[Whitney]

Granted, Mnk is only 46 atm (Quu Domi finally dropped those freaking boots so I can continue now!...what? I wanted rare/ex and to save 400k!), but I was starting to think about a few things come 70+

I don't have togi (no shura atm actually, sadly, and no ls atm either, nor the time for an endgame shell for a while now), and mirke goes to my Cor, but until I can get my hands on something better, what do you suggest?

SH+1 is an obvious one, though I was wondering about pahl. body with Destroyers (which, hopefully, I will get to drop soon...) for critical focus (macroing in SH+1 for 'o-shit' macro) - 2 less acc, I know, but assuming here that I am not having any real acc issues on whatever it is I am fighting at the time, would this be passable? *Note, I have 4/4 crit as well*

As for legs, I do have byakkos waiting for tp build, haven't looked much into ws just yet, though.

Am I missing any other obvious (and reasonably obtained) alternatives until I can get something better? I don't foresee a lot of time on Mnk given that I have 10 other 75's atm, but I'd like to at least be able to gear up for salvage or something without being completely embarrassed!

A silly musing on my part, I should probably stick with the 2 acc extra on SH+1 for now, just wondering if the former has been tried by anyone before they had shura
*I would also never advocate choosing a small crit increase over 2 acc in most any situation, this is only assuming you are not at all lacking in acc to begin with on a mob with low evasion*
*note to self, don't post when you have had 0 hours of sleep, you end up rambling incoherently*

This post has been edited by Whitney: 24 February 2010 - 10:32 AM

[Yhelothur]

Mirke Waldecors when you hit 75 is my recommendation, but if that's not available to you, there's always Enkidu's Harness which you could buy from a LS at a small cost. Hell, for that matter, you've already mentioned SH+1, and you've got a long ways to go. Just use that until you hit 75, and by that point you might have a better grasp on what's available for you.

[shadowdereapz]

Personally, I rocked a SH till I got my togi. Could always merc kirin pops for a togi, or find a shell that will sell you enkidu body.

[Taint]

Bump....just got MNK to 75, and will be using my MNK for Soloing/Salvage only.

I have solid gear otherwise.

Turban,PCC/terciel,ethereal,brutal,Okote,raja,mars's,cuch/cerb+1,Brown(need egg for black),haidate,usukane

Should I use Osode or buy a SH+1? Just need turtle to put out, looking for a temp body. Pretty much limited to the AH until usubody.

[Kaparu]

Just use Osode

[Cyprias]

Might want to squeeze in a N.kote too. Wouldn't think you'd have H2H merits with your other jobs in mind.

[SolAcension]

lolosode. Use Antares or sh+1.

[Yhelothur]

Osode is acceptable.

[Taint]

Cyprias, on 20 May 2010 - 01:04 PM, said:

Might want to squeeze in a N.kote too. Wouldn't think you'd have H2H merits with your other jobs in mind.

Yeah no H2H merits, SE really needs to raise the total cap...20 is way too restricting. Ill grab an Nkote, luckily we kill Tia on a regular basis or I could head back to ZR...really hate that zone.

[Kaparu]

SolAcension, on 20 May 2010 - 02:51 PM, said:

lolosode. Use Antares or sh+1.

Another Maat's Cap with no idea what they're talking about, shocking.

[TresDuendes]

Taint, on 20 May 2010 - 09:16 AM, said:

will be using my MNK for Soloing/Salvage only.

In case anyone else missed it before they put their foot in their mouth.

[pathwriter]

Taint, on 20 May 2010 - 03:18 PM, said:

Yeah no H2H merits, SE really needs to raise the total cap...20 is way too restricting.

