[Some Galka Guy]

I know theres a thread about this already, but its shitted up with worthless posts. Is there actually any difference between magic attack+ and magic attack bonus?

[Bikpik]

Some Galka Guy, on 04 February 2010 - 07:42 AM, said:

I know theres a thread about this already, but its shitted up with worthless posts. Is there actually any difference between magic attack+ and magic attack bonus?

http://killingifrit....ost__p__3827782

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Conclusion:
Havent tested overly thoroughly, but enough to see that the 5matk is /probably/ acting like mab. Any suggestions of additional tests i'll be happy to carry out.
Gun is nice for Light/Dark due to macc (if you are a believer*), but HQ cor will beat it for damage.

*if you dont believe macc helps, dont go posting here amg amg macc does nothing, if you want me to listen to you, go light shot a goldfish naked 300 times without war roll, 300 times with, post your results and show that it made no difference and i may pay attention)

**If you dont agree with the formula used, go try it yourself using that exact formula and you will see matching numbers (unless you get resisted, this is a max damage formula not a d.o.t one).

[Some Galka Guy]

Bikpik, on 04 February 2010 - 08:01 AM, said:

http://killingifrit....ost__p__3827782

Havent tested overly thoroughly, but enough to see that the 5matk is /probably/ acting like mab

id like to hear from more than one or two sources

[Bikpik]

Some Galka Guy, on 04 February 2010 - 08:18 AM, said:

Havent tested overly thoroughly, but enough to see that the 5matk is /probably/ acting like mab

id like to hear from more than one or two sources

So would I actually, but I've been more concerned about getting a Lyft Hexagun (0/3 so far) than this.

[Corrderio]

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Magic Attack is specific to the Blue Mage and Corsair jobs. For Blue Mage, it is applied via the Job Ability Convergence.

Unlike Magic Attack Bonus, which augments the potency of all offensive magic, Quick Draw, and certain Weaponskills, Magic Attack is a direct percentage increase in magical Blue Magic spell damage. For offensive magical spells that are unaffected by the 7 primary attributes, such as Heat Breath and 1000 Needles, each point of Convergence adds a 5% direct damage increase, with a maximum of 25% additional damage under a fully merited Convergence.

Magic attack can only be applied to magical Blue Magic spells; it does not affect physical Blue Magic.

The only item in the game that adds to a character's Magic Attack directly is Veuglaire, a Corsair's gun.

Sauce: http://wiki.ffxiclop...ki/Magic_Attack

[Some Galka Guy]

maybe this is just a misprint then... >_> doesnt look like anything else

[Kleiner]

Sounds like it's just a flat +5% damage increase to Quick Draw, similar to BLU's convergence. Obviously it's intended to be a Quick Draw gun.. So assuming the highest base damage you can get is 41 (2 if HQ) plus 70 from bullet, compared to 35+70 from bullet.. will the bonus to Magic Attack bonus (and assuming M.ACC affects Quick Draw, which I think it does), will these two together beat out the 7damage increase of the Corsair's Gun?

[Corrderio]

From what people said Corsair's Gun will still do more damage, but this gun is great for resistant mobs.

[Daiiawn_]

Kleiner, on 04 February 2010 - 04:06 PM, said:

Sounds like it's just a flat +5% damage increase to Quick Draw, similar to BLU's convergence. Obviously it's intended to be a Quick Draw gun.. So assuming the highest base damage you can get is 41 (2 if HQ) plus 70 from bullet, compared to 35+70 from bullet.. will the bonus to Magic Attack bonus (and assuming M.ACC affects Quick Draw, which I think it does), will these two together beat out the 7damage increase of the Corsair's Gun?

Have you even bothered to read my post in the previous thread? It is NOT a flat +5% damage. I have been unable to see any difference between this and 5mab. There really was no need for a new thread on this, sure there is shit in the other thread, but not so much that the relevant information is hard to find. Ive used this gun some more and every test i have done has showed the 5matk acting exactly like 5mab.

This gun is not a QD damage gun for a 75 corsair, Corsair's gun (and +1) will beat it. It is however a decent light/dark shot gun.

**Also if you want to hear this from more than 1 or 2 sources, go get the gun and test it yourself rather than waiting for someone else to do the work >.>

This post has been edited by Daiiawn_: 05 February 2010 - 06:33 AM

[Kleiner]

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Have you even bothered to read my post in the previous thread? It is NOT a flat +5% damage.

No, actually, I haven't. Because I don't really read corsair forums that often. Everything I said was speculation, and I ended the thing WITH A QUESTION. So it's kind of obvious I wasn't trying to ANSWER the thread. Don't fucking attack me because someone ELSE made a thread about a gun and I havent seen the other one.

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This gun is not a QD damage gun for a 75 corsair, Corsair's gun (and +1) will beat it

I didn't say it was, but thank you for answering my question.

Shit.

This post has been edited by Kleiner: 05 February 2010 - 11:00 AM

[Ezekial]

Magic Accuracy does not effect quick draw accuracy.

[Evilswine]

Prove it.

w/o a proof dont say it does.

[Daiiawn_]

^ that!

Sick of seeing you pop up in random threads only to offer that BS without any kind of proof. If you want to post "There is no concrete proof that macc affects QD" then fine, fill your boots. But dont go saying something as though it is undisputable fact, because some upcoming corsairs may read it and take it to be fact. If you choose not to believe it affects it, thats fine, but dont go forcing your belief's on to others without proof.

This post has been edited by Daiiawn_: 09 February 2010 - 10:26 AM

[Corrderio]

It's best to just ignore him

[Daiiawn_]

I know that, you know that, but someone who is in the process of leveling cor and hasnt got QD yet, unfortunatly may not know that

[Corrderio]

Not like there's any M.Acc gear for COR at that level in the first place

[Nath]

I'v come to the conclusion he must be trolling, so i dont bother with him anymore lol