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Returning DRK Gear Check Please

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I'm a returning DRK (only 6 months or so now) and wanted to see if there has been any new gear that stood out for DRK so I could start working on to acquire.

My gear setup for now is:

TP
Weapon: Perdu Sickle
Grip: Pole
Ammo: Fire Bomblet
Head: Walahra Turban
Neck: Peacock
Ear: Brutal
Ear2: Abyssal
Body: Hauby +1
Hands: Dusk
Ring: Rajas
Ring2: Toreador
Back: Forager's
Waist: Swift
Legs: Homam
Feet: Dusk

WS
Weapon: Same
Grip: Same
Ammo: Same
Head: Hecatomb
Neck: Snow gorget
Ear: Same
Ear2: Same
Body: Same
Hands: Chaos +1
Ring: Same
Ring2: Same
Back: Same
Waist: Potent Belt
Legs: Black Cuisses
Feet; Hecatomb

Besides stuff like Homam and +1 upgrades, is there anything new for me to replace? I saw a talk about Sword over Pole, could someone elaborate on that?

Thanks in advance
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View PostOlbohn, on 06 March 2010 - 09:21 AM, said:

Besides stuff like Homam and +1 upgrades, is there anything new for me to replace? I saw a talk about Sword over Pole, could someone elaborate on that?

Thanks in advance


Your gear looks good...and it seems like you know what your obvious upgrades would be. (homam, V-bet/speed belt, torques, +1s etc....)

Your Homam legs are fine, but you could get the Blitzer poleyn legs with Str+2, Haste+3%, and accuracy+7 (from the "A Shantotto Ascension" add-on), which are basically Homam Cosciales+1s for DRG and DRK TP.

Also, you "could" get the Champion's Galea helm from the "A Moogle Kupo d'etat" add-on, and make it your new WS helm with: STR+4, Attack+5, WSacc+15, and Acc+10, that's the best WS helm for multi-hit WSs...and you could make two WS sets with it, one with a lot of ACC+ with this helm and other ACC+ gear for more evasive mobs, and another standard WS set with this helm but dropping acc+ in other slots for more attack+ and more str+ thanks to the acc+25 on WS that this helm has.

For example, on a Standard guillotine set: AMK'd helm(with the augments mentioned above) + Triumph ring + warwolf belt + AF+1 feet + bomb core is better than your current: heca cap + Toreador's ring + potent belt + heca feet + fire bomblet.

since you're comparing:

STR+19, MND+5, Attack+17, and Accuracy+28 (the AMK'd helm with the other gear options mentioned above)

Versus.

STR+20, Attack+6, and Accuracy+26 (your current Heca cap setup)

As for Sword strap Vs Pole grip..... Sword strap is better if and only if it does not break your X-hit build, due to needing more StoreTP because of the -delay%, which reduces your TP per hit.

The -delay% does not work like haste...because haste reduces your delay without adjusting or reducing your TP per hit, but the "Two-handed weapon delay -3%" on the Sword strap reduces your delay AND reduces your TP per hit too.

This post has been edited by Jazz: 31 March 2010 - 08:57 PM

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A big thanks for the great extensive response but I'm a bit undecided upon the add ons reasons being that I have multiple jobs.

I have 75; Rdm, Blm, Pld, Drk, Rng, & close Smn

So when it comes to add ons I like to go with the piece of gear that is the best for out of all 5 jobs, meaning, a piece that can't be simply replaced by another gear piece or is one of a kind. For example, for the first add-on I got the body piece with Fast Cast for my PLD.

I was definitely considering the head piece for my DRK, either that or for my RNG and for the legs I was planning on going for my BLM. Unless, I'm wrong I think the legs are the best for the 5 jobs.

And I'm terrible when it comes to numbers, would using a sword strap break my X hit build? for sub nin and sam?
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View PostOlbohn, on 06 March 2010 - 03:59 PM, said:

A big thanks for the great extensive response but I'm a bit undecided upon the add ons reasons being that I have multiple jobs.

I have 75; Rdm, Blm, Pld, Drk, Rng, & close Smn

So when it comes to add ons I like to go with the piece of gear that is the best for out of all 5 jobs, meaning, a piece that can't be simply replaced by another gear piece or is one of a kind. For example, for the first add-on I got the body piece with Fast Cast for my PLD.

