[TresDuendes]

somebody stop me please this game isnt any better than ffxi

[Boldfinger]

I just cancelled my ID's...

[Boldfinger]

Uh... twice.

[Kandi_]

I'm playing Aion again, someone stop me as well, I need to stop playing online games

[TresDuendes]

i'm really not sure why anyone plays mmo's anymore

[Boldfinger]

TresDuendes, on 19 December 2009 - 06:27 PM, said:

i'm really not sure why anyone plays mmo's anymore

I'm just treating facespace as an MMO now. Today I dinged lvl 50 RL troll. Not sure what the LB is yet. Make someone cry I think.

[TresDuendes]

pretty sure you already did that to ald

[sy.ste]

wat are you taking about? Wow is great gem! ffxi is ded, no point cumming back. ther is no futire in ffxi. at lest in wow you hve cataclsm coming.
com to stormrever, we cna level rogues togeter. im alrdy stockin heirbloom items on my rogue. jst need one mor thaste trinket an i be ready to go. we will come to 80 in bris.

[Damo1155]

WOW is about as much fun as watching paint dry in a mud hut house in the middle of a torrential rainstorm... It ain't going to happen.

Now EVE Online, theres a game worth a try at least. If you have the paitience that is, time isn't an issue as training completes whilst you are offline and the account is paid for it just the L2P part which is a bitch.

[sy.ste]

Damo1155, on 30 December 2009 - 05:36 PM, said:

WOW is about as much fun as watching paint dry in a mud hut house in the middle of a torrential rainstorm... It ain't going to happen.

if thats thge kayse how come evrybody an there fiends play woerld of warcraft? prbably bcuase wow is a thausand times btter than deadffxi

[Littlebender]

sy.ste, on 31 December 2009 - 06:13 AM, said:

if thats thge kayse how come evrybody an there fiends play woerld of warcraft? prbably bcuase wow is a thausand times btter than deadffxi

Derf, the recent Phlow and even Dercock's horrible grammar have never managed to piss me off
nearly as much as this cunt's right here... Am I reading a youtube comment right now?
Oh let's not forget Rambus.

[sy.ste]

Littlebender, on 31 December 2009 - 06:32 AM, said:

Derf, the recent Phlow and even Dercock's horrible grammar have never managed to piss me off
nearly as much as this cunt's right here... Am I reading a youtube comment right now?
Oh let's not forget Rambus.

i have cin phlow an his text is awefull. i wondr wat made him stop so low. he use to be a respectd writer

[Damo1155]

sy.ste, on 31 December 2009 - 06:13 AM, said:

if thats thge kayse how come evrybody an there fiends play woerld of warcraft? prbably bcuase wow is a thausand times btter than deadffxi

Because people good sir are sheep and if one person says a game is good and there friend's friend says the game is good then you have a mass epidemic on your hands.

WOW is king at the moment because of word of mouth and advertisement. Not saying people don't like the game but think of the "Comfort Zone" scenario, I have met so many people in my game time who were tired of WOW, thought it was to repettitive, boring and easy unlike the old days.

The game has actually gotten so bad they are starting to recycle old starter dungeons like Deadmines and recap raids like Onyxia's Lair. Now if that doesn't cry out to "Hey guys, we're running out of ideas for new instances and raids. So to hopefully keep you envigorated we're going to recycle all these pixels from vanilla" I don't know what would.

Just because Blizzard have a player base of approximately 11million players doesn't mean most of them are active accounts, nor secondary accounts users have made for duel boxing, likewise not a gold farmer. Taking into account these few factors theres proberly a player base of about 6million (purely hypothetical figures), wasn't this around the same as FFXI had at its peak? Not long after it hit the peak people started dropping the game and the player base dwindled to the point of no return.

