[Arkanethered]

This is what I use to TP in... I find myself really enjoying it.. When I obtained my V.belt it really opened up some options for me and upgrading to blitz / onyx was noticeable in my parses. Get a Vbelt or put up the cash for a speed and find some Aurum feet you won't regret it... Well you might but yea, worth it imo. ^^

Apoc
Pole
Bomb Core
Ace's
Justice
Abyssal/Brutal
Adaberk
Homam hands
Blitz / Rajas
Foragers
V.Belt
Onyx legs
Aurum feet.

[Chriscoffey]

Or what you could do is instead of blowing so many K's just on food blow a few on haste belts for the 10% magic haste and build up a 25-26% haste equip build without the waist slot being used. I can't see why everyone pays so much for 1% haste or vice versa but to use a haste belt is like some unknown thing lol. 10 seconds out of 3 minutes for downtime and thats just JA/spell/attack stuff if timed right is nothing when you have 2 minutes and 50 seconds of 10% haste each time add to your build. While having SV marches is a nice thing haste belt can be used full time. I see guys using Carbonara for store TP and attack bonus's at a cost around 3-4k for every 30 minutes. I know most places you can get food bonus but for darks i would use refresh since we get hardly much refresh anyways. I believe that would put us at 8k or close enough to say that a haste belt is 8-10k per hour and the food is feasibly close in the same cost area. Why would you put so much emphasis on the food but not the haste? I swear to me that doesn't make much sense at all maybe someone can enlighten me.

This post has been edited by Chriscoffey: 25 February 2010 - 06:31 PM

[Goshtin]

I used to use haste belt, for zergs it may not be a bad idea, but didnt most SV zergs reach magic cap anyway?
was haste belt magic or gear?

edit: besides if it's magic, doesnt a standard zerg rerach the 40%(?) haste cap anyway

This post has been edited by Goshtin: 26 February 2010 - 02:14 AM

[Taint]

Arkanethered, on 25 February 2010 - 04:34 PM, said:

This is what I use to TP in... I find myself really enjoying it.. When I obtained my V.belt it really opened up some options for me and upgrading to blitz / onyx was noticeable in my parses. Get a Vbelt or put up the cash for a speed and find some Aurum feet you won't regret it... Well you might but yea, worth it imo. ^^

Apoc
Pole
Bomb Core
Ace's
Justice
Abyssal/Brutal
Adaberk
Homam hands
Blitz / Rajas
Foragers
V.Belt
Onyx legs
Aurum feet.

I've had much better parse results from homam feet, acc ring when using pure att food. I put my piss boots back in storage until I get lucky on dusk gloves again.

[Chriscoffey]

The belt im talking about using is for full time without SV march. That is why i said it is nice to have SV march but most times you dont have it so why not use the belt to cap your haste or if nothing else without march x 2 and haste get 10% haste either way you gain 7-10% haste. Magic Haste is 43.75% Haste pretty sure. Haste spell is 15%, march x 2 varies according to the brds skill level but its 21-22 or so most times with both. That is 37% haste so to cap you need bare minium of 7% haste to cap it out. I reiterate my previous post why spend for food what you can for the 7% haste for the same duration. I would much rather get the haste than the food myself or both.

This post has been edited by Chriscoffey: 26 February 2010 - 03:42 PM

[Goshtin]

this is my TP set. the belt is swift and the ring is toradora
I can baw a 1000 times that I just dont have the drive to get vbelt or dusk+1.. but that seems like the only major thing I could add to this set

This post has been edited by Goshtin: 27 February 2010 - 03:50 AM

[Madawc]

rings and earrings on wrong sides

like this

This post has been edited by Madawc: 28 February 2010 - 01:03 PM

[Goshtin]

is +2 the same as 2%?
why the fuck would I bother with ares flanchard or homam compared to those legs which I have never even heard of.
my god

(loop) <- (me)

[Taint]

Goshtin, on 02 March 2010 - 01:35 PM, said:

is +2 the same as 2%?
why the fuck would I bother with ares flanchard or homam compared to those legs which I have never even heard of.
my god

(loop) <- (me)

TP/cast homam is better then those. AM ares is better then those. That's why.

[Goshtin]

y

[Taint]

Goshtin, on 02 March 2010 - 06:16 PM, said:

y

You aren't going to cap acc on anything hard eating meat, so the acc on homam is a huge plus as is the fastcast for shadows or spells in general.