I was definitely considering the head piece for my DRK, either that or for my RNG and for the legs I was planning on going for my BLM. Unless, I'm wrong I think the legs are the best for the 5 jobs.

And I'm terrible when it comes to numbers, would using a sword strap break my X hit build? for sub nin and sam?


No problem, Looking back at your gear, you currently have a 7hit build/5hit rebuild with your Perdu sickle, which means that when going from 0%TP you will get to 100% in 7hits, but after a WS, as long as you can at least land 3+ hits on guillotine, it will take you 5hits to get back to 100% TP.

Finally, using a Sword Strap with Perdu sickle would mean that you would have a 485 weapon delay(501 X0.03 =15.03, 501 -15.03 = 485.97); however, using the formula 13.0 + [(Delay - 480) * 1.5 / 50] you can see that Perdu sickle with sword strap would have a TP per hit of 13.1...which means that you would need 26 StoreTP for TP and 21 StoreTP for WS (you cannot use Rose strap to get the +26 store TP because you can only equip one grip, this also means a lot of sacrifices in other slots like Askar body to get the 26 Store which will definitely make it not worth it in the end because you will lose a lot of accuracy and/or other stats too etc...).

In addition, even if you were somehow able to get the 26 store TP for TP and 21 for WS, this still would not be a "true 6hit build" either, this build would give you a 7hit build from 0% TP and it would give you a 5 hit rebuild after WS as long as you land 3+ hits on Guillotine(the first hit and 2 others).

You could use Sword strap on a 528 delay scythe, like Tredecim Scythe for example if you don't have high enough rank for Perdu yet, because Sword strap does not break your 6 hit with Tredecim scythe since it will make you go from a 528 delay to a 512 delay ...but sword strap is not a grip I would use with Perdu sickle.

All the above was assuming /sam....

so now assuming any other sub besides /sam, 501 delay and zero storeTP with Perdu sickle is an 8hit build... so for /nin, you can't really go for a 6hit but you can make a 7hit build/6hit rebuild with only 6 StoreTP for TP and 6 StoreTP for WS. If you use sword strap it will break your 7hit build too because you will need a lot more StoreTP for it which you cannot get as /nin.

So short version: yes, Sword strap will break your X-hit build with Perdu sickle and trying to make it work(would have to really define the word "work" here though...) will not be worth it.
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Blitz Ring.
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Is the only situtation where you would be using a Blitz where you have capped accuracy or could it be used at lower accs? Like 90 or 85%?
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If you're eating food(Pizza) you should be caped almost on everything besides some mobs, or hnms.
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View PostOlbohn, on 09 March 2010 - 04:46 PM, said:

Is the only situtation where you would be using a Blitz where you have capped accuracy or could it be used at lower accs? Like 90 or 85%?


Blitz ring when you know you have capped accuracy on whatever you are fighting, or on high haste situations when accuracy is 92-93%+ (a "Diabolic Eye up gear set" comes to mind as well...).

Either way, if you know that your accuracy is capped already, adding even more haste is always better, and of course the more you have, the better it gets.

But, if you have this "85%" accuracy rate...no...don't use blitz ring...you need more accuracy.
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I'm also coming back to the game after quite a long break, and would appreciate some advice on builds, and gear to work towards. My account was basically stripped when I quit, so I don't have a lot of the more situational stuff available at the moment.

Currently for TP I'm using the following (other gear I have for the slots is shown in brackets).

Weapon: Perdu Sickle
Grip: Pole Grip
Ammo: Fire Bomblet
Head: W. Turban (Askar Zuchetto/O.Hat/Champions Galea - STR+4 Acc+10 Att+5 WS ACC +15)
Neck: PCC
Earring: Brutal/Abyssal (Assault/Triumph)
Body: Hauberk
Hands: Homam
Rings: Rajas/Ulthalam's (Iota/Sniper+1)
Back: Amemet+1
Belt: Swift Belt
Legs: Homam (Askar)
Feet: Dusk (Amir/Askar)

For WS (Guillo) I'm using the following:

