[Alkar]

This time it's Nobuo Uematsu that apparently drops another hint that this sequel is in the works (after Nomura saying that he'll work hard on it).
Anime Boston 2010> check at 2:20.
When asked who would win in a fight between Kefka and Sephiroth he said: "There might be a rematch next year".
So not only is Dissidia 2 in the works but apparently Uematsu is composing for the game this time? Only time will tell (or E3 ).

[Saniiro]

As long as it's on PS3 and Sazh represents FF13, then I'm good.

[Varizen]

I'd like to see more than one rep per team this time around, yo.

[Corrderio]

If they make a sequel I'm curious how they'll imply some FFs. Like FF1 and FF3.

[Saniiro]

Corrderio, on 06 April 2010 - 01:41 PM, said:

If they make a sequel I'm curious how they'll imply some FFs. Like FF1 and FF3.

Playable list I'd like to see (roughly):

Warrior of Light / Princess Sera / Garland
Firion / Emperor
Onion Knight / Dragoon / Cloud of Darkness
Cecil / Kain / Golbez
Bartz / Faris / ExDeath
Terra / Celes / Kefka
Cloud / Yuffie / Sephiroth
Squall / Zell / Seifer / Edea
Zidane / Vivi / Kuja
Tidus / Yuna / Jecht / Seymour
Shantoto / Trion / Volkner
Balthier / Gabranth / Ashe
Sazh / Snow / Raines / Dysley
Ramza / Delita
Ashley Riot / Sydney / Rosencrantz (VS is part of the FFT universe, thus part of the FF series)
Chocobo / Moogle / Momba


They shouldn't limited it with such a silly story next time...

This post has been edited by Saniiro: 06 April 2010 - 01:55 PM

[IoriYagami]

I still want my Capcom vs. SquareEnix. Dissidia 2 with a wider roster would definitely be nice! But above all.. Capcom vs. Squareenix. I think its more than possible now with Capcom's 2.5D style now. Tell me you agree with me.... please?

[Corrderio]

Saniiro, on 06 April 2010 - 01:53 PM, said:

Playable list I'd like to see (roughly):

Warrior of Light / Princess Sera / Garland
Firion / Emperor
Onion Knight / Dragoon / Cloud of Darkness
Cecil / Kain / Golbez
Bartz / Faris / ExDeath
Terra / Celes / Kefka
Cloud / Yuffie / Sephiroth
Squall / Zell / Seifer / Edea
Zidane / Vivi / Kuja
Tidus / Yuna / Jecht / Seymour
Shantoto / Trion / Volkner
Balthier / Gabranth / Ashe
Sazh / Snow / Raines / Dysley
Ramza / Delita
Ashley Riot / Sydney / Rosencrantz (VS is part of the FFT universe, thus part of the FF series)
Chocobo / Moogle / Momba


They shouldn't limited it with such a silly story next time...

FF3 Dragoon and Kain? lol? xD

Though yeah, the characters in the first 3 FFs were pretty vauge for info. And if they're going to go with an entire cast new characters this is all I can think of...

FF1: Only humanoid I can think of is Lich for a villian. Other light warrior classes could work. (Like a monk for example. That's one reason I wish they added Prishe instead of lolShantotto for the XI character.)
FF2: Maybe Leon as a villian?
FF3: Unless they go with the DS remake and add Leuth and Xandane
FF4: Rosa and Kain for hero/villian? Kain will be a villian no doubt.
FF5: Leena and Gilgamesh?
FF6: Tons of heros to chose from, I can't think of another villian for 6 unless you go with Geshal.
FF7: Lost here. Zack could work, but 7 lacked even side villians since Sephrioth was brought into the game within the first hour.
FF8: Riona/Seifer?
FF9: Heros are easy, but villians.... I'm not so sure what would work. Human version of Necron?
FF10: Yuna and Seymore.
FF11: Please please please please please do Zied/Shadowlord.
FF12: If they add Vann over Balthiere I'll go apeshit. And I guess Vane for the villian? Or maybe Cid?
FF13: Haven't played so can't comment.

[Deo2]

Dissidia Tag Team... or Kingdom-Hearts style (2 npc support)

[.Sotek.]

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FF7: Lost here. Zack could work, but 7 lacked even side villians since Sephrioth was brought into the game within the first hour.

