[Gryffes]

As we all know - perpetuation goes up as you level and it seems like we should run into another tier of perpetuation cost post 75.

Historical data is here:
http://wiki.ffxiclop...rpetuation_Cost

It seems like we'll avoid a carbuncle cost increase and a fenrir cost increase - but it looks like we'll get hit with a normal avatar this patch and if not this patch it seems likely we'll see perp costs go up across the board by the time the cap is 99.

It seems like SE has a chance to "do us right" but could also put the nail in the classes coffin if a lack of -perp gear to match the new increases occurs.

Anyone fancy putting money on SE getting summoner right one time?

[Demireamer]

i think we will -prep on are af3 equipment at the lest mayby/hopefully more. im willing to bet on a prep-3 body if the split is right

[JudicatorAldaris]

way off topic but did they stop the "check files" get VU faster than everybody else thing?

[spira]

it just doesnt seem to be up yet.

[Gryffes]

It's up now.

[DarkRift]

ALLLRIGHT.


Nirvana
DMG:78 Delay:402 Accuracy+30
Avatar perpetuation cost -5
Avatar: "Magic Atk. Bonus"+25
"Garland of Bliss"
Aftermath (Incl. Avatars):
Inc. Acc./Atk., Occ. attacks twice
Lv 80 SMN


Perp -5.





OK OK OK OK....

So I think I have been reading rumors of possible elemental staves that are upgrades to the current selection?

IF that is true then FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK


BAHAMUTS WILL BE THE NEW ASTRAL SIGNA ;_; ;_; ;_; ;_;

[Gryffes]

DarkRift, on 21 June 2010 - 02:09 PM, said:

So I think I have been reading rumors of possible elemental staves that are upgrades to the current selection?

IF that is true then FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK


BAHAMUTS WILL BE THE NEW ASTRAL SIGNA ;_; ;_; ;_; ;_;

There are a bunch of staves with no visible stats on them - either stuff you upgrade via trials/abyssea or replacements for elemental staves - or both.

[Vangoh32]

Ok any post 75 SMNs can confirm how many MP/ticks are going up on each avatar? I don't quite understand (or want to believe) wiki's chart for avatar perpetuation. WHAT THE FUCK IS GONNA HAPPEN TO CARBY?!?!! Is it still free at lvl 80?!?!?!?!?! ZOMG!!!!!! I couldn't bare to lose that rodent bastard....I guess carby mitts adjust to your lvl don't it? yeah...I think that's it....yeah...but what about the rest? I could finally have the rest free with all my avatar perp - gear and now it's all gone to the toilet?!

[Lilsoulreaver]

Vangoh32, on 23 June 2010 - 01:18 PM, said:

Ok any post 75 SMNs can confirm how many MP/ticks are going up on each avatar? I don't quite understand (or want to believe) wiki's chart for avatar perpetuation. WHAT THE FUCK IS GONNA HAPPEN TO CARBY?!?!! Is it still free at lvl 80?!?!?!?!?! ZOMG!!!!!! I couldn't bare to lose that rodent bastard....I guess carby mitts adjust to your lvl don't it? yeah...I think that's it....yeah...but what about the rest? I could finally have the rest free with all my avatar perp - gear and now it's all gone to the toilet?!

At lvl 80. Elemental Avatars (garuda, titan, etc) are 2MP/Tick more expensive.

[Meian]

What about Carby, Fenrir, and Diabolos? I ask this in curiousity in regards to me upgrading my Teiwez to the -5 and would assume they'd be +1 more mp at least in the case of Fenrir

[Rakshaka]

Here's a link to all the perp costs at every level:
http://wiki.ffxiclop...rpetuation_Cost

[ElensarFFXI]

Using The - perp gear i have which is bahamuts staff, evoker's ring, evoker's pigaches +1 nashira gages and YinYang Robe this is what I can report on perp sufferings.


