[Kandi_]

Velhart, on 11 March 2010 - 08:43 PM, said:

Hello2u Final Fantasy Versus XIII.

This is Nomuras action/adventure project. Still no gameplay footage, but he said the game is going to be a mix of Kingdom Hearts with an acrobatic style like characters in the Advent Children movie.

I am sure it is underway and will be out early 2011. I think what Nomura wanted to do was keep full focus on FFXIII till it came out, and then bring it out during E3 this year, along with Agito, but that is only a speculation. Look very forward to it.

One more thing, what the hell makes you think a game company will use its original design for a game? I have never seen a game where their original ideas became absolute to the very end, I do not see what is so different about 13. FFXII wasn't even free roam for the first few years of development.

I know its FFvs13.... or are u under the assumption FF13 is Nomuras creation? because its not.

and u act as if i was angry about FF13 changing from its original design. I didnt think they original design could actually work, i was thinking to myself how it was so impossible for them to do it, and sure enough it got changed.

[Velhart]

Kandi_, on 12 March 2010 - 01:12 PM, said:

I know its FFvs13.... or are u under the assumption FF13 is Nomuras creation? because its not.

and u act as if i was angry about FF13 changing from its original design. I didnt think they original design could actually work, i was thinking to myself how it was so impossible for them to do it, and sure enough it got changed.

Sorry I meant Hashimoto. And yea that is what it sounded like, but if not, no reason to argue. I hate beating on dead horses.

[_Vivik_]

Sorry to rain on your parade to every one that's bitching about FFXIII. But despite you disappointment that is purely mad up of you having sower coffee thins morning,
FFXIII turned out on par with any other good RPG i have played over the years. Was it linear? Yes so what, all games are no matter how it's hidden they are. That
does not make a game good or bad. Not sure what you where expecting but the battle system is not to far from the ones used in all FF's, you control a main
character and control the actions of the others are you change the discipline. Difference is that the people move around the field and not sit rooted to the ground.
To be honest i think FFXIII is very well developed, for the system it was intended for PS3. For the 360(lol) people, don't blame SE, blame MicroSoft they dished
millions for the conversion. As well to keep it fair SE cut out 1/4 of all the content so the 2 versions are the same(more ore less). By looking at numbers it seems
over all FFXIII did very well, and i hardly think that SE will change it because a few people on KI think it's bad. Think you can do a better RPG, go make 1 I'll play it too.

As for PS3 vs excuse-box 360, sure you have x3 the games of PS3, but you don't have 1/100th the quality... so it boils down to quality vs quantity.
Well as for PS3 titles i have over 65 games, and there's more then double that on the market. So it's extremely unclear when people say "ps3 haz no
games" what the hell are you expecting. ONLY reason Excuse-box is even sold today is Gaylo (Halo), and Mass Effect(2), both of which ARE linear,
just like any other game.

to OP:
FFXIV will be PC/PS3, both those have the potential. Am sure they can make it to 360 as well, but then we have the same crud as with FFXI + PS2
If you think that's unfair think about down the road 2years, and people want w/e change to 14, and we get bombed with <system> limitations.

This post has been edited by _Vivik_: 13 March 2010 - 09:22 AM

[thunderblazeFF14]

Proud owner of a Xbox360. Say no to Xbox360 limitations.

I'd much rather play on my 3.41ghz quadcore, 16gb ram, 1.8gb gpu PC anyway.

[Rhayve]

thunderblazeFF14, on 15 March 2010 - 02:09 PM, said:

Proud owner of a PC. Say no to console limitations.

I'd much rather play on my 3.41ghz quadcore, 16gb ram, 1.8gb gpu PC anyway.

Fixed.

[thunderblazeFF14]

Rhayve, on 15 March 2010 - 02:50 PM, said:

Fixed.

Good fix. Although, to be fair, there are some games that use PS3 as the world servers lol.

