[Chriscoffey]

I say we all wear askar body to TP in at 60% accuracy and down with the republic. I actually agree with Kap but its both and it's called using common sense on what mob you are fighting to make the best of any gear set. I think it's stupid to say one set fits all. I think one could also argue accuracy vs haste on mamool which are the bastards of the accuracy world though. I mean comparing a mage mamool to a thief mamool is a bit stupid but it's all relative to each mob and what acc/haste set you have for that said mob. I think anyone who can read should be able to find the correlation between what their haste and accuracy are for each mob. The net has plenty of info about finding monsters stats pretty precisely as well as many calculators out there to get a very close estimate. I mean you can parse all you want but it will vary to some varying degree everytime but they give a very close proximate build to go by.

[Rikkitikkitavi]

Cool story.

Why do we care about the mythical "best" drk gear? None of you are ever going to have every piece.

/crushes dreams.

[Hitoseijuro]

Meh, I dont see any of it out of anyone's reach outside of AV items. And surprisingly as madawc pointed out, after seeing what the best piece/setup is, its not so hard for people to work around that build and make their own similiar to it within their own obtainable boundaries.

[Saxonian]

Rikkitikkitavi, on 04 November 2009 - 05:53 PM, said:

Cool story.

Why do we care about the mythical "best" drk gear? None of you are ever going to have every piece.

/crushes dreams.

Taint did.

[Nattack]

you forgot the /burst bubble part D:

[Sakka_Valefor]

Saxonian, on 04 November 2009 - 07:24 PM, said:

Taint did.

Did?

[UNCTGTG]

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Meh, I dont see any of it out of anyone's reach outside of AV items. And surprisingly as madawc pointed out, after seeing what the best piece/setup is, its not so hard for people to work around that build and make their own similiar to it within their own obtainable boundaries.

Exactly what people need to realize, build your character to the style that fits your playstyle. I did.

[Saxonian]

Sakka_Valefor, on 05 November 2009 - 03:13 PM, said:

Did?

I was under the impression he sold a lot of it to gear other jobs.

[Nattack]

but i mean, what would he sell. Dusk hands+1 is too useful... and... letting my grips off of an AV item, any of them.

[Taint]

Nattack, on 06 November 2009 - 11:46 PM, said:

but i mean, what would he sell. Dusk hands+1 is too useful... and... letting my grips off of an AV item, any of them.

Sold dusk+1, mars, kclub, cerb+1 for Yoichi (just need attestation)

I'm not going to miss any of that gear on DRK for what it will be used for and SoboroSAM w/ yoichi is the most potent DD available atm.

[Chriscoffey]

Till they uncap haste for dark with Apocalypse only then we shall see the overpower like no other DD before our time.... ... i have a dream.....I would love to see that just for a week's worth or till game shuts down... either or.

[Taint]

Chriscoffey, on 07 November 2009 - 02:40 PM, said:

Till they uncap haste for dark with Apocalypse only then we shall see the overpower like no other DD before our time.... ... i have a dream.....I would love to see that just for a week's worth or till game shuts down... either or.

93.3 haste apoc DRK was so awesome, sad that so few of us ever got to appreciate its power. 24k to Kirin in under 30seconds was just broke. I doubt SE will ever let us do that again.

[UNCTGTG]

Taint, on 07 November 2009 - 05:58 PM, said:

93.3 haste apoc DRK was so awesome, sad that so few of us ever got to appreciate its power. 24k to Kirin in under 30seconds was just broke. I doubt SE will ever let us do that again.

To fix that stupid thing all they had to do, was remove drk from using rune chopper and let us apoc drks have some fun. I know I got to have fun with it..... Omegas, ToAU bosses, nyzul bosses (So not fair in there).

[Chriscoffey]

UNCTGTG, on 07 November 2009 - 10:17 PM, said:

To fix that stupid thing all they had to do, was remove drk from using rune chopper and let us apoc drks have some fun. I know I got to have fun with it..... Omegas, ToAU bosses, nyzul bosses (So not fair in there).

Seriously just imagine that now with extra DB and haste samba added. I just would like to see it some myself.

[UNCTGTG]

Chriscoffey, on 08 November 2009 - 05:14 AM, said:

Seriously just imagine that now with extra DB and haste samba added. I just would like to see it some myself.

Haste samba never stacked past the 93.3% haste, I actually tried it.

[Chriscoffey]

UNCTGTG, on 08 November 2009 - 06:45 AM, said:

Haste samba never stacked past the 93.3% haste, I actually tried it.

I actually was meaning if they didn't have any cap at all. I didn't get to test any of that as about the time they shit on Apocalypse. I would love to see Apocalypse with the 2 extra DB without a cap.

[UNCTGTG]

Chriscoffey, on 08 November 2009 - 09:11 AM, said:

I actually was meaning if they didn't have any cap at all. I didn't get to test any of that as about the time they shit on Apocalypse. I would love to see Apocalypse with the 2 extra DB without a cap.

Remember 5 DB doesn't work with /sam. So u lose that 10% /sam and gain it back from DB 4-5.

[Chriscoffey]

Yeah because of JA being 25% but i was under the impression that cap was set after this haste nerf not before. I guess i should clarify myself i would love to see Apocalypse with 100% haste build then it really would be an Apocalypse. I should quote those caps for any interested parties too i guess. JA caps 25%, magic 43.XX (XX= .3-.75 ?? saw 2 different things on this one by nameless quoting .3 then other things saying .75), equip caps 26% (25.6% actual), Cata (10%) = Equip haste and Haste belt = magic haste (10%). I know sometimes people still try to say one is the other so this rebuilds upon other forum topics on the matter.

[Hitoseijuro]

Chriscoffey, on 08 November 2009 - 03:10 PM, said:

Yeah because of JA being 25% but i was under the impression that cap was set after this haste nerf not before.

Ya its always been that way, even before nerf.
JA = 25
Equip = 25(25.6)
Magic = 50
Cap = 93.3%

Now only thing capped was magic cap and total haste cap.

Also about haste samba, I thought It didnt count toward the haste cap. Maybe they mean it doesnt count toward the JA haste cap, but still caps at Haste cap?

[Goshtin]

I am goin to bump this thread
because I'm growing aware of the fact that ever since I got my apoc I stopped gearing my drk
I'm still lackign dusk+1 and Vbelt, so I wonder.. if I just need 16% haste in gear ideally, is there some perfect set that exists now?
cause I'm still laced in homam