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Omgwtftaru, on 07 April 2010 - 02:29 AM, said:

From the uncapped matches I've been to recently, most PUPs use the valoredge frame since it can last a while. Also, I don't recall any summoners using nightmare...I think that's pretty much 30 cap only? The times I've been to matches as summoner before the update I just use the merit blood pacts which can easily deal 800+ damage often at times KOing an unbuffed tarutaru mage. The thing about Odin is that it takes about 5 seconds to actually use Zantetsuken and usually gives a window of time for people to run out of range. It is without a doubt incredible to KO a few people grouped together, but if there are more than 3, it usually misses some. I actually have yet to see Alexander in ballista...

Ah that blows.
Ya, I used nightmare when I used to go summoner to uncapped ballista.
Trick is to invis yourself, throw diabolos as someone, they will most likely run to their group, make him do nightmare, it will sleep everyone.
And nightmare sleeps people regardless if they have poison pots or not . By the time people find you, you do a 500-800 dmg nightmare, get gb, run.
Sounds whimpish, but that's how I used to get gb on my smn.
There are other gb methods like titans merritted bp, but I guess odin sux so it's a waste of a 2 hr lol.
My friend plays his pup wierd, even though he got B+ h2h, he subs /brd, runs around sleeping people, then throws his blm pet to cast blizz IV while the person is slept. So on, so on.