[Kimjongil76]

Hello all,

I do know most peolpe are going for the +4 str + 12 atk or the +8 acc +4 dex swords. But I do have a few questions about these swords I would like to see if anyone has answers to.

1st. It hasn't beenc onfirmed, but can we duel weild say the same sword as they are ex/arg?

So in theory 2 +4 str +12 atk swords?

2nd I am curious about the "add affect of status" like defense down +10. Doies anyone know how any of these affects will work? Like do we have to WS for the affectto attack or just be tp'ing the mob?

3rd. If it is just TPing the mob wouldnt that make the Soulsaber with weakens defense +10 more desirable then the STR swords? -10 defense would make our physical spells hit harder, Duel weild these for -20 defense and watch our big three go?

If that is true wouldnt the same be said about Magic defense down duel eilding +20? Then let off yoru magic spell?

Or if soloing use weaken attack +10 both hands + frightful roar would be like a 30% down on the mobs attack, hence making a great solo sword combo?

I keeping options open as I know we may get duel weld by next update. So these combos wouldnt even always be for subbing ninja.

ATM I just finished +10 M acc sword and am thinking of doing a 2nd sword for total +20 M acc +60 MP. I would think since our mythric weapon has these stats for M accuracy it be very helpful?


Any thoughts would be welcome.

[Nikia]

I am a rdm but I think you should do antea and get a multihit sword

[Kimjongil76]

I will go for the multi sword as well.

I just know there are MANY NM we dont even TP

Genbu = Cannonball
Kirlin same

Taimat hec wave or spell.

most SCNM never TP range nuke

Solo purpose, multi hit would be ok except it be like a K club on some mobs feeding them to do do some bad AOEs. hence even tigers could paralize you, example.

So I was just wondering peoples thoughts.

[Nikia]

If worried about that then do three swords. Remember everything is situational.

[Kyte]

The magic accuracy one is pretty cool if you're on head butt duty; I might go for that next. I would say base what you get off of what you currently have. For example, I already have perdu and koggelmander, so the STR and DEX ones aren't quite as appealing.

This post has been edited by Kyte: 03 April 2010 - 08:10 AM

[Crebont]

I've seen ALOT of blus getting the macc+10 sword.. is it really worth it? i was thinking of the dex/acc one at least. I have perdu/beast so idk what i should get really lol.

any ideas?

This post has been edited by Crebont: 08 May 2010 - 12:59 AM

[rambus]

Crebont, on 08 May 2010 - 12:59 AM, said:

I've seen ALOT of blus getting the macc+10 sword.. is it really worth it? i was thinking of the dex/acc one at least. I have perdu/beast so idk what i should get really lol.

any ideas?

I might be wrong since im not a hard core blu but my current views perdu is for DD and the only thing that can replace that or best replacement would be OAT sword.

should be able get acc elsewhere for the better tp gain

[Crebont]

rambus, on 08 May 2010 - 01:11 AM, said:

the only thing that can replace that or best replacement would be OAT sword.

i'm looking into stats for spells, oat doesn't do anything for that. which is why i think dex/acc would be best. might get the better oat sword if i can get some Ruthven's Nails lol

[fyreus]

That's another thing that irks me. Most people believe they must be the next dual wielding warrior. The fact is that there are things that you'd want to TP AND be able to land spells at a higher rate with such as MP drainkiss or enervasion or even be able to use 1k needles for the heck of it. I can go on and on but the fact is that it's really up to your playstyle or the mob you are fighting.

[rambus]

Crebont, on 08 May 2010 - 02:13 AM, said:

i'm looking into stats for spells, oat doesn't do anything for that. which is why i think dex/acc would be best. might get the better oat sword if i can get some Ruthven's Nails lol

your doing it wrong.

1. being consered with that would only deal with spaming muli hit spells
2. for the most part 3 str is better for spell, swords already out there that give stat boost.
3. perdu gives some acc I forget the amount though

Kyte, on 03 April 2010 - 08:08 AM, said:

The magic accuracy one is pretty cool if you're on head butt duty; I might go for that next. I would say base what you get off of what you currently have. For example, I already have perdu and koggelmander, so the STR and DEX ones aren't quite as appealing.

this is a 4 str and 4 dex sword this is best for spell damage, but not so much as acc, you have perdu for that, you have wing sword +1 for 3 str and 3 vit, or you can still stick to koggelmander i guess.

This post has been edited by rambus: 08 May 2010 - 04:21 PM

[Crebont]

rambus, on 08 May 2010 - 04:13 PM, said:

your doing it wrong.

1. being consered with that would only deal with spaming muli hit spells
2. for the most part 3 str is better for spell, swords already out there that give stat boost.
3. perdu gives some acc I forget the amount though

who said anything about spamming spells? i said i use perdu/beast right? lets look at that for a second here.



perdu is a decent sword so lets leave it at that, but as far as beast goes compared to this...



were talking 1 more dmg, 6 more delay (meh), 1 more dex, and 8 acc (plus the acc from the dex itself)
aside from the mp this seems like an upgrade to me

now look at the mods for big3

Disseverment: STR: 20%, DEX: 20%.
Hysteric Barrage: DEX: 30%.
Frenetic Rip: STR: 20%, DEX: 20%.

all of them benefit from dex, and 2 of them could use the acc (unless your capped) in which case 4dex is still awesome no? >.>

i understand people like the str/attk sword for fstr and sword dps... but dex/acc seems decent till i get a kogg (Tanihwa is ghey ;;; )

[rambus]

Crebont, on 09 May 2010 - 05:39 AM, said:

who said anything about spamming spells? i said i use perdu/beast right? lets look at that for a second here.