Really? Who were the Turks anyway, and Hojo for that matter, fuck add Genesis (from CC but who gives a crap). Even Jenova could work if you think scaling Necron down to human size could work. While I'm on FF9, You'd add Vivi and one of the Black Waltz or I hurt you.

[Saniiro]

IoriYagami, on 06 April 2010 - 01:56 PM, said:

I still want my Capcom vs. SquareEnix. Dissidia 2 with a wider roster would definitely be nice! But above all.. Capcom vs. Squareenix. I think its more than possible now with Capcom's 2.5D style now. Tell me you agree with me.... please?

After TvC, I definitely do.

SE vs. Capcom list-

SE:
Cloud (Zack alt costume)
Squall (Seifer alt costume)
Vivi (FF1 BLM alt costume)
Sazh (PSICOM alt costume)
Ashley Riot (Rood Inverse alt costume)
Musashi
Chrono (Serge Alt costume)
Edward Elric (yes, Square owns FMA)
Claude Kenny
Lara Croft (Square owns Eidos) (Lightning alt costume)
Sora from Kingdom Hearts
Loto from Dragon Warrior
Hero of Mana
Goblin (FFXI)
Giant: Kazuki's Wanzer

Corrderio, on 06 April 2010 - 02:33 PM, said:

FF3 Dragoon and Kain? lol? xD

Though yeah, the characters in the first 3 FFs were pretty vauge for info. And if they're going to go with an entire cast new characters this is all I can think of...

FF1: Only humanoid I can think of is Lich for a villian. Other light warrior classes could work. (Like a monk for example. That's one reason I wish they added Prishe instead of lolShantotto for the XI character.)
FF2: Maybe Leon as a villian?
FF3: Unless they go with the DS remake and add Leuth and Xandane
FF4: Rosa and Kain for hero/villian? Kain will be a villian no doubt.
FF5: Leena and Gilgamesh?
FF6: Tons of heros to chose from, I can't think of another villian for 6 unless you go with Geshal.
FF7: Lost here. Zack could work, but 7 lacked even side villians since Sephrioth was brought into the game within the first hour.
FF8: Riona/Seifer?
FF9: Heros are easy, but villians.... I'm not so sure what would work. Human version of Necron?
FF10: Yuna and Seymore.
FF11: Please please please please please do Zied/Shadowlord.
FF12: If they add Vann over Balthiere I'll go apeshit. And I guess Vane for the villian? Or maybe Cid?
FF13: Haven't played so can't comment.

Kain would be a much more unique version, but I actually meant to change that to Scholar, since that's the game it originated in. Any FFXIII representation will include Sazh (rightly so), one of the devs is already quoted saying he greatly favors Sazh over the other characters for a Dissidia sequel due to Sazh being the one of the most unique and memorable characters from the game (and in FF series in general).

Admittedly, he is pretty high on the epic scale; he has the perfect mix of Zell's childish charisma, Auron/Basch's wisdom/intellect, and Amarant's pessimism (though he is mostly uplifting through a lot of the game.)

I have to say, I'd have to vote for Hope as well, since he's very similar in growth to Vivi -- it's like watching Vivi develop in HD (despite the random emo bits).

Corrderio, on 06 April 2010 - 02:33 PM, said:

FF7: Lost here. Zack could work, but 7 lacked even side villians since Sephrioth was brought into the game within the first hour.
FF8: Riona/Seifer?
FF9: Heros are easy, but villians.... I'm not so sure what would work. Human version of Necron?

Rufus would make for a feasible second villain for FF7. He was an antagonist through the entire game, regardless of whether he was the main one.

FF9: Lani!!!! DAT ASS!!

This post has been edited by Saniiro: 06 April 2010 - 02:54 PM

[Velhart]

If I was SE, I would wait till we get to at least Final Fantasy 20 to make another. Only thing you can do is add on to more, which sounds silly to me. Now if they did put it on a console, that would be different. But with Versus XIII and Kingdom Hearts 3 in the works, I am doubting this will happen anytime in the future.

[Alkar]

Well there are lots of characters to add and a console version with DLC would be the best choice at this point. Don't really need to wait for FF20 to make another if it's popular enough.
I just want Light thrown in, she'd kick everyone's ass easily (add a scene where she punches Cloud out of his misery please, twice!).