Also it does not mean the player base is a happy player base. Simple suggestion would be to say "quit", however it is not as simple as that. Alot of people play WOW because they have nothing else better to do with their time, there are no decent games currently on the market MMO wise which people are interested in. The only two games which are really worth mentioning for release in 2010 is All Points Bulletin (APB) and FFXIV, my opinion on the first one from reviews I have read.

[sy.ste]

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The game has actually gotten so bad they are starting to recycle old starter dungeons like Deadmines and recap raids like Onyxia's Lair. Now if that doesn't cry out to "Hey guys, we're running out of ideas for new instances and raids. So to hopefully keep you envigorated we're going to recycle all these pixels from vanilla" I don't know what would.

well wow is old just like ffxi. wat woud you hav blizzad do? updates like ffxi every 6 months that evn a noob progammer coud hav made on his own in a week or recykel old popular raids an make intersting patches every two months?? i woudnt want the first. it just screams "hi guys this game is dead lol"

[Zombuh]

Damo1155, on 31 December 2009 - 02:33 PM, said:

Because people good sir are sheep and if one person says a game is good and there friend's friend says the game is good then you have a mass epidemic on your hands.

WOW is king at the moment because of word of mouth and advertisement. Not saying people don't like the game but think of the "Comfort Zone" scenario, I have met so many people in my game time who were tired of WOW, thought it was to repettitive, boring and easy unlike the old days.

The game has actually gotten so bad they are starting to recycle old starter dungeons like Deadmines and recap raids like Onyxia's Lair. Now if that doesn't cry out to "Hey guys, we're running out of ideas for new instances and raids. So to hopefully keep you envigorated we're going to recycle all these pixels from vanilla" I don't know what would.

Just because Blizzard have a player base of approximately 11million players doesn't mean most of them are active accounts, nor secondary accounts users have made for duel boxing, likewise not a gold farmer. Taking into account these few factors theres proberly a player base of about 6million (purely hypothetical figures), wasn't this around the same as FFXI had at its peak? Not long after it hit the peak people started dropping the game and the player base dwindled to the point of no return.

Also it does not mean the player base is a happy player base. Simple suggestion would be to say "quit", however it is not as simple as that. Alot of people play WOW because they have nothing else better to do with their time, there are no decent games currently on the market MMO wise which people are interested in. The only two games which are really worth mentioning for release in 2010 is All Points Bulletin (APB) and FFXIV, my opinion on the first one from reviews I have read.

Um...what? That's the same thing. I guess if someone said the game is good without having played it that's one thing, but if they had played it then I'd just call my friend's approval of a game a "good review."

[Damo1155]

sy.ste, on 31 December 2009 - 06:35 PM, said:

well wow is old just like ffxi. wat woud you hav blizzad do? updates like ffxi every 6 months that evn a noob progammer coud hav made on his own in a week or recykel old popular raids an make intersting patches every two months?? i woudnt want the first. it just screams "hi guys this game is dead lol"

Do you even understand what is involved in server wide shut downs?

They have to ensure systems are working adequately, nothing has got into the system over a period of time (viruses and such) etc. To correct you on this, unless there is a patch being implemented onto the server the programmer/s are not going to have jack shit to do with maintenence, thats for the technicians and such.

Its the same in WOW, it was one of the few things I didn't mind and felt was an advantage to having the server split down into continents. When you have everyone from all over the world on the same server, you generally are not going to appease everyone (unless its EVE with one hour daily shut down at 11am GMT). However, with WOW the servers are split so they start the maintenance from early in the morning until about 8 - 9am usually when peak time starts to pick up.

Now the real question should be, why does WOW usually have about 6hours of maintenance? Taking into account FFXI gets it very rarely and EVE Online has it once a day for the maximum of an hour usually, and in most circumstances usually only 15 - 30minutes?

My original comments as well related to the re-use of old dungeons and just re-level capping them as well. Nothing with regards to programming capabilities or maintanence/updates.