perdu is a decent sword so lets leave it at that, but as far as beast goes compared to this...



were talking 1 more dmg, 6 more delay (meh), 1 more dex, and 8 acc (plus the acc from the dex itself)
aside from the mp this seems like an upgrade to me

now look at the mods for big3

Disseverment: STR: 20%, DEX: 20%.
Hysteric Barrage: DEX: 30%.
Frenetic Rip: STR: 20%, DEX: 20%.

all of them benefit from dex, and 2 of them could use the acc (unless your capped) in which case 4dex is still awesome no? >.>

i understand people like the str/attk sword for fstr and sword dps... but dex/acc seems decent till i get a kogg (Tanihwa is ghey ;;; )

I really hate secondy mod arguments, swords that you are looking to make is only for lacking acc where you be spaming those spells ( i/e zerg like situations)

any time you start to space out your spells that OaT gets better and better at giving you better overall damage.

you have to remember STR is always a factor outside of lolmods.

there is only one job out there where STR takes a second seat to outside drastic specific gear slot differences and that is thf.

and the only reason THF worries about that is from the DEX and AGI bonuses SA and TA give, and less about the secondary mobs though those bonuses do add to the SA bonuses.

in overall performance that a dex4/ 8 acc sword is lol for the most part.

there is one other situation you can try, it requires hording DEX, though i like to see blu having 120-150 dex. and i wonder how that would effect crt hit on spells. and if ti shares logic to what thf can use on ws.

even then your getting less tp and that concept is for WS only, it is not a full time thing so even that idea makes having a 4 dex 8 acc moot unless it is some xerg situation.

thats why i said something about spaming spells, it is the only situation where that sword has an argument.

past spaming spells/ zerg situation, the OAT sword is downright better.
if you are caped acc im sure a simple str 3 sword like ifrits gives you more damage then 4 dex on spells.
getting a transistion sword for pre krog seems like a waste of time to me.

This post has been edited by rambus: 10 May 2010 - 02:51 AM

[Kaslo]

Seeing as with the update they added quests up to lvl 80 swords now,

The STR path now has a

DMG 48
Delay 230
STR+ 6 Attk+16

This is pretty damn good, High DMG and Attk/STR will be great for normal DDing, tempted to get two of them... but the one I'm doing now I am hating! blah fire weather can die.

[Ethican]

I think I just decided that I want to do the str+6 route and the dex+6 route. this seems like it would blend very very well together. 6str/dex 12 acc and 16 atk. base D48 too boot. This would increase sword dot, ws dmg and spell dmg. best news get to retire perdu hanger. these swords will prolly be buffed in the next magian update too. Before to me they seemed too weak to consider the time investment. now, I think this may be the best route for all around increase in dmg output.

[rambus]

Ethican, on 30 June 2010 - 10:29 PM, said:

I think I just decided that I want to do the str+6 route and the dex+6 route. this seems like it would blend very very well together. 6str/dex 12 acc and 16 atk. base D48 too boot. This would increase sword dot, ws dmg and spell dmg. best news get to retire perdu hanger. these swords will prolly be buffed in the next magian update too. Before to me they seemed too weak to consider the time investment. now, I think this may be the best route for all around increase in dmg output.

wont you be best with main handing that str / attack then off handing an aot? what can you upgrade oat now?

[Kaslo]

Been looking at the AOT swords and have been leaning more towards the 50DMG DA+7% Sword... I ran numbers and the loss of attacks from the AOT swords wouldn't be too bad and you would get a 50DMG sword which is one of the highest DMG swords BLU can get which will lead to better WSs.

[fyreus]

I'm also going for the high dmg / oat unless blu can get some GOOD DA gear then the high dmg / da% seems like a good combo especially since these updates are giving blu alot more melee power. I feel like an Onion knight O_O

[rambus]

fyreus, on 01 July 2010 - 12:44 PM, said:

I'm also going for the high dmg / oat unless blu can get some GOOD DA gear then the high dmg / da% seems like a good combo especially since these updates are giving blu alot more melee power. I feel like an Onion knight O_O

with that weapon, it would be 7+5+10 that i know of 22 seems decnet to me, you can equip the trait now

[Kimjongil76]

I am thinking of going for the double/tripple attack sword fr the offhand. I have not decided what sword I want for my mainhand as by the end of summer I am sure many new swords will be out.

Khandra: Dmg 25, occ attacks 2-3 times. I would think of using this in offhand. Not so much for sword DoT, but when I chain Afienity and if I sub sameri, I can perhaps get 300 ttp every 2 minutes. Use 100 TP on WS, and 200 on CA spell.

The Almace sword looks nice. I may go after that as well. This sword will get upgraded as well.

A third option would be the Machera sword. This sword right now offers a bonus to Savage blade. 10%. My guess would be next update it could be enhanced 10% bonus to a new weaponskill that they have not added, or the new one we just got.

The store TP + 9 you could make would only be cool if you dual wielded these. +18 store TP with swords alone. Problem is we have 2 minutes to CA anything no major benefit.

[fyreus]

rambus, on 01 July 2010 - 02:43 PM, said:

with that weapon, it would be 7+5+10 that i know of 22 seems decnet to me, you can equip the trait now

My biggest beef with double attack on non war/ and nin/ is that you don't always get a four hit going while dual weilding. On my nin i notice i get 4 hitters every 5 rounds which goes by pretty fast. Sometimes i can't even tell D: That's why i'm leaning for a multihit offhand and strong mainhand (good WS dmg and maybe a few offhand hits? i forgot how it goes.)