[Metticus]

I have a friend who went to Afganistang. He is all fucked up in the head, and while talking about political issues he pinned me down to the ground with a knife on my kneck. I'm wondering if i should forgive him or not, and other than that, I just want to say that all you veterans are crazy as fuck. Crazy mother fuckers. Shit man. What the fuck. Get a grip. Fucken A. Man. That's some bullshit.

[Hakutaky]

If it bothers you, go to war yourself so we can actually go home.

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[Yhelothur]

Metticus, on 11 March 2010 - 04:35 AM, said:

I have a friend who went to Afganistang. He is all fucked up in the head, and while talking about political issues he pinned me down to the ground with a knife on my kneck. I'm wondering if i should forgive him or not, and other than that, I just want to say that all you veterans are crazy as fuck. Crazy mother fuckers. Shit man. What the fuck. Get a grip. Fucken A. Man. That's some bullshit.

Your friend needs professional help, unless you managed to piss him off. In which case, you're a dumbass.

If that's not the case, he needs to be somewhere that doctors can help him. He's got PTSD, for sure. The guy is fucking nuts, and that's all there is to it.


Also, I'm a veteran from this war, and I do hope you realize some of the shit we saw over there was not good for a healthy mind. I saw my fair share, and occasionally have bad dreams about the shit. I don't go putting knives to my friend's necks, but I can understand how someone who was a little off their rocker beforehand could come to that ending.

If you care about your friend, get him some help. If not, fuck you. He wasn't a friend in the first place, and you need to stay clear of him.

[Vigilous]

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If it bothers you, go to war yourself so we can actually go home.

I want you to stop and think about how fuckingingly goddamn stupid this sentence is. And when you figure it out, the sudden "pop" sound you will hear is your head being uncorked from your ass.

As for you Met, best idea would be to file charges for assault against him. I don't know your friend, but if he got that livid over a healthy political debate (if that's what it was), then trying to confront him about his emotional instability would trigger another episode. Having the cops involved would be a good starting point to get him the help he needs, since you cannot call a doctor for him to have him evaluated. Besides, even if the cops CAN'T do anything about your complaint, at least there will be something on file in the likely chance he has another episode.

Even in this day and age, with record numbers of soldiers requesting mental health aide, there are still many who cannot even fathom the notion that they are troubled psychologically.

[Boldfinger]

ITT: People sign up for the armed forces then QQ when they have to go to 'war'?

Don't get me wrong, it's definitely not the career for me at all, but if you do sign up it's not as though you don't know what you're signing up for.

[Aeonknight]

Since when did being a veteran have anything to do with it? Some people are that way about politics, all the while being ass backwards hicks.

[Metticus]

Yeah I don't think I'll file charges. I'm just goin to avoid him. Ya know I didn't even mean to make a post about this. I was just all paranoid last night. When I was on the ground I looked at him and said. "You say you went to war for us, is killing me goin to prove your point. " After that he got up and I guess he regretted doing that.

[Yhelothur]

He needs mental help. Next time whoever it is will get hurt.

[Varizen]

You know... A lot of vets come back and are not crazy. I live near Fort Campbell in KY, and I've heard my share of news stories about crazy people in the military, but a lot of that comes from the fact a lot of unstable people got forced in by their families thinking the strictness of it all would help them out. A lot of them it doesn't make any difference for, and they still do crazy shit. And if one comes back from a battle zone... they're going to see things that will fuck with their heads. Like their friends dying before their eyes or innocent civilians going about their lives and then a second later blown to pieces. It takes some mental fortitude to block that out. Some people do it successfully when they come back... a lot of people don't.

Now. It was a shocking incident for you. You were probably suffering from shock and really emotional when it happened. But your friend needs professional help. There's a fair share of people who need help to reincorporate themselves back into society after coming home.

[Metticus]

Fuck yeah I was in shock. I'm surprised in myself though that I kept my composure like that. Never stared at death before. It's weird that I wasn't afraid at that moment. I'm afraid now. But fuck man.

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Metticus, on 11 March 2010 - 12:52 PM, said:

Fuck yeah I was in shock. I'm surprised in myself though that I kept my composure like that. Never stared at death before. It's weird that I wasn't afraid at that moment. I'm afraid now. But fuck man.

That happens in those moments, not being afraid, but its actually shock and adrenaline. Be-careful with politics around veterans. Remember some of them gave up their former lives, and lost friends fighting for something that your political point of view might be the direct opposite of. This will come off as patronizing and offensive to them. Especially if anything you say sounds remotely like rhetoric/propaganda from the enemy.

It's hard for Veterans of war to adjust to normal civilian life. It's a more surreal experience than being the civilian thrust into war. Things arent the same their day to day life was survival and fighting, when they return its maintain a status quo that is now alien to them.

But your friend does need therapy in the sense of social behavior/ social rehabilitation

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[Littlebender]

Looks like Metticus was pretty much asking to get knifed.'
Would have been interesting to read the articles if he had. "Outspoken, opinionated ex-FFXI knifed in heated political squabble. No one was around to Raise I the big mouthed taru."

