[Lordgenbu]

Konda, on 19 December 2009 - 07:45 PM, said:

With blau/sirocco, I used skadi legs so I could get 5tp/hit and essentially restore the TP floor.

Then I got X's, which allowed me to use homam and maintain 5tp/hit, but with more haste.

using skadi may shave a single attack round (putting me at 100tp instead of 95) but I dont know how I'd go about the maths to work it out. Besides, have you seen elvaan wearing skadi legs? Homam looks cooler and is a much better colour, as treelo kindly explained earlier.




rap harness: 4%
turban: 5%
dusk gloves+1: 4%
speed belt: 6%
homam legs:3%
homam feet: 3%
=25%

However, THF dont have a defined "TP phase" and "WS phase" like other DDs, swapping gear and using JAs for solo SA, solo TA or feint etc kinda means haste isnt the be-all end-all that it is for some other DDs. Paystyle has the largest impact on a THF's performance. Bonnet is ugly as sin so you still dont have a reason to use it by quoting the previous sentance.

1 off the gear haste cap! Needs a freakin Blitz Ring in there.

[Kimille]

Lordgenbu, on 19 December 2009 - 09:18 PM, said:

1 off the gear haste cap! Needs a freakin Blitz Ring in there.

THF can't use a blitz ring. >_>; WAR / PLD / DRK / BST / DRG onry.

[nefarious.lover]

For the TP calc I used Blau / Thief


Lets face it, most of us are THF at events.


If I had an X's I might use it X's / Thief at events but I'm not really super excited about the work involved in getting one, when I use solo oriented weapons and setups solo, and Thief knife at events.

[Shamaya]

Psht, I use thf for just about anything and everything /(^^)/

[Tikki]

Kimille, on 09 December 2009 - 08:31 PM, said:

Heh. I get invited to go as whatever job to afk, so that things would pop and/or drop. What's sad is, I have TH2+2 too. RDM TH is go.

This is scarily true. Kimille going AFK is far more powerful than any JP button or TH.

[Arcsol]

Shamaya, on 20 December 2009 - 10:27 PM, said:

Psht, I use thf for just about anything and everything /(^^)/

Maybe I'll be that lucky once I finish up my Mandau.....in a few months ....until then I'll be RDM or BLM for pretty much everything. Thanks for the clarification there Nef on the mathS. I generally get a SAM roll when I merit on THF or burn Carbonara so I haven't really had to pay much attention to the mathS. BTW Konda, why is it mathS?

[treelo]

You don't need a mandau to use THF all the time, just being sufficiently badass will do the trick. Being incredibly stubborn helps as well of course.

It is maths because we're speaking English, not the bastardisation known as American English. Cue Pathfinder.

[pathwriter]

Why do people get my handle wrong so consistently? At any rate, American English retains more of the original structure of English than British English does. Make of that what you will. Anyhow, if we're speaking British English, wouldn't it be "maffs"?

[Konda]

treelo, on 21 December 2009 - 07:30 AM, said:

It is maths because we're speaking English, not the bastardisation known as American English. Cue Pathfinder.

this


Let's look at what you're abbreviating.... Mathematics; not Mathematic as the american abbreviation suggests.
Mathematics is plural. When abbreviating, it's still plural. So therefore it's maths and not math.

You can't say anything which argues with this without relying on stupidity as an excuse because it's completely logical.

People saying "math" irks me almost as much as people who say your instead of you're. (if you can replace it with you are, it's you're. the ' signifies the a that's been removed.)

On a related note, it's day/month/year for dates. it goes shortest to longest.
month/day/year makes absolutly no sense, and it's only americans that do it. The rest of the world has thier head on straight.

/rant

[pathwriter]

Konda, on 21 December 2009 - 08:04 AM, said:

month/day/year makes absolutly no sense

Do you say "July thirtieth" or "Thirty/thirtieth July"? The day-month-year format only makes sense in... FRENCH (trente juillet) and other Italic languages.

Pretty sure the reason why we dropped the plural -s from "maths" is because we made it into a verb, too. I could be wrong, though, don't feel like trying to dig up that bit of trivia.

[Konda]

I say 9th of june, 11th of september, 9th of november etc.

edit: I guess this has a lot to with how you were brought up and what other people say around you. They are essentially the same thing when talking, but it definatly gets confusing when written.

I think the main reason americans use month/day format is because of 11th of september 9/11 matching the emergancy phone number.
when people mention 9/11, I'm often confused as nothing much special happened on the 9th of november.

