[Lostboy]

Hey guys, just checkn in. Was bored and was thinkin about xi lol... quit a couple years ago and was thinking about coming back... anyway to what im trying to say >_>

I started xi when it first came out... i played thf until i unlocked drg (my thf and drg were 75 when i quit rest of the jobs at 40...) i was (to my knowledge...) one of the first drgs to solo their way up... i lvled with my flag always up lol... like some of you remember... just kept plugn away because no one would invite a "loldrg". drg was my favorite job... i played for years gearing my thf and drg and just fucking around... hunting nms and soloing shit with my drg that partys my same lvl were taking on... lol... drg was my job, it was what made xi fun for me... even though no one would ever... ever... invite me to pts... and its not that my gear was bad at all >_O; o hat, ass jerkin, snipers, foragers, ws in heca... you know the goods... it was because people didn't think that drg could do enough dmg... spike or dot... so all the way to 75 with no pts... merited without a pt... and farmed for gear for drg on my thf... but drg is my favorite job and always will be... even though SE has treated us like redheaded stepchildren... even though our Job traits, abilities, and gear (sometimes i still have dreams that se let drg use hauby... but i see that they still havent let you guys ;_ arn't on par with every other dd, drg still holds its own... i contemplated coming back but... i see id still be disipointed... i dont want to waste a year getting this new (but i have to say, best gear ever...) aries set, and trying to complete a gungnir... just cant waste the time now that im older... played xi since i was in middle school til i droped out of highschool lol... hell i still remember half the zones and nm spawns... anyway dont want to give you guys a huge wall of text but...

the difference between drg and every other job... even though they may have better gear... job traits and abilities... you guys have worked your asses off, you guys have been laughed at im sure, and people have always picked other dds over you... but a good drg can out dmg the war/drk/sam bitches with their haubies and bombcores... why? cuz you guys know how to play and hold your own... hope SE gives you a break (like not gimping subjob abilities [honestly isn't it a drgs job to run off his/her subjob???], halving jump timers, and/or boosting dmg on the jumps)

hope you have shown people that you guys dont deserve the "loldrg"...
(im almost suprised people still play drg actually >_>

[Lostboy]

oh and i just refreshed my memory on why SE hates us... besides the war/drk/pld gear onry... take into account some of our JAs, and JTs...

Job Traits

DRG
dragonkiller
acc 2

DRK
arcane killer
atck 4
resist para4

Sam
demon killer
store tp 4
resist blind 4

sounds fair right? all of em have 2handed weapons....

Job Abilities

DRG
AncientC(5)
Jump(10)
Spiritlink(25)
Hijump(35)
Superjump(50)

DRK
ArcaneC(5)
Last Resort(15)
Weapon Bash(20)
Soul Eater(30)
(so just more attck up...)

SAM
WardingC(5)
Third Eye(15)
Hasso(25)
Meditate(30)
Seigan(35)
Sekkanoki(60)
(and more Tp gain, haste, attck up, and tack on the third eye seigan combo...)

and then the merit abilities and traits... i duno about you guys but it seems to me that the drks and sams get the upperhand there too...

and then on top off all this bullshit they say that drks A- drk magic (269 at 75) is equal to the wiff machine wyvern... fuck that... seriously...

ok im just being angry... wyvern can really help... heal as well as do nice dmg... but isnt equal to the benifits these other two jobs get....

in all the years of playing i think drg has only got gimped... while these other jobs just get nicer perks... :/

im not saying that drg is a bad dd at all, its just we have to work harder to be good dds... any noob can buy a sam or drk account and "pwn"... you need some skill to pull off drg...

