[Arkanethered]

T3 - March x2 - Red Curry bunz... I didn't realize I was only 90% before I checked... looks like I am switching core to bomblet and actually using DE on these.

Melee Damage
Player            Melee Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi    M.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C.Avg     Crit%
Aratz                  5568   16.92 %      120/0  100.00 %     24/59    41.57     14    63/105   83.00   11.67 %
Arkanethered          38093   67.82 %     183/19   90.59 %    98/600   190.70     18   238/824  368.22    9.84 %
Bishumonten            6886   24.03 %      173/0  100.00 %      0/62    35.69     17    51/101   77.53    9.83 %
Bmilker               15358   34.11 %      156/0  100.00 %    55/148    90.75     14   133/222  176.57    8.97 %
Chojiro                9020   34.91 %       80/0  100.00 %    40/202   103.88      6   127/260  222.17    7.50 %
Dajociont             16184   44.71 %      502/0  100.00 %     6/116    27.98     80    22/166   54.71   15.94 %
Evanze                17608   61.68 %      134/0  100.00 %    56/206   118.72     16   181/259  224.94   11.94 %
Fobos                  9927   30.44 %      109/0  100.00 %    11/128    81.63     14    87/204  155.14   12.84 %
Magicide              17217   52.76 %      141/0  100.00 %    51/209   116.56      9   143/238  203.44    6.38 %
Myrrh                  8095   20.70 %      216/0  100.00 %      0/57    33.36     22    58/102   73.77   10.19 %
Noryoko                7102   18.05 %      175/0  100.00 %      2/64    36.30     17    62/103   80.35    9.71 %
Unstopable            16557   40.84 %      149/0  100.00 %    61/181   100.59     18   140/254  187.78   12.08 %
Yasashi               21543   54.53 %      156/0  100.00 %    20/235   125.93     25     0/287  201.84   16.03 %
Celeste                1363   47.03 %       43/0  100.00 %     20/45    31.70      0       0/0    0.00    0.00 %

Ok how do I make copy/paste from kparse line up... >.<

This post has been edited by Arkanethered: 04 March 2010 - 03:35 PM

[UNCTGTG]

Arkanethered, on 04 March 2010 - 10:20 AM, said:

T3 - March x2 - Red Curry bunz... I didn't realize I was only 90% before I checked... looks like I am switching core to bomblet and actually using DE on these.

Melee Damage
Player Melee Dmg Melee % Hit/Miss M.Acc % M.Low/Hi M.Avg #Crit C.Low/Hi C.Avg Crit%
Aratz 5568 16.92 % 120/0 100.00 % 24/59 41.57 14 63/105 83.00 11.67 %
Arkanethered 38093 67.82 % 183/19 90.59 % 98/600 190.70 18 238/824 368.22 9.84 %
Bishumonten 6886 24.03 % 173/0 100.00 % 0/62 35.69 17 51/101 77.53 9.83 %
Bmilker 15358 34.11 % 156/0 100.00 % 55/148 90.75 14 133/222 176.57 8.97 %
Chojiro 9020 34.91 % 80/0 100.00 % 40/202 103.88 6 127/260 222.17 7.50 %
Dajociont 16184 44.71 % 502/0 100.00 % 6/116 27.98 80 22/166 54.71 15.94 %
Evanze 17608 61.68 % 134/0 100.00 % 56/206 118.72 16 181/259 224.94 11.94 %
Fobos 9927 30.44 % 109/0 100.00 % 11/128 81.63 14 87/204 155.14 12.84 %
Magicide 17217 52.76 % 141/0 100.00 % 51/209 116.56 9 143/238 203.44 6.38 %
Myrrh 8095 20.70 % 216/0 100.00 % 0/57 33.36 22 58/102 73.77 10.19 %
Noryoko 7102 18.05 % 175/0 100.00 % 2/64 36.30 17 62/103 80.35 9.71 %
Unstopable 16557 40.84 % 149/0 100.00 % 61/181 100.59 18 140/254 187.78 12.08 %
Yasashi 21543 54.53 % 156/0 100.00 % 20/235 125.93 25 0/287 201.84 16.03 %
Celeste 1363 47.03 % 43/0 100.00 % 20/45 31.70 0 0/0 0.00 0.00 %


Ok how do I make copy/paste from kparse line up... >.<

My eyes

[Goshtin]

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also whats wong with carbonara? more TP and HP for zerg. but I'll try a red curry next run for the hell of it

[Taint]

Arkanethered, on 04 March 2010 - 10:20 AM, said:

T3 - March x2 - Red Curry bunz... I didn't realize I was only 90% before I checked... looks like I am switching core to bomblet and actually using DE on these.

