[Rakshaka]

Papesse, on 25 March 2010 - 11:57 AM, said:

Sargas (lvl 75~80 NM) at 100% HP...

With around 1250~ MP :


1600~ MP :
(2 times!)

1250~ MP :


A bit random...

Can you please note the %HP the mob was at after you used Zantetsuken. If their level varies from 75 to 80, then their max HP will fluctuate.

[JudicatorAldaris]

spira, on 25 March 2010 - 02:01 AM, said:

more evidence for the % of mob HP camp.
Campaign mobs have a ton of HP.

LMAO

[JudicatorAldaris]

1, on 25 March 2010 - 12:28 PM, said:

those mobs are about 4k hp a piece and your mp was 1626.. i suspect you could do 4 on that smn skill 310 mp 1626 build but could not do 5 of those mobs in particular until you use a 1.8- 2k mp set.

How are you suggest the math? vs MP/#mobs?

[Papesse]

Rakshaka, on 25 March 2010 - 01:50 PM, said:

Can you please note the %HP the mob was at after you used Zantetsuken. If their level varies from 75 to 80, then their max HP will fluctuate.

Same Sargas in the 3 screens, at 100% each time. (Zantetsuken > zone > waited 2h > return...) He is always up and probably has a fixed lvl.

[Umisame]

1707dmg on Odin prime(at the start of the battle), i had like 1100 mp and 329 smning.

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JudicatorAldaris, on 25 March 2010 - 02:26 PM, said:

How are you suggest the math? vs MP/#mobs?

when you get back from your haircut we'll do some experiments with that ratio I'm thinking about which is 1:4 mp:hp ratio on regular mobs (not going to exclude ya'll )

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Umisame, on 25 March 2010 - 03:07 PM, said:

1707dmg on Odin prime(at the start of the battle), i had like 1100 mp and 329 smning.

Odin prime as in the avatar battle I presume?

[Rakshaka]

Umisame, on 25 March 2010 - 03:07 PM, said:

1707dmg on Odin prime(at the start of the battle), i had like 1100 mp and 329 smning.

You're refeferring to the new fight right?

[Umisame]

Yep, new fight.

I think mp isnt that important, maybe is %mp, if you have full mp you do more dmg. What i want to know is if you can boost dmg with pet MAB since someone in bluegatr said that odin 2h can MB(but no screenshot) and if smning can boost acc(or maybe dmg) D;

[JudicatorAldaris]

I think people are not reading this thread, and what 01 has said!

[Umisame]

Rakshaka can you edit first post?, this:
MP: 1100 DMG: 2269 Skill: 227 Monster/Fight: Alexander(Avatar)

skill is 327, i wrote 227 but i edited later, sorry.

Maybe we should post the %hp of the mob when we used odin, if we had 100% mp, if it was darks day/weather?

This post has been edited by Umisame: 25 March 2010 - 04:15 PM

[Silvra]

We used Alexander for Dynamis Qufim yesterday against the gigas boss. Needless to say the SMN's party did not die until Perfect Defense wore. I can see this being as useful as BRD songs in zerg fights like DL and Bahamut.

[Auraeon]

spira, on 25 March 2010 - 02:01 AM, said:

more evidence for the % of mob HP camp.
Campaign mobs have a ton of HP.

I wonder if 9999 is the damage cap (like in most previous FF games.)

So awesome to see a player doing 9,999 damage in FFXI though. I can't wait until 99 cap, I'm sure we'll see it much more often.

[Papesse]

Kimmerios, Dark Elemental (Moblin Maze Mongers), 1000 MP

[JudicatorAldaris]

Smn Skill - 308
Mp - 1616
Monster @ 97% HP/ Around 10,000ish HP - Ko'Dho Cannonball

This post has been edited by JudicatorAldaris: 25 March 2010 - 08:59 PM

[Killataru]

Adding to discussion.. another Campaign Battle mob:

Yuu Mjuu the Awakened 8616
his (light) Elemental: 1084

Edit: Forgot to mention looked like it took 25% of his HP off exactlly.

me:
SMN Magic when it went off: 298 (was just going for max mp with what i had at the time)
MP: 1419

This post has been edited by Killataru: 25 March 2010 - 09:43 PM

[JudicatorAldaris]

Odin"PRIME" Fight

Avatar: Alexander Used
smn skill - 302
MP used - 1701

everybody had Stoneskin

This post has been edited by JudicatorAldaris: 25 March 2010 - 10:33 PM

[spira]

actually I think our testing has been going in the wrong direction.

We should have someone testing Odin's damage at 0mp.
Preferably on a mob we can have some form of control testing over.

Some people are suggesting Aw'euvhi for Limbus cards.. which may not be a bad idea though you'll need to find one without mobs around it.. and run for your life (or have a sleeper friend) thereafter.

I think i'll put together a test later, except theres no real feasible way to suppress auto-refresh to get a true 0mp Zantetsuken, unless rune staff works.

[Varizen]

Well, I can telly you this... I did 3 in Dynamis Jeuno tonight. (my 2hr got reset twice.) It does REALLY crappy damage even to 1 mob. My hits were about 2 19s and a 35 to the MB. Full MP on all, but their HP was all around 20-60% when my attack went off.

[Papesse]

Perfect Defense, 498/1251 MP, 344 skill
Duration : 58 sec

907/1251 MP, 344 skill
Duration : 1 min 30

1009/1251 MP, 300 skill
Duration : 1 min 30

1251/1251 MP, 300 skill
Duration : 1 min 30

MP affects the duration, not the skill. In all the cases the effect seems to always start with the max PDT/MDT possible but it decay much faster over the time. Need more tests to know how many MP are needed exactly, if it's a %...