This post has been edited by thunderblazeFF14: 15 March 2010 - 03:00 PM

[Byozuma]

The problem that plagues any 360 release is Live functionality and Microsoft's predisposition against Sony. When FFXI made the jump Square told Microsoft to effectively 'take their Live and shove it'. When Sega made PSU they, unfortunately, bought Microsoft's line and kept the 360 version separate from the PC/PS2 version which hurt the US release alot. No doubt Square will be beset with the same Microsoft asshattery with FFXIV as they had with FFXI, which is why it's staying PC/PS3 at the moment. If Microsoft would just stop being anal retentive I doubt there'd be any problems with a possible 360 version. Someone seriously needs to tell them that cross platform is an awesome and made of good and win.

[Kandi_]

Byozuma, on 15 March 2010 - 05:25 PM, said:

The problem that plagues any 360 release is Live functionality and Microsoft's predisposition against Sony. When FFXI made the jump Square told Microsoft to effectively 'take their Live and shove it'. When Sega made PSU they, unfortunately, bought Microsoft's line and kept the 360 version separate from the PC/PS2 version which hurt the US release alot. No doubt Square will be beset with the same Microsoft asshattery with FFXIV as they had with FFXI, which is why it's staying PC/PS3 at the moment. If Microsoft would just stop being anal retentive I doubt there'd be any problems with a possible 360 version. Someone seriously needs to tell them that cross platform is an awesome and made of good and win.

actually SE was making FFXI for the original xbox, but MS said, XBL onry.

SE scrapped their plans, when they wernt aloud to put FFXI on xbox, w/p XBL.

later 360 came out, and MS was desperate for japanese games, and more so RPGs, they didnt care if it as a MMORPG that wasnt too popular, they just wanted more games. So SE ported the PC version, since it wasnt too hard to make minor adjustments.

Now that 360 is doing far better than the original xbox, MS doesnt need to "allow" FFXIV to be played without XBL, so they wont. SE cant get MS to let the {S3 and PC players play with 360 players, and play w/o gold XBL so its not going to happen, unless SE gets desperate enough (they wont, they are assuming FF14 will be the shit, and get MS to give in.)

[Drknockboots]

Kandi_, on 11 March 2010 - 08:06 PM, said:

then me, and others complained they wanted more party members... so SE was like, well we already have the base programming done, and adding in more isnt going to work, unless we AI them...
(yes the BS about it being too hard to control them all is BS, we have controlled 3-5 party members in other FF games just fine lol)

Going to have to disagree with you here. The battles are way too fast-paced to control all 3 characters (efficiently). It can get hectic just controlling one character and the paradigm switch system especially in later stages when the difficulty rises dramatically.

P.S

I don't know what it is about the OP but every post in this thread by the OP made me want to punch baby in the face. I'm glad SE isn't ran by idiots like Kelis. The series would have died long ago.

[Kandi_]

Drknockboots, on 16 March 2010 - 06:06 AM, said:

Going to have to disagree with you here. The battles are way too fast-paced to control all 3 characters (efficiently). It can get hectic just controlling one character and the paradigm switch system especially in later stages when the difficulty rises dramatically.

P.S

I don't know what it is about the OP but every post in this thread by the OP made me want to punch baby in the face. I'm glad SE isn't ran by idiots like Kelis. The series would have died long ago.

the speed of the battles can be adjusted.

You have played FF4-9 and X-2? we managed to control 3 up to 5 just fine.

And when u control more ppl, it might be slower, but it feels just as fast, since ur inputting more commands.

(but ignoring that, things are generally fine, but id rather they had it so L1 is the leaders class options, L2 is next party member, and R1 is the 3rd, saving R2 for a preset list of 6 combinations, for when u wanna change all 3 characters classes at teh same time. Make some other button Libra, THAT woulda made things allot more enjoyable, and fix allot of problems, like when ur forced into a boss fight with a different group, and it erases ur group set ups, u havta retry, and skip cutscene just to fix ur paradigms)

[Drknockboots]

Kandi_, on 16 March 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

the speed of the battles can be adjusted.

