[drunkenrdm]

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Because Justice sword doesn't exist.
Also, who is going to give a melee rdm all of those buffs? lol

Justice Sword does exist, but there are problems with it. 1 It chews through stones like crazy, and in a 2-3 hour exp party or a 5-6 hour abyssea party it will become useless very fast, and just slow the shit out of Joyeuse. Unless you bring many stacks of stones, but then you have to leave out some mage type equipment, meaning you are not prepared in the even you may need to drop to the backline and become a healer or debuffer or nuker.

Secondly in the event you are meleeing you should be treated like a melee, it is no wonder it gets a bad rap, because people like, say fuck the RDM we will give the SAM and them double march and double minuet, and Haste Samba, and SAM ROLL + Beaters Roll. People like you set up RDM to fail. If it is in a DD role than it deserves the same buffs available to them. In a BRD/NIN SAM/WAR SAM/WAR RDM/WAR (or DRK, or DNC or NIN) COR BRD Party I can get well over 500ATK with food @ the equivelent of 70% haste. Drop a BRD for a DNC i still get nearly 500ATK with 70% haste, as well as a combined effect of a 33% ATK bonus on every mob (DiaIII,Lightshot,Box Step).

Thats like me saying, well guess what guys its been a good run, but BLM i know you need MP but im not going to refresh you even though mine is twice as good, and mr SAM and Mr WAR im not going to buff you even though you are in my DD party, you don't get buffs, bu ill buff myself to make me look better.

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given all that haste, wouldn't excal still be the choice for dmg, given the add effect? or is the DoT of the enspells still that much better....

Excal is a decent weapon. But it can not match the speed at which a joyeuse attacks, which means more WS's faster which in the end will over take the added effect of damage. (which is not a 100% effect). The real bonus to excal is the 5% double damage bonus, which means every so often you will get a big big hit (400 or so) in the end the Excal will win out just by sheer bonus damage. Even more so if you upgrade it. However being realistic, 90% of anybody doesn't have a relic weapon, let alone an upgraded one. My build is a realistic build, and I promise you it is the best in DoT and total DPS over a realistic outing and not some "fantasy land" where you have infinite virtue stones or relics spilling out your ass.

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Haste is going to increase the performance of both equally.

Hey you got something right.

This post has been edited by drunkenrdm: 12 September 2010 - 11:03 AM