And ill say this again, SE needs to give drg the benefit of having full subjob abilities... drg run off their sub jobs... how the hell can we get SE to listen? i duno... anyway... not coming back until drg gets some tweaks... cuz it just makes me angry and sad... >_O;

[Prothescar]

It's funny how that an unmerited and not superbly geared DRG such as myself was able to beat two SAM, one of which is geared out the ass and fully merited, in a merit party the other day, factoring in my wyvern. DRG is definitely a powerhouse, and not only on birds. Jump, High Jump, and Angon are all powerful offensive abilities and Super Jump gives you the ability to erase your hate in a matter of seconds. Sure SAM and DRK have a lot of flashy abilities that increase their performance, but let's see them survive very long after letting them all out at once. As a SAM myself I can attest to the fact that going all-out with Hasso, multiple WSs at once via Sekkanoki and/or Meditate, etc. will get me killed 9/10 times. DRG is able to match or go beyond most every DD in this game.

Ever since the two-handed weapon buffs, all of the two-handed weapon jobs have been accepted. You're going off of the abilities and traits that the job has, so don't go an pass judgment before you even try to play the job that DRG is now. You're also not taking into account sub jobs, Hasso is a level 25 ability and Seigan is a level 35 ability, not to mention Meditate at level 30. This means that any job can get Hasso at level 50, Meditate at level 60 and Seigan at level 70. Taking into account traits, any job can get Zanshin and Store TP, to some degree, as well.

So before you condemn DRG and say you aren't coming back because DRG has been "gimped" and all of the other jobs were the ones that got buffed, take a look at the real facts.

[Lostboy]

i wasnt trying to say drg is gimped at all... i guess i just didnt get my point across the way i wanted... like i said i havent played in a couple years... so i havent had the chance to be in game and see how drg is doing, all i get to see is these abilities and gear, and try and remember what it was like for me in game, personaly i remember having problems with acc with my polearm maxed and merited with acc gear for tp, and my wyvern wiffing most of the time on important fights >_O; and remembering the shit that drk and sam could pull if there was a good tank and thf in the pt or they were subbing thf and/or had an addtional ninja... there were a few senarios where i was put to shame by sams and drks that were wearing af at 70+ and it made me die a little inside... but like i said, drg can hold their own... and what is this about a two handed weapon update? im assuming from what youve said that our wyverns have also had an update or two, if you break the jobs down to JTs and JAs we should have resistances and 2 more acc traits >_> and our timers are a bit long. i never experienced quite a few of these updates either. with your guyses input and what i can read about new gear and merits i can peice it together better, and what i meant by the subjob thing is that when i was playing meditate was "fixed" so it wouldnt give you 100% tp, souleater as well as a few others.... drg and their wyverns relying on subjobs for many things i thought it would be a good idea for drg to have the full potency of the subjob abilities, seeing that their JTs and JAs arnt on par with other two handed dds... maybe thats just me, but if what you say is true and we can out parse these other two handed jobs with mediocre gear then maybe what i remember drg being is gone and it is worth coming back and seeing how well i can do with my old gear and merits... (sorry for the block of text guys...) please remember its been _years_ since ive played... updates from current drgs really helps. thank you.

fuck me... i didn't bother reading the drg forum because i thought i was the only one that had these questions... there is pretty much the same topic right below mine that answers my questions... lmao... sorry guys >_>;

This post has been edited by Lostboy: 24 September 2009 - 07:05 PM

[Prothescar]

It's alright, I misread, I apologize if I came across brash. Hope you enjoy the game when/if you decide to come back. ^^

[Lostboy]

thank you ^^ (guna come back as soon as i can find a 360 or preferably a 40gig ps3)

i think i am going to -really- enjoy this *_*

i have talked to quite a few people and they all are saying what you did, drg is one of the best dds now even w/o good gear or merits >_>

a lot has changed actually >_> i feel like if i would have posted this back when i was playing, with my horrible spelling and with a thread exactly like mine right under it i'd get mega flamed >_>

[Yhelothur]

Your spelling is fine, it's your grammar. Nonetheless, DRG is definitely good. Don't listen to the nay-sayers about "loldrg" anymore. Drakesbane makes shit go bewm.