You have played FF4-9 and X-2? we managed to control 3 up to 5 just fine.

And when u control more ppl, it might be slower, but it feels just as fast, since ur inputting more commands.

(but ignoring that, things are generally fine, but id rather they had it so L1 is the leaders class options, L2 is next party member, and R1 is the 3rd, saving R2 for a preset list of 6 combinations, for when u wanna change all 3 characters classes at teh same time. Make some other button Libra, THAT woulda made things allot more enjoyable, and fix allot of problems, like when ur forced into a boss fight with a different group, and it erases ur group set ups, u havta retry, and skip cutscene just to fix ur paradigms)

Yes, I have played all of those FF games. Changing the speed of battle so that you can efficiently control every character would require you to play a regular turn based game. When you get far enough in the game your characters will have 6-7 commands they can use in a full ATB bar. If your character has the haste status on, your bar will be filled before you even try to switch to another character.The whole concept behind Final Fantasy XIII battle system was for it be strategic and fast-paced. Whereas you have some very nice ideas about what could have been added to the system it would have taken away from what they were trying to accomplish. In a way you do control the other two characters, you just do so indirectly. The battle system was good change of pace from the rest of the series.

This post has been edited by Drknockboots: 17 March 2010 - 12:14 PM

[Banggugyangu]

Yhelothur, on 10 March 2010 - 01:05 AM, said:

Games are just gimped when they're originally designed for one console and ported to another. I can honestly tell that the 360 version of Final Fantasy 13 was -NOT- originally intended to be there, and was clearly not well ported. The graphics are disappointing to say the least. A lot of it is pretty, but to someone who enjoys clean graphics, FFXIII is sort of a letdown in that department.

The problem with the XBox 360 version of FF13 is simply the media used to store the game. PS3's Blu-rays offer 25-50 GB of storage space *FF13 is a dual-layer I believe*. XBox 360 offers 4.7-8.5 GB of storage space. SE left all the video and audio completely uncompressed on the PS3 version because they had so much room to play around with on those discs. On the XBox 360 version, they compressed the video, changed the native resolution to 720p, compressed the audio to 198kbps *srsly wtf? lern2FLAC?*, and still had to spread the game across 3 discs. I personally would have been fine with the ~8 discs it'd have taken to have uncompressed video and audio on the XBox 360 version myself, but I would venture to say that a large number of idiots would disagree with that standpoint.

[Velhart]

I would agree if the AIs were not done so well. I think the only time I criticized it was sometimes the medic would make Esuna priority over Cure, when a Cure would of been much better to start with, but that almost never happens, but it did happen.

Like he said, you might be indirect with your party members, but with how diverse the Paradigm system is, I feel like I am more interactive with them than I thought.

[Banggugyangu]

Velhart, on 17 March 2010 - 10:32 AM, said:

I think the only time I criticized it was sometimes the medic would make Esuna priority over Cure, when a Cure would of been much better to start with

Soulsoother puppet AI is prevalent in FFXIII?

[Kelis]

Drknockboots, on 16 March 2010 - 06:06 AM, said:

Going to have to disagree with you here. The battles are way too fast-paced to control all 3 characters (efficiently). It can get hectic just controlling one character and the paradigm switch system especially in later stages when the difficulty rises dramatically.

P.S

I don't know what it is about the OP but every post in this thread by the OP made me want to punch baby in the face. I'm glad SE isn't ran by idiots like Kelis. The series would have died long ago.

Why did I have to be a called a idiot? Did I call you're mom a retard for having you? The game style is great, it's just not RPG to me. I wanted the game because I'm use to it being hard work. It taking time to figure things out and traveling looking at the new cities. When I first started playing the game it was awsome. It was like wow, its like playing FFXI just this time the you can't talk to the characters. On this it gave you no breaks. You can't just stop and go to a city and cruise around in it. Alot of people that brought FF13, they got it because of it being this way. I wouldn't have touched this game if I felt it was any different. I don't play games that guys usually play, that are hardcore fight, fight, fight, fight. I don't keep interest in it, Final fantasy 13 doesn't keep me interested in it. If it was going to be made this way. I feel it should have been cheaper. Do you know in Australia this game is 180 bucks. This game is not worth that much, its just following it and doing as it tells you.

