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Has there been any new definitive data on the numbers for spats/bracers and pigaches? And if they stack, which I would think they would but who knows. I read through some old topics but couldn't find any solid answers.
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 02:25 AM
Suljin, on 18 June 2010 - 09:25 PM, said:
Has there been any new definitive data on the numbers for spats/bracers and pigaches? And if they stack, which I would think they would but who knows. I read through some old topics but couldn't find any solid answers.
Wiki breaks it down pretty well. It's been confirmed they "do" stack.
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 04:43 AM
Wheres that at? I couldn't find anything on there either.
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 05:19 AM
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 11:34 PM
Oh thanks! I even saw that wiki page and glanced over it, totally missed the one line. And wow that post on alla is great. tyvm ^^
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Posted 21 June 2010 - 04:00 AM
kinda makes me wish someone had remembered about those links when slamming pergatory for trolling months back.
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Posted 21 June 2010 - 05:20 AM
Those allakhazam parses are badly flawed.
The sample size used is way too small. I started off doing around 250 swings then on the second page went up to 500-600 swings and was still getting some pretty horrible variance that made it tough to draw conclusions.
I did several neutral parses ( same gear no acc bonus gear ) and over 500+ hit samples the acc varied by more than gear would provide ( ie 2-4% acc differences over different 500 swing samples. The allakhazam guy doesn't even mention how small his samples are and yet asserts his results as 100% reliable factual evidence when in fact it's almost meaningless because his testing environment is flawed and his sample size compounds the problem.
I suffered worse variation on identical level mobs w/ double his sample size than his results showed and yet he's stating his parses as fact, when he didn't even bother to test vs identical level monsters only. When I was gathering info before I even tried parsing I tried doing it vs mobs with a 74-76 level range and was indiscriminate with what I tested on and found the difference betweem them to sway the parses to a ridiculous degree
You can find my parses here: ( I never got everything done I intended to do, a function of time/effort and going inactive in ff11 before finishing ), but I did get quite a lot done.
http://killingifrit....46#entry3723646
Imo you need to go to something like 1500-2000 swing sample sizes to start drawing reliable information from your parses - kind of a pain given that you need to parse vs tough mobs otherwise you'll hit the acc cap - and that it would take many many hours to get done ( maybe 2 samples in a day if you're persistent ).
I did some random tests but didn't get the sample size high enough to post before I went inactive but 99% sure they do stack.
Easy way to test is replicate my test conditions ( 5/5 physical merits ) and see what acc you can parse at and compare vs my neutral and my separate evokers legs/summoners bracers parses.
Would take someone a few hours to get a good sample size and confirm what we all know
The sample size used is way too small. I started off doing around 250 swings then on the second page went up to 500-600 swings and was still getting some pretty horrible variance that made it tough to draw conclusions.
I did several neutral parses ( same gear no acc bonus gear ) and over 500+ hit samples the acc varied by more than gear would provide ( ie 2-4% acc differences over different 500 swing samples. The allakhazam guy doesn't even mention how small his samples are and yet asserts his results as 100% reliable factual evidence when in fact it's almost meaningless because his testing environment is flawed and his sample size compounds the problem.
I suffered worse variation on identical level mobs w/ double his sample size than his results showed and yet he's stating his parses as fact, when he didn't even bother to test vs identical level monsters only. When I was gathering info before I even tried parsing I tried doing it vs mobs with a 74-76 level range and was indiscriminate with what I tested on and found the difference betweem them to sway the parses to a ridiculous degree
You can find my parses here: ( I never got everything done I intended to do, a function of time/effort and going inactive in ff11 before finishing ), but I did get quite a lot done.
http://killingifrit....46#entry3723646
Imo you need to go to something like 1500-2000 swing sample sizes to start drawing reliable information from your parses - kind of a pain given that you need to parse vs tough mobs otherwise you'll hit the acc cap - and that it would take many many hours to get done ( maybe 2 samples in a day if you're persistent ).
I did some random tests but didn't get the sample size high enough to post before I went inactive but 99% sure they do stack.
Easy way to test is replicate my test conditions ( 5/5 physical merits ) and see what acc you can parse at and compare vs my neutral and my separate evokers legs/summoners bracers parses.
Would take someone a few hours to get a good sample size and confirm what we all know
This post has been edited by Gryffes: 21 June 2010 - 05:57 AM
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