Melee Damage
Player Melee Dmg Melee % Hit/Miss M.Acc % M.Low/Hi M.Avg #Crit C.Low/Hi C.Avg Crit%
Aratz 5568 16.92 % 120/0 100.00 % 24/59 41.57 14 63/105 83.00 11.67 %
Arkanethered 38093 67.82 % 183/19 90.59 % 98/600 190.70 18 238/824 368.22 9.84 %
Bishumonten 6886 24.03 % 173/0 100.00 % 0/62 35.69 17 51/101 77.53 9.83 %
Bmilker 15358 34.11 % 156/0 100.00 % 55/148 90.75 14 133/222 176.57 8.97 %
Chojiro 9020 34.91 % 80/0 100.00 % 40/202 103.88 6 127/260 222.17 7.50 %
Dajociont 16184 44.71 % 502/0 100.00 % 6/116 27.98 80 22/166 54.71 15.94 %
Evanze 17608 61.68 % 134/0 100.00 % 56/206 118.72 16 181/259 224.94 11.94 %
Fobos 9927 30.44 % 109/0 100.00 % 11/128 81.63 14 87/204 155.14 12.84 %
Magicide 17217 52.76 % 141/0 100.00 % 51/209 116.56 9 143/238 203.44 6.38 %
Myrrh 8095 20.70 % 216/0 100.00 % 0/57 33.36 22 58/102 73.77 10.19 %
Noryoko 7102 18.05 % 175/0 100.00 % 2/64 36.30 17 62/103 80.35 9.71 %
Unstopable 16557 40.84 % 149/0 100.00 % 61/181 100.59 18 140/254 187.78 12.08 %
Yasashi 21543 54.53 % 156/0 100.00 % 20/235 125.93 25 0/287 201.84 16.03 %
Celeste 1363 47.03 % 43/0 100.00 % 20/45 31.70 0 0/0 0.00 0.00 %


Ok how do I make copy/paste from kparse line up... >.<

That looks identical to most of my t3 parses which is why haste+3 acc+7 is far superior to da+2 and why ares legs will still own for an AM build since your tp legs should be homam or haste+3acc+7 legs. On harder events/mobs the acc is even more important.

[firefeng]

Taint, on 04 March 2010 - 07:25 AM, said:

Maybe only marches and the Carbonara explains it.

I heard they updated the damage equations (again) after I quit, making higher level things take less damage than I was used to, but I haven't really looked into it. (I probably should, considering I'm coming back for a bit...)

Goshtin said:

also whats wong with carbonara? more TP and HP for zerg. but I'll try a red curry next run for the hell of it

Nah, Carbonara will spit out more damage than red curry in the long run, anyway, as per its Store TP. That's why I suggested Arrabbiata, which is basically carbonara but with Red Curry's Attack bonus. It's expensive as hell, though, and only lasts 30 minutes. Mostly I was just teasing you.

This post has been edited by firefeng: 04 March 2010 - 09:34 PM

[Taint]

firefeng, on 04 March 2010 - 09:32 PM, said:

I heard they updated the damage equations (again) after I quit, making higher level things take less damage than I was used to, but I haven't really looked into it. (I probably should, considering I'm coming back for a bit...)



Nah, Carbonara will spit out more damage than red curry in the long run, anyway, as per its Store TP. That's why I suggested Arrabbiata, which is basically carbonara but with Red Curry's Attack bonus. It's expensive as hell, though, and only lasts 30 minutes. Mostly I was just teasing you.

Stp is only good if it ups ur xhit if not its going to waste and the HP boost is nice for zergs but in a hard zone or fighting a harder mob the +att will come out on top vs the hp boost.

[Magicide]

Arkanethered, on 04 March 2010 - 10:20 AM, said:

T3 - March x2 - Red Curry bunz... I didn't realize I was only 90% before I checked... looks like I am switching core to bomblet and actually using DE on these.

