[Cream Soda]

Too long, didn't read version
Kaparu retardily pays Faggot A in advance for obtaining lv 37 in smn burn
Faggot B ruins SMN burn pulls
Faggot A gets pissed and leaves w/o Kaparu being lv 37
Faggot A keeps money, refuses to refund it


If you make any kind of deal w/ Faggot A, be sure not to pay in advanced.

[Punicesvir]

I do not blame the guy for keeping it. Who the hell pays for a SMN burn? Even if you are going to pay for a SMN burn why would you pay in advance when those things fuck up so many times. This definitely did not warrant a player warning.

[Cream Soda]

Faggot A and Kaparu had a deal, Faggot A backed out. Don't see how this does not warrant a player warning thread. Letting other people know to be careful when making deals (of any kind) with Faggot A, as if things do not go as planned, he will take the exit route most beneficial to himself.

[Speltz]

womp womp

[Ligerzero]

how much did he pay?

[Phlow]

Pay for DNC to 37 Kap? Really? C'mon, that shit is solo'able to 37.

Putting myself in the shoes of Faggot A, I would reimburse a percent. If shit fucked up and Kap got 75% of the way there, then I would only give back 25% (if generous) to 15%, and offer next burn that he can tag on for however much was the remainder of.

This is kinda stupid though on both Faggot A for being greedy enough to tarnish his rep over what I'm guessing was a few hundred thousand gil and on Kap for actually paying for AB. I have no idea why people pay for Astral Burns either.

[Angel of Enders]

I like how this dude will forever be known as Faggot A for the rest of his FFXI life.

[Renee]

i dont see why should vet give the gil back. the guy is intensionally fuck up the pull, and will be keep doing it. i don't see the chance to level up to 37 of you. Plus that's fucking stupid to ask for 150k back, because usually the FMV for 1 pull is 150k. since you have 1 successful burn. i dont care about your fucking contract. but to be fair, a guy help you for 5 hours, and now you trying to make some stupid fraud?

[Scrye]

[Sefadin]

My reply to all of this is "aww muffin".
Carry on.

[Cream Soda]

Renee, on 21 November 2009 - 01:09 AM, said:

i dont see why should vet give the gil back. the guy is intensionally fuck up the pull, and will be keep doing it. i don't see the chance to level up to 37 of you. Plus that's fucking stupid to ask for 150k back, because usually the FMV for 1 pull is 150k. since you have 1 successful burn. i dont care about your fucking contract. but to be fair, a guy help you for 5 hours, and now you trying to make some stupid fraud?

It was a fraud. The best way to go about it imo is to take the number of lvs from 37, and give back that much money.

So let's say you're lv 10, you pay 500k to lv 37 for exapmle. Something gets fucked up and in the end you're lv 30. 27 lvs, 500k. 500/27 = 18k per level. You get lv 30 instead of 37, seven levels short. 7 x 18k = 126k returned, but to say someone fucked up the pull so fuck you you're shit outta luck, yes, warrants a player warning.

So yes, Vetra is a douche, but like I said earlier, Kaparu is an idiot for paying in advanced.

Now, if the deal was to pay Vet after the smn burn and Kap says well i didn't get lv 37, so I'm not paying you anything, you wouldn't be here talking about the same "I don't care about your fucking contract" bullshit, now would yoU?

[Cream Soda]

That's like hiring someone to do roofing at your house, they get 90% of the way done and it starts to rain. "Well it rained, so I'm not gonna finish, or give you 10% of your money back" retarded logic

[Cicerox]

Screwing someone over money is one of the worst things you can do for reputation. Definitely with SMN burns. However, though the pulling itself is easy, for some reason it comes with a lot of aggression in participating players. The pullers and leaders believe they own the zone, so people fuck up their pulls, and rightly so. It's happened to me and i was put down a peg or two. He shouldn't give back the money, he should just get him lvl 37, because a pull is only 20 minutes.

[Punicesvir]

Who cares. If you are stupid enough to pay for this shit you asked for it. QQ moar

[Sefadin]

Real life you can sue the person for breach of contract, you can't sue someone on FFXI for being a douchewaffle.
Or doucherocket.
Whichever funny insult you prefer.
I prefer douchewaffle because waffles are quite scrumptious.
However, it is your pick.

On another, better note, I saw ZZ Top tonight and it was friggin' fantastic.

[juth]

only 150k for leech spot to 37??? if i were vetraubent i would charge him 150k/pull.
vegetto ask ur friend if he can dlvl to what he was before, i pay him 150k back +150k bonus.

[Angel of Enders]

Sefadin, on 22 November 2009 - 03:44 AM, said:

Real life you can sue the person for breach of contract, you can't sue someone on FFXI for being a douchewaffle.
Or doucherocket.
Whichever funny insult you prefer.
I prefer douchewaffle because waffles are quite scrumptious.
However, it is your pick.

On another, better note, I saw ZZ Top tonight and it was friggin' fantastic.

I don't think anyone had a doubt in their mind that you liked bacon. Especially when you guys probably have the purest syrup on this side of the hemisphere.

[fyreus]

Renee, on 21 November 2009 - 06:09 AM, said:

i dont see why should vet give the gil back. the guy is intensionally fuck up the pull, and will be keep doing it. i don't see the chance to level up to 37 of you. Plus that's fucking stupid to ask for 150k back, because usually the FMV for 1 pull is 150k. since you have 1 successful burn. i dont care about your fucking contract. but to be fair, a guy help you for 5 hours, and now you trying to make some stupid fraud?

How many people here know Renee = Vet?

Hands?

[Phlow]

Cream Soda, on 21 November 2009 - 05:30 PM, said:

So let's say you're lv 10, you pay 500k to lv 37 for exapmle. Something gets fucked up and in the end you're lv 30. 27 lvs, 500k. 500/27 = 18k per level. You get lv 30 instead of 37, seven levels short. 7 x 18k = 126k returned, but to say someone fucked up the pull so fuck you you're shit outta luck, yes, warrants a player warning.

So yes, Vetra is a douche, but like I said earlier, Kaparu is an idiot for paying in advanced.

Actually, that payout structure would heavily favor the lower levels (and alternatively, the guy that levels you and doesn't complete the work) as it takes like... ~2k to get to level 11, but ~5k to get to 30's. Regardless, 500k is a stupid thing to lose your reputation over. Go steal an LS bank for like 20m or something, then hop servers.

[fyreus]

Didn't she come back?