[Corrderio]

.Sotek., on 06 April 2010 - 02:43 PM, said:

Really? Who were the Turks anyway, and Hojo for that matter, fuck add Genesis (from CC but who gives a crap). Even Jenova could work if you think scaling Necron down to human size could work. While I'm on FF9, You'd add Vivi and one of the Black Waltz or I hurt you.

You'll have to excuse me for not paying much attention to the turks since I couldn't take them serious anytime in the game.

Only reason I said human Necron is there isn't a lot to go on in 9 either for Villians. The only reason I suggested Necron is he already looks somewhat human.

[Velhart]

Alkar, on 06 April 2010 - 04:20 PM, said:

Well there are lots of characters to add and a console version with DLC would be the best choice at this point. Don't really need to wait for FF20 to make another if it's popular enough.
I just want Light thrown in, she'd kick everyone's ass easily (add a scene where she punches Cloud out of his misery please, twice!).

I liked how it was Protagonist <-> Antagonist as the roster for fighters. I also liked how all the characters from each side had a connection with one another. I think adding supporting characters would ruin this.

Making a game where you are just "adding" characters out of no where just sounds sketchy and will feel more like a generic fighter. It is fine in other games, but when you make a game where RPG elements are mixed into fighting, adding random characters is hard to pull off successfully.

I don't think SE will give you a Dissidia 2 right away because of "popular demand". If SE actually listened to popular demand, you would have a PS3 remake of FF7 right now.

[Forgotten_Memory]

Beatrix from FF9, is a must for this game to succeed.

[Aeonknight]

Corrderio, on 06 April 2010 - 04:24 PM, said:

You'll have to excuse me for not paying much attention to the turks since I couldn't take them serious anytime in the game.

Only reason I said human Necron is there isn't a lot to go on in 9 either for Villians. The only reason I suggested Necron is he already looks somewhat human.

For FF9, Vivi or Freya (but that might be too many dragoons) as hero and Beatrice or Black Waltz as villian.

For FF4, i'd say Kain as a hero (with the spin that he can go holy dragoon or NQ) and the mysterious girl as secondary villian. these 2 are from FFIV After Years, but if we're talking Crisis Core for 7 it's a legitimate *yoink*.

FF1... Matoya as hero and Evil Elf prince guy as villian.

FF5, either one of the other 4 characters besides Bartz for hero (or even the original Warriors of Dawn. like bartz's dad) and Gilgamesh as villian.

[spira]

interesting..
I'd like to see it become more of a free for all tho..

like Dissidia 2 being on PS3 and having dependable network support for online battles..

and if its home play, split screen for up to 4 players whacking at each other...

FF smash brothers basically lol.

Existing characters should remain. They need to add 1 more protag/antag to XI and XII.. Shadow Lord and Ashe hopefully

Add in FFXIII's 2 characters... Lightning and evil Pope probably...

then 13 additional charactesr for a total of 39 basic characters + 1 hidden FFXIV character lol

my current picks:

I - black belt
II - Minwu
III - Hein
IV- Kain
V - Faris
VI - Celes
VII - Vincent
VIII - Rinoa
IX - Dagger
X - Yuna
XI - Eald'Narche
XII - Vayne
XIII - Hope

unfortunately skewed towards heroes.. but who cares.

[IoriYagami]

what dissidia II will most certainly need is FLASHYNESS. I think thats one of the factors that made dissidia I fun was the great visuals for EX Burst Attacks.

[Alkar]

While it's true that the whole protagonist <-> antagonist was well done I don't agree that adding extra characters would ruin it. Everyone in the party had something against the villain anyway.
FFI-II-III all characters were quite generic so they'll just come up with something;
FFIV everyone hated Golbez either way and they can always add Zemus into the mix (Kain being the best candidate at this point was controlled by both);
FFV you have Lenna and Faris who have lost their father, Galuf who sealed Exdeath long ago and Krile who lost her grandad thanks to Exdeath;
FFVI (excluding minor characters like Umaro and Mog) everyone hates Kefka and has a reason to fight him at the end;
FFVII Tifa has plenty of reasons to go after him and after Aerith's death anyone is good to include anyway;
FFVIII Rinoa, enough said really;
FFIX is a bit tougher but Garnet still lost her mother thanks to Kuja and he kinda manipulated all of them;
FFX you have Yuna and Seymour;
FFXI they can do whatever they want (Prishe most likely);
FFXII Ashe and Vayne;
FFXIII Light and Barty.
As you can see they can add every single villain/character from the series without ruining anything at all. Being on PS3 would allow this game to live for a long time with a good online structure and possibility of DLC for new characters/arenas/music/modes and whatever they can come up with.
Now it's the best time to announce something like this thanks to the hype of the recent FFXIII release and the upcoming FFXIV release. A game like this would sell like crazy.