Melee Damage
Player            Melee Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi    M.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C.Avg     Crit%
Aratz                  5568   16.92 %      120/0  100.00 %     24/59    41.57     14    63/105   83.00   11.67 %
Arkanethered          38093   67.82 %     183/19   90.59 %    98/600   190.70     18   238/824  368.22    9.84 %
Bishumonten            6886   24.03 %      173/0  100.00 %      0/62    35.69     17    51/101   77.53    9.83 %
Bmilker               15358   34.11 %      156/0  100.00 %    55/148    90.75     14   133/222  176.57    8.97 %
Chojiro                9020   34.91 %       80/0  100.00 %    40/202   103.88      6   127/260  222.17    7.50 %
Dajociont             16184   44.71 %      502/0  100.00 %     6/116    27.98     80    22/166   54.71   15.94 %
Evanze                17608   61.68 %      134/0  100.00 %    56/206   118.72     16   181/259  224.94   11.94 %
Fobos                  9927   30.44 %      109/0  100.00 %    11/128    81.63     14    87/204  155.14   12.84 %
Magicide              17217   52.76 %      141/0  100.00 %    51/209   116.56      9   143/238  203.44    6.38 %
Myrrh                  8095   20.70 %      216/0  100.00 %      0/57    33.36     22    58/102   73.77   10.19 %
Noryoko                7102   18.05 %      175/0  100.00 %      2/64    36.30     17    62/103   80.35    9.71 %
Unstopable            16557   40.84 %      149/0  100.00 %    61/181   100.59     18   140/254  187.78   12.08 %
Yasashi               21543   54.53 %      156/0  100.00 %    20/235   125.93     25     0/287  201.84   16.03 %
Celeste                1363   47.03 %       43/0  100.00 %     20/45    31.70      0       0/0    0.00    0.00 %

Ok how do I make copy/paste from kparse line up... >.<

If that was from the run where we got bones, remember that you probably spent some that wave blinded, which could account for the uncapped accuracy.

This post has been edited by Magicide: 05 March 2010 - 05:13 PM

[firefeng]

Taint, on 05 March 2010 - 12:47 PM, said:

Stp is only good if it ups ur xhit if not its going to waste and the HP boost is nice for zergs but in a hard zone or fighting a harder mob the +att will come out on top vs the hp boost.

That's glaringly obvious. I highly doubt he was using carbonara for its paltry attack boost or HP bonus...

[Argettio]

firefeng, on 09 March 2010 - 04:22 PM, said:

That's glaringly obvious. I highly doubt he was using carbonara for its paltry attack boost or HP bonus...

Then he needs to fix his gear.

If the guy has an Apoc and can't 6hit without food then I feel sorry for his Scythe....

[firefeng]

Argettio, on 10 March 2010 - 04:37 AM, said:

Then he needs to fix his gear.

If the guy has an Apoc and can't 6hit without food then I feel sorry for his Scythe....

That depends on whether or not he's getting SAM roll. See: UNCTCGCGTRI-can-never-remember-his-proper-letter-orderCTTTCGRTCG's comments on the matter of full haste, Store TP builds with Catastrophe.

I feel sorry for his scythe when everyone who doesn't own it are making blasé assumptions about his setup.

[Argettio]

firefeng, on 10 March 2010 - 07:29 AM, said:

That depends on whether or not he's getting SAM roll. See: UNCTCGCGTRI-can-never-remember-his-proper-letter-orderCTTTCGRTCG's comments on the matter of full haste, Store TP builds with Catastrophe.

I feel sorry for his scythe when everyone who doesn't own it are making blasé assumptions about his setup.

True 6hit for an Apoc is 21 sTP, which is /SAM + Rajas + Brutal. Unless I missed the bit where he was /nin, he has no excuse for not 6hitting his Apoc. And if a Apoc DRK can't (or won't) get Rajas and Brutal then I feel sorry for his scythe.

If he is /NIN then striving for a 6hit is a futile and unproductive endeavour (unless you are getting SAM roll). As /nin he can 7 hit with just Rajas.

I am unsure what haste has to do with sTP. The only slot where the choice is haste or sTP is the second ring slot (1 haste vs 1 sTP), but you shouldn't need that ring slot for sTP any way.