[pathwriter]

I hope you're high as a kite, drunk out of your mind, or just seriously insomniac right now. We've been using month-day-year format for at least as long as I've been alive and it has bloody nothing to do with the attacks in 2001.

[Arcsol]

treelo, on 21 December 2009 - 07:30 AM, said:

You don't need a mandau to use THF all the time, just being sufficiently badass will do the trick. Being incredibly stubborn helps as well of course.

It is maths because we're speaking English, not the bastardisation known as American English. Cue Pathfinder.

I am engrish so there's that reasoning of why I say math. No amount of arrogance gets me to go THF more to events though. No matter the amount of kicking and screaming that I am by far the best THF in the LS, I also am an extremely good RDM which "Is more important than a THF Arc". or so I keep getting told. <_> LIES I SAY.

Day/month/year topic made me lulz though XD

[treelo]

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Why do people get my handle wrong so consistently?

I didn't even notice, I was only half paying attention and listening to a documentary about Bomber Command at the same time.

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American English retains more of the original structure of English than British English does. Make of that what you will. Anyhow, if we're speaking British English, wouldn't it be "maffs"?

Argue all you want, it's our language and even if you are keeping it closer to the original (which is german basically, oh the irony), it's still OURS and you're doing naughty things with it. Maffs sounds about right, as far as speech goes. It always amused me how the inbred motherfuckers near where I used to live would pronounce Bedwroth as Beduff, to the extent that it became the semi-official name of the shithole.

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Do you say "July thirtieth" or "Thirty/thirtieth July"? The day-month-year format only makes sense in... FRENCH (trente juillet) and other Italic languages.

I use both when speaking, depends on which sounds better. As far as text goes, we conform to the DD/MM/YY format.

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I'm often confused as nothing much special happened on the 9th of november.

Two days before Remembrance Day, maybe they're trying to drop subtle hints! The whole 9/11 thing is part of the vast conspiracy against the American public. Let's face it though, 11/9 doesn't quite have the same ring to it, much like the 7/7 bombings in England, can't deny that terrorists (OR THE GOVERNMENT DEPENDING ON WHICH BOOKS YOU READ) know how to pick the right days for their attacks.

[NikosThePLDMan]

The US Military uses DD/MMM/YY for all official forms and such.

[Shamaya]

I'm not from the UK but 'maffs' sounds London to me. I like that accent, but indeed maffs does sound like something that Simple Jack would say.

Getting to go Thf definitely depends largely on your LS. In my last einherjar shell, I tried to act humble but they worshiped the mandau (and another person's amano) as if they were golden idols. Usually that doesn't happen, actually. In my endgame shell, they ask me to go Thf quite often, but I go as other jobs plenty. In my last shell, even post-mandau I was constantly asked to go bard. But in Salvage I go thf (sometimes we even do bosses with just Cor, when we have no brd), and for a great lot of the stuff in the game, I can duo it on Thf and my Rdm alt.

[nefarious.lover]

goblin PathFINDER

that's why. >_>

[nefarious.lover]

Competency and familiarity foster comfort, you're comfortable with the dynamic of something working a certain way and just kinda sticking to it, all players I think deal with this even without relics, though I know we certainly keep Arkane on DRK fulltime for the most part, but I also rarely come BRD anymore with TH4, they have a reason to bring me THF to almost everything now, plus the skill factor, not to toot my own horn too much, but I tend to stick out as a player on THF more than most other jobs because your effort can so directly translate into huge leaps in performance.


On that note;

Tanked Jailer of Justice from about 50% to death, ran a constant collab cycle on Arkane, and both tanks got charmed a few times, did a pretty decent job of EVA tanking it. Fucking PLDs with joytoys made shadows difficult between sleeps but it was the most fun I've had in Sea so far.

[pathwriter]

Shamaya, on 21 December 2009 - 09:29 PM, said:

In my last einherjar shell, I tried to act humble but they worshiped the mandau (and another person's amano) as if they were golden idols.

My Salvage group had a Mandau Thief. He has Maat's Cap and, therefore, most other jobs to 75, though largely only the mage jobs are actually geared. He actually seems to prefer playing his White Mage or Summoner, which confuses the hell out of me. I insisted he bring himself on Thief with his Mandau not simply because it was a lot of DPS, though, but also because he's actually competent. I know some people just see a relic weapon and assume that monsters will automatically die because that player is SO GOOD, but when the player actually is good, it feels fucking shameful to ask him to come on something else.