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Daggermaster, on 16 March 2010 - 10:37 PM, said:

so wait? kiting you dont need movement speed? 5% will greatly effect the outcome of the fight wat? Mahatma slops>any MAB/M.acc+4 augment on those legs. of course PDT MDT Enfeeb skill are all great upgrades, you idiot. If you get gaiters, you obtain the ability to get PDT-4%/whatever else you put on your fucking legs. Why make your legs weaker, when you can get 12% movement speed and have an extra 4% PDT
Edit: when did we become unable to change gear? did they take macros out of the game?

You don't always need movement speed to kite a simple mob in einherjar... that is what I was referencing to your last post.

It 4%, get it right.

I said Mahatma slops is better than any possible augment on the legs? Maybe I missed that somewhere.... Mahatma slops have more use than nuking is what I said.

Why would the legs be weaker? You would need two slots for that specific combo to be worth it, you can't just choose -PDT and one other. Matk+4 and -pdt? So then you would be getting ASA pants augmented so you can marginally beat out Mahatma by a small small amount? lol

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It 4%, get it right.

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Ah, the dire call of a failing argument. Next you'll start correcting my tyops (There I even made one for you).

I called it. Well, not my typos, but whatever. A double post too, sweet.

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Nashira seraweels loss of 1% haste.

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Is he suggesting weaker gear as a replacement again? On top of that something somewhat harder to get.

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.Sotek., on 16 March 2010 - 10:43 PM, said:

I think the question is, do you?

No you do not.



You still wasted the augments on the legs though.

Yes that is the question, but it is directed at you still. Do you know the difference 4% makes? Please explain or prove! Nope not a waste, I saved myself 8~10+ mil for my BLM and gained -4% PDT : )

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Forgotten_Memory, on 16 March 2010 - 10:46 PM, said:

Why would the legs be weaker? You would need two slots for that specific combo to be worth it, you can't just choose -PDT and one other. Matk+4 and -pdt? So then you would be getting ASA pants augmented so you can marginally beat out Mahatma by a small small amount? lol

The legs would be a hell of alot weaker as you would be wasting potentially awesome augments on them. PDT-4% and haste+3 is probably the best to pick for an idle set. If you're a main whm, get the cure+5%, there will always be people who pick stuff that benefits their mains(i.e whm) thats perfectly acceptable, and really isnt the issue. But if you solo on blm or rdm, you better get gaiters or wlegs to make life a shitload easier, and so you can make a sick augment such as PDT-4% and haste+3, the BEST idle legs hands down in the game.

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.Sotek., on 16 March 2010 - 10:49 PM, said:

Is he suggesting weaker gear as a replacement again? On top of that something somewhat harder to get.

lol how it is harder to get? You could even buy it for what 3 mil? As opposed to the 8~10 mil item!

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Forgotten_Memory, on 16 March 2010 - 10:48 PM, said:

Nashira seraweels loss of 1% haste.

no movement speed at all, and 1% makes a difference between 23 and 22 second recast

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Daggermaster, on 16 March 2010 - 10:50 PM, said:

The legs would be a hell of alot weaker as you would be wasting potentially awesome augments on them. PDT-4% and haste+3 is probably the best to pick for an idle set. If you're a main whm, get the cure+5%, there will always be people who pick stuff that benefits their mains(i.e whm) thats perfectly acceptable, and really isnt the issue. But if you solo on blm or rdm, you better get gaiters or wlegs to make life a shitload easier, and so you can make a sick augment such as PDT-4% and haste+3, the BEST idle legs hands down in the game.

Or you could get movement speed AND -pdt on the same peice and open up your feet for another -2% PDT which would be better in various situations.

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Forgotten_Memory, on 16 March 2010 - 10:51 PM, said:

lol how it is harder to get? You could even buy it for what 3 mil? As opposed to the 8~10 mil item!

or you could just do limbus, ultima isnt hard. neither is tia or kirin.

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Forgotten_Memory, on 16 March 2010 - 10:52 PM, said:

Or you could get movement speed AND -pdt on the same peice and open up your feet for another -2% PDT which would be better in various situations.

PDT on blm feet? what?

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Daggermaster, on 16 March 2010 - 10:52 PM, said:

no movement speed at all, and 1% makes a difference between 23 and 22 second recast

For what? Utsusemi in a haste/fast cast build, ok HQ dusk then.

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Daggermaster, on 16 March 2010 - 10:52 PM, said:

or you could just do limbus, ultima isnt hard. neither is tia or kirin.

Except limbus doesn't require the amount of work a Tia does, or the bots.

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Forgotten_Memory, on 16 March 2010 - 10:54 PM, said:

For what? Utsusemi in a haste/fast cast build, ok HQ dusk then.

cause dusk+1 is hard to get right? Only thing im missing is v.belt and dusk gloves+1 (0/10 on synths atm) and rdm af2 body for precast.

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Daggermaster, on 16 March 2010 - 10:53 PM, said:

PDT on blm feet? what?

Was referring to RDM, why would you need a full blown haste build for blm that requires every single marginal upgrade. You aren't depending on utsusemi for most BLM solo's because you aren't straight tanking. Even so, it is marginal in most cases.

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Forgotten_Memory, on 16 March 2010 - 10:55 PM, said:

Except limbus doesn't require the amount of work a Tia does, or the bots.

you cant check on a mob every 1 hour interval? Limbus requires almost no work, its a complete joke. try again

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Forgotten_Memory, on 16 March 2010 - 10:56 PM, said:

Was referring to RDM, why would you need a full blown haste build for blm that requires every single marginal upgrade. You aren't depending on utsusemi for most BLM solo's because you aren't straight tanking. Even so, it is marginal in most cases.

It adds up. BLM/NIN for lowman shit(like prudence ix'mnk ix'drk faith, fort solo) can require your timers to not be completely shitty.

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Daggermaster, on 16 March 2010 - 10:56 PM, said:

you cant check on a mob every 1 hour interval? Limbus requires almost no work, its a complete joke. try again

You mean your bots? Not everyone has a mule they let sit there with the bots up to spam in ls chat when it pops lol. Those mob are always camped and monopolized, limbus is easier. I never said it required a lot of work, stop putting words in my mouth.

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Daggermaster, on 16 March 2010 - 10:58 PM, said:

It adds up. BLM/NIN for lowman shit(like prudence ix'mnk ix'drk faith, fort solo) can require your timers to not be completely shitty.

lol seriously? Ix'mnk that you can kite indefinitely (WITHOUT movement speed gear I might add...) needs a full blown haste build? Ix'drk which is in the same boat as mnk? Geeze you must be very bad at blm then.

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Forgotten_Memory, on 16 March 2010 - 10:58 PM, said:

You mean your bots? Not everyone has a mule they let sit there with the bots up to spam in ls chat when it pops lol. Those mob are always camped and monopolized, limbus is easier. I never said it required a lot of work, stop putting words in my mouth.

You cant check a mob every hour manually? I had no idea that it was that difficult....