Good god, no. Merits are already way too costly (and shame on SE for making the grind for them a substitute for real gameplay). If they upped the limit or removed it entirely, then people would feel compelled to go and collect more and more of them, turning them into incredibly expensive experience levels, which is what they practically are, anyhow. Instead of spending ~50k XP to get 1 STR, 1 DEX, 2 VIT, 1 AGI, 5 Hand-to-Hand skill, and 9 HP, though, we're made to spend several million XP to get the same and still suffer the level correction penalty. The last thing people need is more mindless grind... "Oh, by the way," says Square-Enix, "here are those 24 levels of experience you should've already had. Enjoy grinding that out on your half-dozen level 75 jobs that you use regularly."

[Littlebender]

Kaparu, on 20 May 2010 - 03:27 PM, said:

Another Maat's Cap with no idea what they're talking about, shocking.

From the looks of his avatar he's also a furry. Yiff in hell fur fag.

[Taint]

pathwriter, on 22 May 2010 - 08:42 AM, said:

Good god, no. Merits are already way too costly (and shame on SE for making the grind for them a substitute for real gameplay). If they upped the limit or removed it entirely, then people would feel compelled to go and collect more and more of them, turning them into incredibly expensive experience levels, which is what they practically are, anyhow. Instead of spending ~50k XP to get 1 STR, 1 DEX, 2 VIT, 1 AGI, 5 Hand-to-Hand skill, and 9 HP, though, we're made to spend several million XP to get the same and still suffer the level correction penalty. The last thing people need is more mindless grind... "Oh, by the way," says Square-Enix, "here are those 24 levels of experience you should've already had. Enjoy grinding that out on your half-dozen level 75 jobs that you use regularly."

Never really thought of it that way. Really sucks for people like me that have juggled weapon merits around dozens of times. I've had capped axe,capped GS, capped sword, capped shield...all of which are at 0 right now

[SolAcension]

I'm allowed my own opinion, and I will always feel that tping in an osode is trash. There are better options, if you don't really care about what you are wearing, and you are going to get a better body anyway, then sure use an osode, but there are still other easily obtainable options.

Maybe it's not that I don't know what I'm talking about, but trolling a forum makes you feel like you do.

Also, judging from my profile pic, I'd assume I'm a mithra. Good job there.

This post has been edited by SolAcension: 22 May 2010 - 07:39 PM

[Kaparu]

There's no such thing as an opinion regarding equipment. You're wrong, and Kirin's Osode is a fine alternative for monk. People used to say it was terrible because they were working off assumptions, and didn't know any better. Is it the best there is? Of course not, but if you think its bad, you're completely wrong.

Now go away.

[pathwriter]

There was no "assumption" that Kirin's Osode was bad, it was demonstrated regularly and definitively. What has changed is the addition of an event with very low gear requirements (because you're expected to be partially unclothed through most of it) and Marinara Pizza as a bandage for Square-Enix's inability to balance its own content. Oh, and the proliferation of the backline (to facilitate that godawful merit grind I mentioned above) means that people simply assume they'll have a Bard to cover for their shortcomings, whereas several years ago that was hardly the case.

[Kaparu]

Through what? Parses? Kirin's Osode provides a significant boost to fSTR(and any monk that isn't in full-Usukane is likely to benefit from it more than most people/jobs), 5 Acc, 5 Attk, and anywhere from a 2% to 10% increase in critical hit-rate(pending dDEX beforehand).

Again, its not the best, but its not bad by any stretch of the imagination.

[Littlebender]

Sup.

[pathwriter]

Kaparu, on 23 May 2010 - 01:47 PM, said:

Again, its not the best, but its not bad by any stretch of the imagination.

It's bottom of the pile, which makes it bad by comparison. It's not like wearing a Power Gi at level 75, but if something is going to be at the top, something else will be at the bottom, as I'm sure you know.

That said, I never disagreed with your statement to use the rutting thing if all someone is doing is Salvage. The attitude you are staring down from Mr Furry McYiff is one based on older conclusions tested both in theorycraft and parsing back when there was a sushi-versus-meat debate and the targets people cared about were stronger than certain pink birds. Salvage is pink birds as far as mob difficulty is concerned, so go ahead and use the Osode if that's what you have. I question the conclusion about dDEX, though, at least against Chariots.