrored etc (if i'm wrong i'm wrong). its actually proc'd for me quite a few times in this scenerio, and since dd'ing khim gives minimal returns (no excal) I usually don't go full dd mode and just spam cure cheats, and concentrate on my damage reduction set up.

khim is the exception for this. Once the bloody dlord drops my shadow ring i'd fulltime that too on khim (of course with appropriate swaps for cure cheats, ja's, flash etc)

[Saxonian]

Dartalion, on 29 September 2009 - 07:31 AM, said:

khim is the exception for this. Once the bloody dlord drops my shadow ring i'd fulltime that too on khim (of course with appropriate swaps for cure cheats, ja's, flash etc)

Full Time =/= Idle

[Dartalion]

fine sorry, jesus internet police etc etc

[Hitoseijuro]

Dartalion, on 29 September 2009 - 07:31 AM, said:

dread storm > getting hit a few times, mantle proc etc since I believe you can't shield block while terrored etc (if i'm wrong i'm wrong). its actually proc'd for me quite a few times in this scenerio, and since dd'ing khim gives minimal returns (no excal) I usually don't go full dd mode and just spam cure cheats, and concentrate on my damage reduction set up.

khim is the exception for this. Once the bloody dlord drops my shadow ring i'd fulltime that too on khim (of course with appropriate swaps for cure cheats, ja's, flash etc)

Thats my point in questioning your use of the mantle for idle. As was pointed out by Sakka , the mantle is useless outside of when your shadows are down. Thats why I brought up the point of using the mantle, Its not going to protect you against Dread storm. The hits you take after that when your shadows are down, is when you pop that mantle on. As most HNM plds have a terror macro, and if they have that mantle, its what goes in the terror macro.

DD is pretty effective against khim, I dont believe Ive seen any 0s on khim, and rarely miss as much. 300+ Atonements is very welcomed when you are low manning it with a small group. Yes his TP wipe move sucks, but Ive done enough ws on him and have seen other plds put out enough ws to be satisfied with DDing khim. His TP moves arent instant. If you have enough time to press a macro and stun his TP moves, you have enough time to press a macro and reduce the damage you take. You can DD khim and still be able to reduce the damage you take.

[JackalTheManCat]

I specifically have a terror set that i hit when i'm stunned or petrified or whatever and unable to block/utsu/cure. I mean why not put on all that stuff if all you're going to do is get hit.

I wouldn't idle in shadow mantle though, unless i was subbing drk or rdm for stuff.