At level 80 if anyone is interested Carbuncle is still out and giving me 1mp refresh (obviously with Carby mittens i can also use my AF2 feet instead of AF1+1)

Celestial Avatars and Diabolos drain me @ 7mp per tick X_x

Fenrir Drains me @ 5mp per tick

Elementals Drain me @ 13 mp per tick


Im kinda gutted my bahamut staff is further reduced in its greatness.... The -5 perp cost Magian weapons are certainly desirable now even if I would only get a select few (the whol epoint of bahamut staff fo rme was to avoid trucking around 8 staves lol) some of you guys will have better -perp sets than myself but I guess the grind for more -perp gear begins.... pretty depressing for me as it took me a very VERY long time to get my smn to the point its at.

Anyways, ~peace

[Vangoh32]

Lilsoulreaver, on 27 June 2010 - 11:44 PM, said:

At lvl 80. Elemental Avatars (garuda, titan, etc) are 2MP/Tick more expensive.

I just checked the link that got posted about the perpetuation chart. And the perpetuation for the elemental AVATARS stays the same, it only goes up for the elemental SPIRITS. So for now we're safe to know that the avatars we actually use won't drain more mp than they are.

And as for the Teiwaz staves, fuck that shit. Whoever has all of the 8 fully upgraded Teiwaz staves have no life!

[Lilsoulreaver]

Vangoh32, on 29 June 2010 - 12:24 AM, said:

I just checked the link that got posted about the perpetuation chart. And the perpetuation for the elemental AVATARS stays the same, it only goes up for the elemental SPIRITS. So for now we're safe to know that the avatars we actually use won't drain more mp than they are.

And as for the Teiwaz staves, fuck that shit. Whoever has all of the 8 fully upgraded Teiwaz staves have no life!

I have no life and I'm getting all 8! After the MaB +10 of course. (probably cure +17% for light staff though, since carby still free)

This post has been edited by Lilsoulreaver: 29 June 2010 - 01:00 AM

[Vangoh32]

Lilsoulreaver, on 29 June 2010 - 12:59 AM, said:

I have no life and I'm getting all 8! After the MaB +10 of course. (probably cure +17% for light staff though, since carby still free)

You know what? They don't seem that hard to get actually just a looooot of time to spend on them I actually thought of getting wind one for garuda. But I rather wait to see wtf is up with the empyrial weapon maybe it'll have -5 perp on all avatars lol then I'm gonna laugh...of course at the cost of something crazy. SE gotta cut the crap and stop giving insane tasks for gear.

[Meian]

I'm going to laugh if the new physical bps in the future makes Garuda lol-worthy causing the ones who got the -perp for Garuda to be pissed

[Lilsoulreaver]

Meian, on 29 June 2010 - 11:45 PM, said:

I'm going to laugh if the new physical bps in the future makes Garuda lol-worthy causing the ones who got the -perp for Garuda to be pissed

I use Thunderstorm and Heavenly Strike more than Predator Claws. My damage with those is more consistant on most mobs. I don't forsee better magical pacts in the future. I plan to go Dark, Ice, Thunder, and last Wind. The others, well, they'll have to wait to see if SE decides to get them something to make them "not" LOL-Worthy.

[Alkar]

The only "lol" avatar is Ifrit really. All the others are useful in one way or another.

[spira]

according to the wiki chart..

perp cost for carby / fenrir / avatars / spirits has gone from
at 75: 9 / 11/ 13 / 18

at 80: 10 / 12 / 14 / 20

which is only 1mp/tic more for all except spirits.. pretty good really, considering how avatars cost steeped up really quickly between 65-75.

Almost everything will become virtually the same as long as you can get your hands on an additional perp cost, such as with Augur's Brais.. wonder where that comes from..

[Meian]

So it is only +1 increase then for sure? That means the -5 staff will put my Fenrir back at the same level as it was before, oh well... maybe if we can find the -1 head piece for Fenrir...

The magian trial for raptor isn't too bad but getting killing blow on slimes with Fenrir is going to be bothersome, least no weather anymore. Was that new BP for Fenrir magic based?