It should have only gone for 30 bucks tops, thats how lame the shit is. Its pretty, but graphics isn't all that. The story plays backwards so you already know the ending. Search online on the review of this game. So many people hate it because its chazed so much. The only ones enjoying it are the lazy fuckers that love ToA in FFXI. Where you don't know how to do shit with the job, however you got to level 75 no prob.

[Drknockboots]

Kelis, on 17 March 2010 - 01:23 PM, said:

. On this it gave you no breaks. You can't just stop and go to a city and cruise around in it.

You're playing as characters that are fugitives and hated by everyone in the world, when exactly would they have time to cruise around in a city?

Kelis, on 17 March 2010 - 01:23 PM, said:

I don't play games that guys usually play, that are hardcore fight, fight, fight, fight.

When has Final Fantasy been anything but move from from point A to B while fighting a bunch of monsters and solving a few puzzles along the way? It has been this way through the entire series. It is no different here.

Kelis, on 17 March 2010 - 01:23 PM, said:

So many people hate it because its chazed so much.

Don't know what "chazed" means but I'll assume you meant "changed". What you and many others seem to forget is that Final Fantasy is a Role Playing Game. A role playing game doesn't mean that there has to be a world map which you can wander around aimlessly or a "traditional" leveling up system, it is about the story. If you were truly an R.P.G fan you would know that.

Kelis, on 17 March 2010 - 01:23 PM, said:

The only ones enjoying it are the lazy fuckers that love ToA in FFXI. Where you don't know how to do shit with the job, however you got to level 75 no prob.

Yes because clearly this games lacks any type of depth to it. You must have completed 100% of the game.

This post has been edited by Drknockboots: 17 March 2010 - 03:21 PM

[Corrderio]

Banggugyangu, on 17 March 2010 - 01:12 PM, said:

Soulsoother puppet AI is prevalent in FFXIII?

LOL!

[kokonut]

soooo is this link no longer true? or what? http://www.vg247.com...-ffxiv-for-360/

[Kyan Daralis]

Kelis, on 17 March 2010 - 01:23 PM, said:

Do you know in Australia this game is 180 bucks. This game is not worth that much, its just following it and doing as it tells you.

I live in Australia and I got the delux PS3 edition for just over 100 on release day from EB, don't know what bootleg store you bought your game from....

[Zombuh]

Banggugyangu, on 17 March 2010 - 10:16 AM, said:

The problem with the XBox 360 version of FF13 is simply the media used to store the game. PS3's Blu-rays offer 25-50 GB of storage space *FF13 is a dual-layer I believe*. XBox 360 offers 4.7-8.5 GB of storage space. SE left all the video and audio completely uncompressed on the PS3 version because they had so much room to play around with on those discs. On the XBox 360 version, they compressed the video, changed the native resolution to 720p, compressed the audio to 198kbps *srsly wtf? lern2FLAC?*, and still had to spread the game across 3 discs. I personally would have been fine with the ~8 discs it'd have taken to have uncompressed video and audio on the XBox 360 version myself, but I would venture to say that a large number of idiots would disagree with that standpoint.

Actually the PS3's native resolution is 720p, the xbox's is something like 576p. I hate to hear the argument that because of the 360's storage space and the ability to install the game to the hard drive it won't hold it back or impose limitations onto the PS3's versions. This clearly isn't the case as not many developers are gonna make a game with 20-30 gigs of memory required to play it. At least if they don't want to make their game partly inaccessible to 360 owners (if you take into account those who don't even have hard drives). It's hardly cost-effective anyways to make a game 8 discs long, or however long you want to speculate it might be on DVDs. Storing it on the hard drive seems like the only option aside from compressing it altogether.

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