[Velhart]

Alkar, on 07 April 2010 - 06:16 AM, said:

While it's true that the whole protagonist <-> antagonist was well done I don't agree that adding extra characters would ruin it. Everyone in the party had something against the villain anyway.

Antagonist is not always the villain, it is the character the protagonist has to overcome to progress the story.

Even though Seymour was the villain of FFX, Tidus's whole story was based upon him with the struggle he had with his father.

So if you added a Cosmos character for 12. The most logical way to go to oppose Gabranth would be Basch. I wouldn't add Asche in there since she technically had no conflict with Gabranth besides they were enemies from different kingdoms, that is about it.

I truly believe SE did something right by using the Protagonist <-> Antagonist idea in the fighting game, it made it more interesting and made the characters feel more alive then just slapping them in there and giving them a few moves like most fighting games. I think it is just lazy and doing fan service if they made a new one right away without waiting for a few more Final Fantasy's to come out.

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FFI-II-III all characters were quite generic so they'll just come up with something

I could not disagree with this more. Even though FF1 did not have pre-built characters, they were for your imagination to make up and decide how they are, and with an 8-bit system, you can only add as much depth to a character. FF2 "did" have pre-built characters and all had a reason to fight the empire instead of just being "rawr I hatez the empirez!". FF3 let your imagination decide again, but the Onion Knights did have a back story and was a pretty neat one at that. So I do not think calling them generic is right, but hey, thats your opinion.

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FFIV everyone hated Golbez either way and they can always add Zemus into the mix (Kain being the best candidate at this point was controlled by both)

Zemus was not a character Kain had a conflict with, it was with Cecil and his jealousy over Rosa. Golbez(Zemus) simply used Kain's negative emotions to take advantage of him to greatly oppose Cecil. Kain does not truly resolve this conflict until the After Years when he becomes a Holy Dragoon.

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FFV you have Lenna and Faris who have lost their father, Galuf who sealed Exdeath long ago and Krile who lost her grandad thanks to Exdeath;
FFVI (excluding minor characters like Umaro and Mog) everyone hates Kefka and has a reason to fight him at the end;

This I can agree with to an extent, since there was not truly a main protagonist in these two games, Terra did lean mostly to the lead role, but everyone had an equal conflict in the game, hers was explained the most. For FFV it is the same thing, but it as looked at through Bartz perspective, so it was logical to make him the character for Dissidia.

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FFVIII Rinoa, enough said really;

Kinda confused what you mean here, no one know who Ultimecia was till near the end. I would still say Squall had the greatest conflict, since she used his fear to make Griever, and Griever was in a weird way Squall's test to overcome the conflicts he has with himself.

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FFIX is a bit tougher but Garnet still lost her mother thanks to Kuja and he kinda manipulated all of them;

This doesn't make him her antagonist, it is simply motivation to save the world. Her conflict was with her mother and her doubts to protect her kingdom.

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FFX you have Yuna and Seymour

This is actually one of the original ideas for Dissidia, but since they wanted Tidus in and not Yuna, and Tidus did not have a personal conflict with Seymour, it was more logical to make Jecht his antagonist.

I can't decide when it comes to FFXI. Since I never got into the Shantotto character.

While I respect how you look at it. An antagonist to me is the conflict that character has to overcome to finish his/her story, an antagonist does not necessarily have to be a person. If they make a Dissidia 2, I need connections to make the characters feel alive and not just copy and pasted in there for popular demand. I know SE is smarter than that and if they ever release a Dissidia 2 in the future, I know they will put this into thought and I am sure they will make a better game. I just think they should wait till a few more Final Fantasy's come out to jump into another one.