Oh and whilst I am on the subject of re-use, you say the "noob progammer" can implement the patches with ease? The first main question is, are you a programmer? If you say yes to this I am going to call your bluff by the way. Second question is, do you even understand the amount of re-coding which needs to go into a patch, no matter how small or big it might be just so it works?

With these questions in mind, I will lower myself to your level of thinking. Considering Blizzard are re-using dungeons and raids and just re-capping the level and difficulty, how much programming would you think the "noob progammer" would have to do? Taking in to account you just called SE a bunch of noob programmers because they don't need to update the game on a more frequent basis with fail patches which re-use in game material to a substantial level.

My query wasn't originally on programming, it was on ideas.

Zombuh, on 31 December 2009 - 06:56 PM, said:

Um...what? That's the same thing. I guess if someone said the game is good without having played it that's one thing, but if they had played it then I'd just call my friend's approval of a game a "good review."

Not necessarily, I had friends from EVE (even some in real life ones as well) reccomend AION when it came out as they had been playing it. After about 3 - 5 days I quit because the game was arduous. Not arduous in a difficulty way but more in a boring concept with all the grinding and thought it would get better over time, it didn't so I quit and for me turned out to be a bad game.

The problem with MMO's or any game for that matter isn't that you had reccomendations from friends, its the possibility said game isn't going to meet your acquired tastes. Yes easy answer is to quit (which I did in AION's case), but for a company each purchase is a good thing as it bumps up their standings.

Edit:

One last thing on Zombuh's comment, I still hold reservations on APB. However, from everything I have read, seen and heard from some BETA testers the game is very polished considering we are only three months away from release. This is why I said APB may be a notable MMOFPS for 2010.

With regards to FFXIV, I played FFXI for about 3 - 4 years. We all also know that Square-Enix can make a good RPG and considering FFXIV is going to have a lot of stuff I am interested in for the game, I hold this again as one of the more notable releases for 2010.

This post has been edited by Damo1155: 01 January 2010 - 04:06 AM

[TresDuendes]

holy fuck gtfo other servers

[Damo1155]

Why though?

Just to make you aware I quit the game about 2 years ago and well... Although it says I belong to Carbuncle, I technically don't exist on any server now. So in reality I am a free roaming spirit with no place to call home.

[sy.ste]

i tought mor hihgly of you elf erlier. but now you hav dissappointed me.

i ment content updates. not like teknikal patches an all that. dont be terribull.

i hav been programming erlier in my life

[Damo1155]

sy.ste, on 01 January 2010 - 10:52 AM, said:

i tought mor hihgly of you elf erlier. but now you hav dissappointed me.

i ment content updates. not like teknikal patches an all that. dont be terribull.

i hav been programming erlier in my life

With regards to the last sentence I would like proof of this. If you were any kind of programmer (good, bad or even a slight knowledge base) you would understand the principles of programming and how much one line or one cock up in a piece of code can have drastic affects across the whole game (this scenario).

I am calling you out on this as for some reason I get the generalised feeling you trying to act 'big' on an Internet forum and make yourself look smart when in essence you are not. Likewise I know I am going to get called the same, but meh it doesn't really matter and in light of this thought I will not comment on those kinds of insults any of you aim at me, pre-empting a counter-attack by the way.

You mentioned on "updates like ffxi every 6 months", based on this it led me to understand you were on about in game fixes of bugs, patches and so on so forth. However, you should have stated what you really meant by content insertion. Added to my last sentence content within most games usually runs at an average rate of 4 - 6 months, whether this is FFXI, EVE, Lineage, AION, WOW or Everquest. Not only does the content have to be programmed and compatible to the client, it also has to undertake rigorous quality checks.

To be honest, I don't even know why I am bothering to respond anymore. Anyone in his right mind can generally tell you can speak fluent English (writing it is another thing) and to try and hide behind said stupidity you use your bad English written skills as an excuse to say you are foreign. Now, if you or someone has some evidence to prove me wrong I will keep that comment in mind.