The only other thing I can think you are referring to is sword strap and then eating sTP food to regain the 6hit? That isn't something I have ever worked out, but I am not sure it would beat Pole grip + real food. If that is what you are talking about then I will give it a quick run through and see how the two sets compare.

So there wasn't anything Blase about what I said.

This post has been edited by Argettio: 12 March 2010 - 05:25 AM

[Stilm]

I think firefeng wasn't talking about 6 hitting apoc...if you check UNCTGT posts he talks about 4 hitting his scythe...I could be wrong but this is the idea I got ^^

[Chriscoffey]

Yes. But the true question being roll of 11 only or roll of 2 as well.. the rabbit hole gets deeper.

[UNCTGTG]

Its UNC = Univ. of North Carolina TGTG = Theta Gamma x2 So now u are set with that.

Yes you need Sam Roll to reach a 4 hit build, using Carb, Carb+1 etc, and stacking store TP on, with lots of haste...

You can maintain a 71.6% haste, with brd and haste spell, cata haste, gear haste, hasso.... and have a 4 hit build if the cor hits certain rolls.

Can the cor do it ever time NO, but with that set up you will be tanking, and don't even think that it would make us an MP sponge.

Now you can say it requires a lot of support, yes it does, but I have a personal brd and cor (af2 hat) that never merit without me. Like I tell other players and apoc owners find what fits your play style. This is my style, use it if you like, if not develop your own.

Edit: and if you are /nin on anything outside of AOE spamming HNMs you need to just quit

Edit x2: I'm tired I'm going back to watching the Cool CSs in FFXIII and waiting on the stupid Alpha files to be posted so I can get into that already....

Edit x3: If a Fulltime drk isn't using Brutal/Rajas he needs to quite..(unless they are working on sea)

Editx4: Chris you been watching Alice and Wonderland again?

This post has been edited by UNCTGTG: 13 March 2010 - 08:17 PM

[Argettio]

Stilm, on 12 March 2010 - 09:22 AM, said:

I think firefeng wasn't talking about 6 hitting apoc...if you check UNCTGT posts he talks about 4 hitting his scythe...I could be wrong but this is the idea I got ^^

Ah I missed the bit about 4 hitting.

My apologies.

[Goshtin]

how does this sound?

apoc
pole grip
ares mask
justice torque
brutal earring
abyssal earring
adamanberk
dusk+1 hands
ragas ring
toreador ring
foragers (cerb+1)
speed belt
blizter poleyn (hast3, DA2)
homam feet

key stats:

haste 16% (10% apoc)
da 6%

This post has been edited by Goshtin: 18 March 2010 - 08:59 PM

[Stilm]

that's 9% DA 2 (pole grip) 2 (blitzer) 5 (brutal earring)

[Goshtin]

MATHS

[Argettio]

Goshtin, on 18 March 2010 - 08:20 PM, said:

how does this sound?

apoc
pole grip
ares mask
justice torque
brutal earring
abyssal earring
adamanberk
dusk+1 hands
ragas ring
toreador ring
foragers (cerb+1)
speed belt
blizter poleyn (hast3, DA2)
homam feet

key stats:

haste 16% (10% apoc)
da 6%

It would probably be worth switching Homam Feet for Aurum feet and using Blitz ring to keep your 16% haste.

You lose 6 acc but gain 5 attack and about 1% crit rate (depending on dDEX). With Ares mask (+12 acc) you should be higher than your normal (read: non-aftermath) TP build.

But it all depends on the amount of accuracy need though

[Madawc]

Nocturnus Helm
DEF:24 STR+6 DEX+6 AGI+6 Attack+8
"Double Attack"+2%
Occasionally absorbs physical damage
taken
Lv. 75 WAR, PLD, DRK, BST, SAM, DRG


My new Aftermath headpiece



Fierce Belt
Attack+15
Lv 75 WAR, MNK, RDM, THF, PLD, DRK, BST, BRD, RNG, SAM, NIN, DRG, BLU, COR, DNC

WS belt


Aesir Ear Pendant
Attack+7 "Conserve TP"+3
Dark weather: "Conserve TP"+6
Lv 75 All Jobs
5hit?

This post has been edited by Madawc: 22 March 2010 - 11:41 AM