[Kenshiro]

My cousin is a veteran; he tries to kill me all the time. He will randomly decide to demonstrate combatives on me, or if were drunk, chase me around trying to spear me like Edge from WWE, To him, I guess that shit is fun because he used to goof off like that with his army buddies, but I'm an anorexic faggot who would rather talk it out or run than fight. The army changes people for sure, I'd hate to see what it would be like if he decided to give me a handgun demo one day. I'd avoid him, but he was my best friend before he joined up, so it's kind of weird.

[Doodlebug]

Boldfinger, on 11 March 2010 - 09:26 AM, said:

ITT: People sign up for the armed forces then QQ when they have to go to 'war'?

Don't get me wrong, it's definitely not the career for me at all, but if you do sign up it's not as though you don't know what you're signing up for.

This

And Mett... Yhelothur is right... he needs help. You don't just pull knifes out on people over debates and simple conflicts. If that were the case, I would've shot my mom a long ass time ago with the fucking gun in my closet lmao But then again, people nowadays are getting more and more "irrational"... I don't think it has anything to do with him being in the Army... like you said in the OP, he's already a little messed up... Idk how he got into the military in the first place >.> They are very strict on people with current mental conditions...

Id just... leave the topic alone and probably avoid him

[Aleera]

Vigilous, on 11 March 2010 - 09:06 AM, said:

but if he got that livid over a healthy political debate (if that's what it was), then trying to confront him about his emotional instability would trigger another episode.

Much like rumoured cake, it does not exist. Anytime I hear people talk about politics, or people try to talk about politics to me (which I hate, because I hate discussing politics) people get very heated, very quickly about things. People get overly sensitive about topics and I hate dealing with it.

But anyways, yeah.. I'd just steer clear of him for a long time, Mett. If any other problems do arise from this in the future, I would call the cops just to be safe. Seems he's "seen things, mannnnn..." and he could flip out worse on the next guy. You might've just gotten lucky.

This post has been edited by Aleera: 11 March 2010 - 02:55 PM

[Metticus]

Littlebender, on 11 March 2010 - 01:31 PM, said:

Looks like Metticus was pretty much asking to get knifed.'
Would have been interesting to read the articles if he had. "Outspoken, opinionated ex-FFXI knifed in heated political squabble. No one was around to Raise I the big mouthed taru."

Hahaha that would be funny. I'll tell my famiily to post my obituary here. When I'm a ghost Im goin to haunt these boards.

That night started out so good though. I was at the bar with a couple models and I got to dance with them all(other friend is a photographer). If I had to choose a day to die, I would of picked that one lol.

[Rentahobo]

PTSD or even its lesser cousin CS (Combat stress) are a fucker to deal with as i am still struggling to overcome mine apart from increased irritability it aint that bad for me these days

[hideo]

Metticus, on 11 March 2010 - 04:35 AM, said:

I have a friend who went to Afganistang. He is all fucked up in the head, and while talking about political issues he pinned me down to the ground with a knife on my kneck. I'm wondering if i should forgive him or not, and other than that, I just want to say that all you veterans are crazy as fuck. Crazy mother fuckers. Shit man. What the fuck. Get a grip. Fucken A. Man. That's some bullshit.

He needs some real help which unfortunately, VA(not Virginia lol) isn't getting the full focus they need, nor the experts in many cases. I know people who came back who are nuts and crazy and snap in certain points, I know friends who's friend came back all fucked up cause they had to shoot a 8 year old who was trained to kill American soldiers. In fact one friend who I had who was medically discharged from the Navy due to a leg problem he had after going to Iraq confided in me, and Ill tell you I never seen him like this. he shot a 13 year old in the head, and was able to describe every bit to the point with where the brain was blown out, and if you had seen his face, you couldnt imagine how it felt, nor fathom, the idea of whats really going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, and such. It's sad Im waiting for my day to come up when the Navy sends me to Afghanistan as a Individual Augmentee, to fight alone side Marines and members of the Army, and be dodging bullets myself. Hopefully I dodge that chance, but I myself have to be ready for anything. Take it from a guy who is in the military and know others who went through that, who confided in me what happened over there.

This post has been edited by hideo: 11 March 2010 - 07:01 PM

[Yhelothur]

Metticus, on 11 March 2010 - 12:52 PM, said:

Fuck yeah I was in shock. I'm surprised in myself though that I kept my composure like that. Never stared at death before. It's weird that I wasn't afraid at that moment. I'm afraid now. But fuck man.

Stop talking, go get your "friend" some help. Talk to his family. Find a spot where you'd feel more safe, and talk to him. He's not sane, and needs to be taken care of. The next person will get hurt, I can assure you this. You don't want to be them, do you?

Now stop being a pussy and do something. lol

[Doodlebug]

Yhelothur, on 11 March 2010 - 08:00 PM, said:

Now stop being a pussy and do something. lol

Yea cause that's helpful