[Varizen]

Either way. I think they'll make them worth it. Plus it gives people reason to use AF for something other than free Avatars. Plus I'm thinking they'll be VERY impressive with loads of MP. Like ultra powerful Sentinel AoE for Alex. I'm also figuring you can get a lot more than 2 hours out of them during their time. That's me though.

[spira]

well the 2 new avatars are nice. i mean.. i've been waiting to see them for ages. just knowing we can summon them is a joy to me. And we don't really use Astral Flow to begin with. Perfect Defense is great for zergs and BCs.. as for Zantetsuken.. well.. i'm not so sure about that. Would be nice to see it vs single mobs... damage wise.. or acc wise.. excellent for semi-ohshit situations really.

As for the lv99 thing.. oh boy. this'll be interesting. I hope they give us new bombs LOL.. SMN pt gogo. There are bound to be new abilities. I heard the dev saying in japanese that they're considering another avatar for the upper caps, bearing in mind the new style of avatars in Alex and Odin don't remove its prestige as being powerful. thats a pretty big hint at who they're talking about...

we will probably get new abilites.. but even if we don't, remember that our avatars still scale by level. And a level 99 avatar is most definitely more powerful than a Lv75 one. It seems like the level cap raise isn't coming so soon.. probably in July.

but anyway.. good time to prepare your subjobs. WHM, RDM, SCH... i'd say RDM is a lot stronger now with Refresh and Convert... not to mention how powerful SMN pts will be now. /COR roll, /RDM for refresh/vert and /BRD for 1 more tic, on top of possible Favor by Diabolos... then again we don't know if they'll increase perp cost..

a lot ahead of the game now.. i'm very excited

[Speltz]

Stormspells, too. I think. But fresh, etc would take care of that.

This post has been edited by Speltz: 28 February 2010 - 03:29 AM

[Alkar]

Yeah I'm excited as well Spira.. and that hint towards Bahamut is even better lol. A whole new game is coming.
I just hope they raise the exp gained from monsters.
/rdm is gonna be THE sub for SMN soon enough. Refresh+ Convert will really help unless they're nerfed when used as /rdm (most likely it'll happen).
Also PUP skill going from C to A is really nice.. and all the new spells we'll learn between 75 and 99. I guess Meteor will be available soon enough. We need new camps though, new expansion coming for sure.

[Varizen]

Actually... what was that sound I just heard? Was it the door opening for getting Bahamut as a summon? I believe it was. He'll probably end up as a 2hr summon as well.

[Varizen]

Spells you know you'll see will include the Tier V nukes, Probably AMIII at 99 merits, Never before seen nukes, New debuff abilities and spells. RDM may get Amnesia Cure will probably go up to VII or VIII. Summoners will more than likely get a ton of new buffs and debuffs as well. Especially debuffs. But there will probably be a Hastega II, a Piercing BP, and some other baller shit.

[Alkar]

Tanaka just played a new trailer announcing three new high-level battle area add-ons, called “Abyssea”.
All set in Walk of Echoes apparently. We're going to have to buy these?
Enjoy your new Dynamis, they're showing AF3 I think.
Abyssea will be very different from Dynamis in that you can do these areas with one full party.
First coming in June, second in September, last in December.
AF3 are completely new looking, not palette swaps like AF2 btw.

This post has been edited by Alkar: 28 February 2010 - 03:45 AM

[Killataru]

The way I see the new avatars news is in one of two views.

First view is the we're completely broken, and only a new avatar can save us now. In which case, yup, SE bent you over HARD.

The other is that SMN isn't completely borked, just partially, and this gives us another tool. In which case... who knows. It could wind up being a nice increment in making us useful. These won't be avatars you use to help XP, but perhaps they could be used in Eihinjar <sp?> before the sleepers have their way.

I honestly think the level cap is bigger news, as is the AF3 comment I saw earlier. New gear actually interests me more then avatars. So far I think this patch could be fairly epic.

[spira]

dont get too excited yet.. the first cap raise is in June.
until then you can start preparing your subjobs and so on...