For AM you don't need the haste so Ares gets you the DA and adds 6str and 6dex.

[Jazz]

I like my Blitzer Poleyn legs with Haste+3% and accuracy+7 augments.

The ones with haste+3% and double attack+2% will only be better if your accuracy is capped , so for weak stuff and specially with Apoc, sure, but like Taint said, you won't cap accuracy on anything hard, so I would take the accuracy+7 for TP any day. Further, it seems to me like the accuracy from homam or the accuracy from blitzer poleyn legs with acc+7 augment, will be better most of the time than the blitzer poleyn legs with double attack+2% ....unless all you do is merit or fight merit level mobs or below etc...where you could be capped on accuracy.

I don't have an Apoc though, so the STR+2, haste+3%, and accuracy+7 was just too good to pass up for my drk TP.

For some spells like absorb-TP and dreadspikes as well as for precast for most other spells too, and for KC zerg....I macro in my homam legs.

Why limit yourself to just homam legs or just the blitzer poleyn (with haste+3% and acc+7), when you can use macros and use both?

Blitzer poleyn with STR+2, haste+3%, acc+7 are basically Homam cosciales+1 for TP

[Taint]

Jazz, on 02 March 2010 - 11:06 PM, said:

I like my Blitzer Poleyn legs with Haste+3% and accuracy+7 augments.

The ones with haste+3% and double attack+2% will only be better if your accuracy is capped , so for weak stuff and specially with Apoc, sure, but like Taint said, you won't cap accuracy on anything hard, so I would take the accuracy+7 for TP any day. Further, it seems to me like the accuracy from homam or the accuracy from blitzer poleyn legs with acc+7 augment, will be better most of the time than the blitzer poleyn legs with double attack+2% ....unless all you do is merit or fight merit level mobs or below etc...where you could be capped on accuracy.

I don't have an Apoc though, so the STR+2, haste+3%, and accuracy+7 was just too good to pass up for my drk TP.

For some spells like absorb-TP and dreadspikes as well as for precast for most other spells too, and for KC zerg....I macro in my homam legs.

Why limit yourself to just homam legs or just the blitzer poleyn (with haste+3% and acc+7), when you can use macros and use both?

Blitzer poleyn with STR+2, haste+3%, acc+7 are basically Homam cosciales+1 for TP

Yeah you pretty much nailed it. If I didn't want the movement speed for my SAM I'd be all over the +3haste +7acc legs.

[Goshtin]

I've never noticed any accuracy issues when I do events on drk
looking at my most recent parse I did 96hits and 4misses with carbonara food
so thats 96% accuracy. can u even reach 100% acc?
I think I'd prefer those madawc pants compared to 3 accuracy, since I dont have ares anyway

[Taint]

Goshtin, on 03 March 2010 - 12:39 PM, said:

I've never noticed any accuracy issues when I do events on drk
looking at my most recent parse I did 96hits and 4misses with carbonara food
so thats 96% accuracy. can u even reach 100% acc?
I think I'd prefer those madawc pants compared to 3 accuracy, since I dont have ares anyway

Event food buffs?

I use currys and only cap acc in weaker events like t1 jar and limbus. Even is my acc was capped I'd be using Ares legs over those.

[Goshtin]

