[Alisha]

harlequin had another 3rd WS instead of magic mortar. theres nothing wrong with it but it seems like a waste for harlequin and makes more sense for stormwalker.

[Silvra]

te be honest I wish the autos were structured a bit more defined.


Harly: DPS MNK style(quicker attacks but not as effective on higher def mobs and HNM etc)
Valor: Co-Tank and DPS DRK/SAM/DRG style(larger attacks but a bit slower, more effective on things with large dehense)
Storm: RDM etc
Soul: WHM
Spirti:BLM


Its sad that we dont see Harly much after level 10.

[Kleiner]

Harle is the only one who can make Magic Mortar useful, but, since nerfing it, the WS a whole is pointless.

I think Harle had potential but, it being the jack of all trades puppet, it's destined to mediocrity. Harle really should be changed, I think. If it could attack twice, a la MNK, and had it's melee skill increased, it could be pretty useful with Knockout. Thing is, SE won't do it because it has healing capabilities, and SE won't completely redefine the puppet.

[Sakka_Valefor]

Kleiner, on 24 November 2009 - 11:31 AM, said:

Harle is the only one who can make Magic Mortar useful, but, since nerfing it, the WS a whole is pointless.

I think Harle had potential but, it being the jack of all trades puppet, it's destined to mediocrity. Harle really should be changed, I think. If it could attack twice, a la MNK, and had it's melee skill increased, it could be pretty useful with Knockout. Thing is, SE won't do it because it has healing capabilities, and SE won't completely redefine the puppet.

hi2u ws points.

[Alisha]

Sakka_Valefor, on 24 November 2009 - 02:19 PM, said:

hi2u ws points.

i would just like to have another Blud WS for it for fighting blud weak mobs. perhaps an 8 hit WS =P

[Kintups]

i wish... automatons would benefit from sambas

[Kleiner]

They should. They used to, for about thespan of three days. Then SE says

"We apologize for nay inconvenience this has caused"

and took it away.

It's infuriating. SE is terrified of making pet jobs too good, instead they want SAM to have that spot.

[Chocoburger]

SAM is the best pet job in the game bar none!

[Suljin]

Kleiner, on 24 November 2009 - 07:54 PM, said:

They should. They used to, for about thespan of three days. Then SE says

"We apologize for nay inconvenience this has caused"

and took it away.

It's infuriating. SE is terrified of making pet jobs too good, instead they want SAM to have that spot.

remember those few days when it would cast non stop like a human does and we all thought it was SE's way of making the harle usefull again? Oh wait that was a programming error . . . oops.

[Silvra]

Seems anytime theres a really useful game mechanic that we enjoy the up and nerf it away. So we should start complimenting SE on things like spell lock and overly powerful mobs. WE LOVE THAT IT TAKES 10MINS TO KILL AN EP AFTER LEVEL 50

[Kleiner]

Chocoburger, on 25 November 2009 - 12:14 AM, said:

SAM is the best pet job in the game bar none!

their pet is their Hagun.

[Silvra]

Kleiner, on 25 November 2009 - 09:29 AM, said:

their pet is their Hagun.

this LOL

[Auraeon]

They should make an attachment that gives TP Bonus (+100%) and Auto-regain with 10% TP per tick with one Fire Maneuver, 15% with two, and 20% with three.


My logic behind this:

Spoiler

Linkshell events:

It would help Magic Mortar a little more, along with Cannibal Blade to make PUP much more useful endgame by not having to feed the enemy TP and still put out decent damage with a frame that can actually survive AoE and do damage + heal itself at the same time. It would also make Knockout more viable as an alternative to Feint when it isn't readily available. It also gives a tad bit of potential to Bone Crusher's stun effect. None of an automaton's weaponskills directly benefit from TP in a huge way, therefore the TP Bonus is just to increase efficiency of the weaponskills like Magic Mortar and Cannibal Blade. In the case of the latter, it's more about adding up more damage over time, since otherwise no one would ever use Cannibal Blade with that extra TP without a TP Bonus doing it for them. Not to mention, automatons automatically use TP at 100% by default.

Merit parties:

It wouldn't affect Armor Piercer much since it just ignores more defense with more TP, but allowing more Armor Piercers in a shorter time span would make up a tad more for the low attack rating the master has. Even though PUP still wouldn't come close to a good RNG or piercing SAM at Colibri camp.

Mythic weapon:

Since it would be balanced by not being able to keep multiple Fire Maneuvers up consistently without risking overload, Heatsink attachment and Kenkonken would become just that much more useful.

[ZahlSechs]

Alisha, on 24 November 2009 - 09:40 AM, said:

harlequin had another 3rd WS instead of magic mortar. theres nothing wrong with it but it seems like a waste for harlequin and makes more sense for stormwalker.

I just wish they removed the stupid "priorityze WS with maneuver" thing, or at least gave us more intelligent maneuvers. It's so stupid you need Dark for Armor Piercer or Cannibal Blade, sigh

But in the end this is just a worthless detail, compared to the things I'd wish for my PUP to come true

[SolAcension]

I wish do you wish threads wouldnt come up~

[Yhelothur]

SolAcension, on 26 November 2009 - 09:10 PM, said:

I wish do you wish threads wouldnt come up~

^ Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis. ^

[Alisha]

SolAcension, on 26 November 2009 - 09:10 PM, said:

I wish do you wish threads wouldnt come up~

oh please it's not like pups are always asking for new puppets the way summoners are always asking for new avatars. pup is supposed to be a flexible job but it's options for bludgeoning damage are limited. sure you could just use HQ knockout,but knockout doesn't SC well with hth WS.

[Kleiner]

As much as I disdain "I wish for X and Y" threads, at least it's a thread. PUP forums are dead otherwise.

[Kintups]

i wish... pup could use zoolander hat

[Kleiner]

omfg, me too. ;