[Angrist]

Ragnarok gets +3 dmg for trial 1, +9 for trial 2, dont think there are any more yet. Saw a 81 dmg occasionally attacks twice GS also pretty badass

[Greeber]

Angrist, on 23 March 2010 - 12:28 PM, said:

Ragnarok gets +3 dmg for trial 1, +9 for trial 2, dont think there are any more yet. Saw a 81 dmg occasionally attacks twice GS also pretty badass

I saw one that had 94 total base dmg

[TresDuendes]

I saw one that had regain.

[Jazz]

TresDuendes, on 26 March 2010 - 01:46 AM, said:

I saw one that had regain.

Yes, I think you're referring to "NightFall", the new Shadowlord GS. It has potential, but it would depend on how potent the regain effect is....if it gives 3 TP a tick, It would allow you to 6hit that GS with 444 delay, and that would be a pretty nice increase in WS frequency.

The NighFall GS may just give a 1TP a tick; however, The "Monarch's Drink" in besieged which grants "regain" effect, gives 3TP a tick, so there's hope for the NightFall GS....

As for relic GS, you can now increase Ragnarok's base dmg to 95 (86 + 9 dmg), though other relics are also getting dmg upgrades too...but if I'm not mistaken, Apoc for example, gets a +7 dmg upgrade...so in comparison to other relic, Ragnarok is just getting a +2 dmg upgrade, at least it's something, and I don't think that this system for upgrading relics is done yet.

Now, what I want to get at for Ragnarok...seeing how SE is now introducing effects such as "Regain" on a weapon (particularly on a GS, NightFall), I think that the thing that would really improve/fix Relic GS (in comparison to other relics), would be if SE also gives Ragnarok a potent "Regain" effect so Ragnarok users can 6 hit their GS with 431 delay.

This post has been edited by Jazz: 26 March 2010 - 12:14 PM

[TresDuendes]

I don't think anything can fix Ragnarok short of upgrading Apoc instead.

[Virginia]

which would you pick, and why?
***
Salamand Sword 10 KRABKATOA SHELLS NEEDED
AugmentRareExclusive

(Great Sword) All Races
DMG:41 Delay:456
DMG:+30 Delay:+24 Occ. atk. twice
Lv. 75 PLD/DRK
***
Salamand Sword KRABKATOA NOT NEEDED
AugmentRareExclusive

(Great Sword) All Races
DMG:41 Delay:456
Delay:+24 Occ. atk. twice
Lv. 75 PLD/DRK
***
Brand d'arcon
AugmentExclusive

(Great Sword) All Races
DMG:69 Delay:466
DMG:+15 Delay:-22 STR+4 Attack+12
Lv. 75 PLD/DRK

[Kaparu]

Fully upgraded OAT, because its better than any other option

[Virginia]

Kaparu, on 05 June 2010 - 10:25 PM, said:

Fully upgraded OAT, because its better than any other option

wow. thank god I've figured out "OAT = Occasionally attacks twice" on my own.....i've gotten so rusty...
do you think the DA is worth it, percentage-wise?

[Banter]

idkman regain is pretty awesome but sumtime u jus twanna swing moar then uneed this ones

[Kaparu]

Virginia, on 06 June 2010 - 12:20 AM, said:

wow. thank god I've figured out "OAT = Occasionally attacks twice" on my own.....i've gotten so rusty...
do you think the DA is worth it, percentage-wise?

Its on par with if not better than its relic counterpart, so yes

[Virginia]

Do you think it's worth it to get the regular one (without fighting krabkatoa)? I don't have the manpower for that sorta thing, OR the money to hire people

[Kaparu]

Definitely not.

Honestly, I'd try getting pickup groups to give you a hand, or something similar. Its that good.

[Hercule]

6 Hits Build on /SAM ~
(TPbuild set +14 STP / WS set +12 STP)

[Kaparu]

Turban, Blitz, Homam feet. If your Acc doesn't support that, change food.

[Banter]

Kaparu, on 16 June 2010 - 07:23 PM, said:

Turban, Blitz, Homam feet. If your Acc doesn't support that, change food.

might need ecphoria for the 6 hit?

[Kaparu]

Good point

Edit: Nevermind, in that case he should be using a Chiv Chain

This post has been edited by Kaparu: 17 June 2010 - 12:10 AM

[Banter]

aurum body obviously

[Kaparu]

Never really closely examined DRK GS builds, I should hope that they don't have to resort to using Aurum :c

[Banter]

Kaparu, on 17 June 2010 - 03:58 PM, said:

Never really closely examined DRK GS builds

Why don't we just go back to this? I liked the way things were.