[Pulsahr]

So, just to be sure :
All the subs you exped to get full up-to-date-even-if-you-don't-like-this-sub (like /nin for sam) will have to be exped again, and again, until lvl 49 (and probably have to exp new subs, like rdm for smn) ?
And more importantly :
All the stuff we hardly got through these last years will be completely obsolete after lvl cap raise update ?
How much time will we need to be as efficient at lvl 99 as we are today at lvl 75 ? Probably years. New AF, new upgrade, new whatever. Just stop HLS now, what you have will be obsolete really soon, or need to make crazy quest to be upgraded to lvl 99. (/comfort all relic/mythic owners).

Sorry, but this is a very bad news for me. I'll just drop the game i think (after testing Odin & Alexander once of course).

[Abeox]

wtf. . . lvl 99 cap..rly SE? about fucking time.
What happens to all our merits?

[Alkar]

Merits will probably still be available for all jobs that are 75+. They also mentioned increasing caps for all merit categories (probably the generic ones only but who knows?) and a new merit system for players that reach level 99.
Let's not forget all the new abilities, spells, traits that we're going to get from subjobs+ new levels.
Start exping your rdms
49 is still very easy to reach... the real problem will be 75>99 and I also wonder if we're getting new Genkai quests.
Edit: Forgot this but probably new WSes will appear as well considering all skills will raise with levels.

This post has been edited by Alkar: 28 February 2010 - 06:03 AM

[Tikki]

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I should clarify. The level cap at 99 letting people access hastega and stoneskin via /smn doesn't really worry me.

SCH having access to Accession Haste and Refresh however...

This post has been edited by Tikki: 28 February 2010 - 07:17 AM

[dakpluto]

call my crazy....but after 3+ years of waiting for these avatars....I FUCKING WANT TO IDLE IN THEM AND SHOW THEM OFF.

Seriously SE, WTF...AF only?

"Hi, look at me, I'm a flipping little Odin...Goodbye!"

[Alkar]

RDM will also have access to Accession with the new level cap.
I've been thinking about this though, read this line:

"Be aware, invoking one or the other will automatically initiate Astral Flow, the effect of which will end upon the avatar’s release."

The key word here is release. What I'm trying to say is that in order to summon them you NEED to use AF and once the effect expires they will be released because of the perpetuation cost. What if we recover MP in the meantime?
We'll have access to Convert in a couple updates and we already have Sublimation anyway. Maybe these new avatars won't have other BPs but we MAY be able to use them either way.
With some support (BRD,COR,/RDM,/SCH, Favor, etc.) we can recover MP (which will be 0 after they use their ability) and we can possibly keep them out. That is unless SE makes them release automatically after Astral Flow wears off but the notes say otherwise.
All we have to do is keep them out for the battle/battles we'll use them in but this means we won't be able to change as much as we'd like to. We'll see in 2 weeks but they may have other uses.

[Tikki]

I'll admit, that something resembling 'oldschool summoning' from games past where the summoner calls the avatar/esper/whatever where they come in, do their one kickass ability, then leave, is something I wanted to see. Just, why does it have to be based on our 2hr.

[Corrderio]

DELICIOUS TEARS

Seriously, this has got to be one of the biggest setups in XI histrory.

[Tikki]

Corrderio, on 28 February 2010 - 07:39 AM, said:

DELICIOUS TEARS

Seriously, this has got to be one of the biggest setups in XI histrory.

Enjoy busting all your rolls trying to get this.

COR: Thinking about adding a greater gambling aspect to COR by making XI a special number that enhances roll effects.

[Corrderio]

Just like a COR that subs WHM on a regular basis... any COR that tries that shit needs to stop playing the job or learn to suck less.

[Tikki]

Corrderio, on 28 February 2010 - 08:08 AM, said:

Just like a COR that subs WHM on a regular basis... any COR that tries that shit needs to stop playing the job or learn to suck less.

Makes you wonder though, what their special new bonuses for this will be!