Melee Damage
Player            Melee Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi    M.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C.Avg     Crit%
Agilegroundhog        13351   71.90 %     251/66   79.18 %     0/112    44.90     44     0/161   92.18   17.53 %
Blevien                4617   64.37 %       46/8   85.19 %     0/223    84.34     14     0/246  137.00   30.43 %
Darkanglex            17070   75.86 %     361/22   94.26 %     0/121    39.38     59     0/166   87.73   16.34 %
Deadplaything          6372   64.07 %      78/14   84.78 %     0/232    79.03      9     0/273  102.11   11.54 %
Deshin                10174   43.07 %     127/25   83.55 %     0/181    73.35     13     0/238  139.38   10.24 %
Dorone                    0    0.00 %        0/2    0.00 %       0/0     0.00      0       0/0    0.00    0.00 %
Dougg                     0    0.00 %        0/3    0.00 %       0/0     0.00      0       0/0    0.00    0.00 %
Fuyo                  13613   46.11 %     131/10   92.91 %     0/217    92.46     15     0/270  192.53   11.45 %
Giliant                7759   73.11 %     168/60   73.68 %     0/119    37.60     30     0/174   85.67   17.86 %
Goshtin               20372   67.40 %     201/10   95.26 %     0/322    92.72     15    45/556  208.47    7.46 %
Hezzel                11164   34.31 %      160/4   97.56 %     0/192    61.98     22     0/197  118.68   13.75 %
Stickybuds            12976   62.22 %     165/23   87.77 %     0/215    71.21     19     0/289  135.74   11.52 %
Taiko                 13281   59.85 %     130/10   92.86 %     0/213   102.12     20     0/286  102.40   15.38 %
Urukubarr             15461   37.95 %     197/15   92.92 %     0/191    73.97     18     0/228  123.33    9.14 %
Sasavi                  147   44.95 %        5/2   71.43 %     24/28    25.00      1     47/47   47.00   20.00 % 

that's a T3. I did 201/10 so 95% accuracy if I'm readin this right. still just eatin carbonaras. brd march x2 and no cor. was spamming DE when I could though

I'm gettin those Madawc pants when I get the time

This post has been edited by Goshtin: 03 March 2010 - 06:23 PM

[Argettio]

95% hit rate is the cap, this cap is code into the game by SE, so there is no way to break it.

[firefeng]

Goshtin, on 03 March 2010 - 06:21 PM, said:

Melee Damage
Player            Melee Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi    M.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C.Avg     Crit%
Agilegroundhog        13351   71.90 %     251/66   79.18 %     0/112    44.90     44     0/161   92.18   17.53 %
Blevien                4617   64.37 %       46/8   85.19 %     0/223    84.34     14     0/246  137.00   30.43 %
Darkanglex            17070   75.86 %     361/22   94.26 %     0/121    39.38     59     0/166   87.73   16.34 %
Deadplaything          6372   64.07 %      78/14   84.78 %     0/232    79.03      9     0/273  102.11   11.54 %
Deshin                10174   43.07 %     127/25   83.55 %     0/181    73.35     13     0/238  139.38   10.24 %
Dorone                    0    0.00 %        0/2    0.00 %       0/0     0.00      0       0/0    0.00    0.00 %
Dougg                     0    0.00 %        0/3    0.00 %       0/0     0.00      0       0/0    0.00    0.00 %
Fuyo                  13613   46.11 %     131/10   92.91 %     0/217    92.46     15     0/270  192.53   11.45 %
Giliant                7759   73.11 %     168/60   73.68 %     0/119    37.60     30     0/174   85.67   17.86 %
Goshtin               20372   67.40 %     201/10   95.26 %     0/322    92.72     15    45/556  208.47    7.46 %
Hezzel                11164   34.31 %      160/4   97.56 %     0/192    61.98     22     0/197  118.68   13.75 %
Stickybuds            12976   62.22 %     165/23   87.77 %     0/215    71.21     19     0/289  135.74   11.52 %
Taiko                 13281   59.85 %     130/10   92.86 %     0/213   102.12     20     0/286  102.40   15.38 %
Urukubarr             15461   37.95 %     197/15   92.92 %     0/191    73.97     18     0/228  123.33    9.14 %
Sasavi                  147   44.95 %        5/2   71.43 %     24/28    25.00      1     47/47   47.00   20.00 % 

that's a T3. I did 201/10 so 95% accuracy if I'm readin this right. still just eatin carbonaras. brd march x2 and no cor. was spamming DE when I could though

I'm gettin those Madawc pants when I get the time

We need to get you some arrabbiata. I'll have none o' this "average damage of 92 per swing" crap on an Apoc DRK. I don't care if it is T3. Man up and put some TESTOSTERONE into those swings.

[Taint]

firefeng, on 04 March 2010 - 06:59 AM, said:

We need to get you some arrabbiata. I'll have none o' this "average damage of 92 per swing" crap on an Apoc DRK. I don't care if it is T3. Man up and put some TESTOSTERONE into those swings.

Maybe only marches and the Carbonara explains it.

[Argettio]

I assume the Carbonara/Arrabbiata is to help souleater?

Other wise get some Yellow Curry buns (or Red Buns, you guys own Apocs after all)...