Weapon: Perdu Sickle
Grip: Pole Grip
Ammo: Fire Bomblet
Head: Champions Galea - STR+4 Acc+10 Att+5 WS ACC +15 (Chs. Burgeonet +1)
Neck: Snow Gorget
Earring: Brutal/Abyssal (Triumph/Assault)
Body: Hauberk
Hands: Chs. Gauntlets+1
Rings: Rajas/Uthalam (Sniper+1/Iota)
Back: Amemet+1
Belt: Warwolf Belt (Potent Belt)
Legs: Black Cuisses
Feet: Chs. Sollerets+1

So, if people have some suggestions, would be appreciated.
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Perle 5/5 for TP
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Also, start working on a Magian scythe. You can pick up a Plaga Scythe relatively easily, and that will tide you over until you finish a magian scythe.
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Also, start working on a Magian scythe. You can pick up a Plaga Scythe relatively easily, and that will tide you over until you finish a magian scythe.
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View Postfirefeng, on 18 July 2010 - 09:08 AM, said:

Also, start working on a Magian scythe. You can pick up a Plaga Scythe relatively easily, and that will tide you over until you finish a magian scythe.

Should note that you'll need another Scythe in case you're in a PT with a DNC.
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OK, was planning on picking up the Perle set, and the Plaga drops from Abyssea also, so that's useful - can try and kill 2 birds with the one stone.
Any thoughts on Back/Earring/Ring/Waist for Guillo?

Thanks.
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View PostBanter, on 18 July 2010 - 12:57 PM, said:

Should note that you'll need another Scythe in case you're in a PT with a DNC.


Only if you care about Drain/Aspir Samba, but with the number of parties I've actually had with DNC (despite them being awesome), it's more likely people can complete a competent Magian weapon by then.


View PostLasaan, on 18 July 2010 - 02:53 PM, said:

OK, was planning on picking up the Perle set, and the Plaga drops from Abyssea also, so that's useful - can try and kill 2 birds with the one stone.
Any thoughts on Back/Earring/Ring/Waist for Guillo?

Thanks.


With the rest of your gear, Ame +1/Forager's is fine for the back slot; earrings should be Brutal/Abyssal or Brutal/Aesir; Rajas/Ulthalam's is fine, as is Rajas/Sniper--if you find yourself eating pizza, trade out the ulthalam's/sniper for a STR ring; Swordbelt +1/Warwolf/Virtuoso Belt are all good options for waist--if your ACC is fine, stick with Warwolf, since Swordbelt +1 is really only applicable in situations that you aren't getting a whole lot of ATT buffs, otherwise glue Virtuoso Belt to your waist. If you're really lucky, hunt down the new ACC+15, ATT+15, DA +1% belt (called "Anguinus Belt"), but I don't think anyone's found it yet.

Considering you've got the Moogle Helm/snow gorget/hauby, though, you've pretty much got a Get Out of Dedicated Multihit WS ACC Build Free card. Especially true if your Diabolic Eye is capped. There should actually be some situations where you can trade the bomblet for a bomb core without any real penalty to ACC.

This post has been edited by firefeng: 18 July 2010 - 03:05 PM

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View Postfirefeng, on 18 July 2010 - 02:57 PM, said:

Only if you care about Drain/Aspir Samba, but with the number of parties I've actually had with DNC (despite them being awesome), it's more likely people can complete a competent Magian weapon by then.

Haste Samba, but very true on the second point.
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View Postfirefeng, on 18 July 2010 - 02:57 PM, said:

If you're really lucky, hunt down the new ACC+15, ATT+15, DA +1% belt (called "Anguinus Belt"), but I don't think anyone's found it yet.


http://wiki.ffxiclop...g/wiki/Kukulkan

Big NM in the Highlands Abyssea.

Good News: Popable
Bad news: Unknown Drop Rate and requires 3 items to pop, all that come from other NMs. Oh. And he's hard.

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View PostBanter, on 18 July 2010 - 11:12 PM, said:

Haste Samba, but very true on the second point.


It fucks with Haste Samba, too? I thought it only botched other enspell effects.
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View Postfirefeng, on 19 July 2010 - 08:24 AM, said:

It fucks with Haste Samba, too? I thought it only botched other enspell effects.

En-effects block all Sambas,
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