[Kandinsky]

First impressions=> LAME.

[Dr. Ifto]

The animation for favor is the same as making it do a BP

[Alkar]

Sorry but I'll never get my hands on Nashira gages. This doesn't help SMN one bit. Now I'm going to see if avatars are weakened by this... if they are I'm not gonna bother.

[evilpaul]

So this will be useful if you still kill Kirin with a bunch of Summoners spamming Netherblast using it in a rotation?

I said it would be LOL beforehand, but SE really outdid themselves in making it ZOMGLOL!!!!!11

[DarkRift]

How do Nashira Gages not help summoner 1 bit?


Anyways.


Come on people its not like this was a nerf to our job so how would you not use it? Its an update to our job, and it will be at least semi helpful in some situations.


God srsly how can you all be so negative.

[Aihree]

Nether Blast with capped Matt merits does 546 with no tp with favor turned off.

Does 469 with favor turned on.

Attack penalty with favor definitely confirmed.

[spira]

I tried Diabolos again..

in my idle gear:
perp = 5mp/tic

with AF on, 2mp/tic

I'm guessing -2 perp and then 1 mp/tic

at 30s, dropped to 1mp/tic

and at 1m15s 0mp/tic

and no more after that...

[Dr. Ifto]

Im pissed and I barely play summoner. I just love having carby out all the time when Im running

[Alkar]

The JA doesn't help SMN... not the gages....
Avatars don't get the effect, damage is reduced (Ifrit damage on easy prey went from 90 to 50-60), RANGE IS SUPER SMALL. You seriously need to be on the avatar to get the effect.
I hope this is a joke, if not I don't know what it is.

[spira]

Titan:

Favor scales differently.. i think by tics..

my base def was 292..
when he just appears... it's 317 (+25 def)
which gradually rises.. kinda tic style..
eventually capping at 349 (+57)

it seemed to cap around 1m15s too... not accurate.. but this is preliminary findings

[Dr. Ifto]

My defense with Titan went from:

250 - No Summon out
277 - Summon Out
309 after 1:15

Forgot to refresh equipment screen

[DarkRift]

WAIT WAIT...

the avatar does not get the effect?

So no double attack for ifrit?


Also,

carby mitts is confirmed to be broken? only when favor is active?

[Dr. Ifto]

Mitts are completely broken

I took carby mitts off and there was no change in perp

[Laverna]

DarkRift, on 09 November 2009 - 02:44 PM, said:

uhhhhh


is there a cool animation?

How potent is the double attack?

with my testing in al Zahbi it took 1 min for the full effect to kick to cap making my Diabolos to cost 1 MP a tick, the refresh after 1 min is 3. My friend here is testing as well Carby regen after 1 min is 12 Regen a tick. hmmmm this is odd I just noticed after using all the Avatars, Under Avatar's Favor ALL Avatars are 1 MP a tick with my gear, ( I have bstaff and all ideal gear).

[Alkar]

Carby mitts are broken, period. With or withour JA. Avatars don't get the effect (Ifrit never double attacked) but instead a damage reduction.
I'm too pissed to keep testing now, this JA had lots of potential. Too many drawbacks SE and no avatars yet, I guess the new SMN items will drop from Xarcabard(S) NMs right?

[Dr. Ifto]

BTW you turn Favor on while a summon is out, and then once you dismiss the sumon, you lose the benefit but you still have favor on you

[dakpluto]

OK, this 5 minute timer? Is that bound to each avatar or all of them? Is it reset upon release?

AKA, If I summon diabolos, hit favor, keep him out for 2 minutes, release, then summon Garuda, will I have favor available?

[Tikki]

Dr. Ifto, on 09 November 2009 - 03:10 PM, said:

BTW you turn Favor on while a summon is out, and then once you dismiss the sumon, you lose the benefit but you still have favor on you

Aha. So the refresh for example, would go away, but you do not need to reactivate favor for the next summon?

[Kandinsky]

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OK, this 5 minute timer? Is that bound to each avatar or all of them? Is it reset upon release?

AKA, If I summon diabolos, hit favor, keep him out for 2 minutes, release, then summon Garuda, will I have favor available?

No.

[Dr. Ifto]

Favor will still be active on you, but you dont have the other summons bonus on you, so you if you summoned diabolos for refres then unsummoned him, the refresh is gone but favor is still on you