[draugo]

The media is scary in their misinformation these days. Difference between Gestapo Germany and Arizona: unless you consider Mexico a concentration camp, here's your sign.

Fucking dip-shit ignorant liberals piss me off.

[Zombuh]

Yeah I can't go a day without some dorks in class reciting what they perceive the new law to mean. There must be like 10 different versions of what the law actually means floating around thanks to misinformation from the media.

[pathwriter]

Sorry, what? All I'm reading here is mudslinging. Maybe if you want a discussion, you could state what position you're taking and clarify what misinformation you're referring to. I'm not convinced you're the slightest bit informed on what is going on and, from the looks of it, you have Glenn Beck's arm up to the elbow in your asshole. Next time you want to start a discussion, learn how to make an argument for once.

[Kenshiro]

Real Libertarians would relish in the idea of uneducated, poor, desperate immigrants coming into the country. Why? Cheap fucking Labor. Ayn Rand is spinning in her grave over all the faggotry going on these days.

[Phyrexius]

I know Russell Pearce personally, he's a family friend of mine.

I however disagree with the original version of SB1070. Since it has been amended I haven't taken the time to read over it again, but my lawyer friend Mark Victor tells me that SB1070 will now only be used as a secondary and not as a primary. For example, the no seat belt law is now a secondary offense meaning you can't get pulled over and ticketed JUST for the belt not being on, but if an officer pulls you over for something like speeding, broken headlight etc. then they can get you on the seat belt thing as well.

So from what I'm told this bill would only be used AFTER an officer is in the process of an investigation, unlike the original version where just mere contact with an officer (like waving a middle finger at the Pirate) was enough to ask for "Papers Please". Just ask Pastor Steven Anderson about his run in with the NAZI Border Patrol (which hires illegals to man the posts LoL....O.o?)

All of this aside, along with the MIAC report, UN-Patriot act, Oklahoma's new law (yet to be ratified into law?) making it illegal to be in a Militia (which is not just a right but a duty under the Constitution) the Racist ADL and SPLC Propaganda Machine, blah blah blah (insert Anarchist Rant here) etc. etc. This 4th Reich Liberal NAZI legislation is just one more nail in the coffin of Free Humanity. At least my Pineal gland is healthy and the Dark Side has HFCS filled Chocolate Chip and Peanut Butter Cookies! ().V

[Phyrexius]

Kenshiro, on 02 May 2010 - 03:43 PM, said:

Real Libertarians would relish in the idea of uneducated, poor, desperate immigrants coming into the country. Why? Cheap fucking Labor. Ayn Rand is spinning in her grave over all the faggotry going on these days.

At least you know who Ayn Rand is, did you ever read Atlas Shrugged? I'd like to read it, looks interesting. Real Libertarians don't like the idea of poor, uneducated, desperate people. Most Libertarians that I associate with lean more towards the Agorist open Borders idea, that's the Liberal part of the Libertarian crowd. Maybe it's an isolated group but I doubt it, look at the Free State movement in Keene New Hampshire.

With the current system of the Matrix this "Cheap Labor" aint so cheap after all. One can get free medical, free dental, free child care, free food, free utilities, free home, free everything so the standard of living for one working a minimum wage job is that of someone making 2-3 times more all at the expense of someone else. Government can not "Give" anything, it can only take something from someone somewhere to either grow, replace or abolish an idea, people or infrastructure.

So "Cheap Labor" in essence is expensive labor being that the self proclaimed Robin Hoods and saviors of the Planet (World Governments) steal from the working and give a fractional percentage back into their own voting block to continue the raping and pillaging of the working class under the guise of "helping the poor and needy" while the rest goes into managing the Police State and Propaganda Machine. Watch the youtube Hip-Hop video titled "Fear the Boom and Bust" FIAT monetary might make more sense after doing so if you don't know how fractional reserve banking works already.

Which brings me to another point. Why get pissed at the people taking welfare? I don't do it, I think it's shameful. But rather, getting rid of the tools of control to begin with is the better step. Then, there would be no "collective pot" to begin with. People give more charity when they have more to give and privatizing things almost always in history works better than allowing a Gaggle of Guilty Gestapo Goons do it for you.

You ever wondered why the US Military Industrial Complex annual budget is more than every other country's in the World combined?

[Kenshiro]

I don't think illegals qualify for most of that stuff, outside of basic human rights and necessities. Also, wat?

[Cruzandercerberus]

Kenshiro, on 02 May 2010 - 03:43 PM, said:

Real Libertarians would relish in the idea of uneducated, poor, desperate immigrants coming into the country. Why? Cheap fucking Labor. Ayn Rand is spinning in her grave over all the faggotry going on these days.

Yeah and on the other hand I saw some signs in the anti crowd invoking leftist saint Caesar Chavez. Who happened to not be very supportive of illegal alien scabs breaking up his labor union arm twisting.

Arizona, as well as both national political parties have every incentive to ignore the national noise-fest and continue protecting its own interests. A bunch of illegal alien "rights" protesters are obviously non-entities.

This post has been edited by Cruzandercerberus: 02 May 2010 - 06:08 PM

[Cruzandercerberus]

Phyrexius, on 02 May 2010 - 04:35 PM, said:

Which brings me to another point. Why get pissed at the people taking welfare? I don't do it, I think it's shameful. But rather, getting rid of the tools of control to begin with is the better step. Then, there would be no "collective pot" to begin with. People give more charity when they have more to give and privatizing things almost always in history works better than allowing a Gaggle of Guilty Gestapo Goons do it for you.

Here's the thing. All politicians want to bring home the bacon from the feds for their home states. All that the states really need to do is cut themselves loose from the federal purse string and they'll effectively neuter Obama and his merry band of black nationalist boot lickers. But they won't do that. It would be political suicide at home when the military base or what not that employs shit tons of people packs up and moves away.

This post has been edited by Cruzandercerberus: 02 May 2010 - 06:57 PM

[draugo]

Which is kind of a shameful tactic to begin with,"don't like our politics? You can't have the security of a base in your state"

[Vigilous]

Which is a moot point considering that states have the right to form their own defense forces anyway.

[MrReinhardt]

as long as they don't throw any bbq's like in Waco

[firefeng]

draugo, on 03 May 2010 - 08:32 PM, said:

Which is kind of a shameful tactic to begin with,"don't like our politics? You can't have the economic security of a base in your state"

Because honestly, when's the last time our military force required physical proximity to a state to maintain its martial defenses?

[draugo]

You are right about that, chalk it up to nostalgia and economics I guess.

[Vigilous]

Game. Set. Match.

Arizona Schools Removing Accented Teachers

[Keylime]

Vigilous, on 06 May 2010 - 05:44 AM, said:

Game. Set. Match.

Arizona Schools Removing Accented Teachers

Hello ACLU, my name is discrimination.

[Cruzandercerberus]

French teachers should probably speak french to a degree of proficiency deemed necessary by educators as well.

[draugo]

^this^

[Cruzandercerberus]

Since the lesson is only those identified as "non-whites" are allowed to be ethno-centric, the obvious solution here is all the Mexicans in Arizona should move to California where Hispanic and Latino Americans aren't welcome and vice versa. Repeat until re segregated.

Kids sent home for wearing shirt with american flags on cinco de mayo.

Administrators defend black only field trip, cite achievement gap.

This post has been edited by Cruzandercerberus: 06 May 2010 - 06:37 PM

[Kenshiro]

Mexicans don't celebrate cinco de mayo, americans do, and only as an excuse to drink. What is this I don't even