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View Postrambus, on 02 July 2010 - 05:33 AM, said:

oh i agree i wish i can get someone to cast some water V though to see the potonal climb in V spells but i do estmate that aero V may be able to mach am IIs in favorable d int situations where fire V would just cream them.

with water V already out to blms what will awat at 99? VI spells? i think they need to change what we acess though addendum: black as well.

as far as your set why do you feel it is broken? did you math it out to see your not getting all your stats or something?

im more concerned with making modus veritas meruts usless. shows you how smart SE is.


Instead of giving a piece by piece analysis, I'll just explain it with the bodies because it's alot shorter and to the points. I know for a fact it's broken, if you look at my screenshots (Post Pictures of your Scholar topic), you can see my Ebur Coat, when vs. Amorphs totals 8 Magic Attack Bonus and 5 INT, Vs. Mrgn Cotehardie which has Magic Attack Bonus +8. I tested it against multiple types of Amorph Mobs of various levels, Ebony Puddings, Slimes, and Leeches. On all tests my Mrgn. Cotehardie Came out on top, which clearly means The Magic Attack Bonus +4 Evoliths are not working, otherwise the ebur coat still has 5 INT over Mrgn. The Lightning Magic Critical hit is still intact and I managed to get to proc normally during a Thunder I spam on a Slime in phominua aquaducts.

What I'm going to attempt, in hopes to fix this, is replace an evolith with the very same evolith, maybe that will reset it? It's worth a try at the very least, I'll get another Vs. Amorphs magic Attack Bonus +4 evolith and replace the current one with that (If that's Possible). I Know I can override it with different evoliths, not sure if it will let me do so with the same. I'm guessing somewhere along the lines when they made evoliths sellable to npc and tradable whats-their-faces for Conquest points, they screwed up the actual stats themselves. My main issue is, I still have yet to find someone who actually has the ebur set or any piece of ebur what so ever who can compair and see if they are having the same issue as well. My only other guess is that they renamed or revamped the text on some evoliths, but already placed augments became invalid for those who had already done so? That's the main reason I want to try getting a new evolith, just to see if the text of the augment is the same as the ones currently placed on all of my ebur.
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View PostPofo, on 05 July 2010 - 05:34 PM, said:

Instead of giving a piece by piece analysis, I'll just explain it with the bodies because it's alot shorter and to the points. I know for a fact it's broken, if you look at my screenshots (Post Pictures of your Scholar topic), you can see my Ebur Coat, when vs. Amorphs totals 8 Magic Attack Bonus and 5 INT, Vs. Mrgn Cotehardie which has Magic Attack Bonus +8. I tested it against multiple types of Amorph Mobs of various levels, Ebony Puddings, Slimes, and Leeches. On all tests my Mrgn. Cotehardie Came out on top, which clearly means The Magic Attack Bonus +4 Evoliths are not working, otherwise the ebur coat still has 5 INT over Mrgn. The Lightning Magic Critical hit is still intact and I managed to get to proc normally during a Thunder I spam on a Slime in phominua aquaducts.

What I'm going to attempt, in hopes to fix this, is replace an evolith with the very same evolith, maybe that will reset it? It's worth a try at the very least, I'll get another Vs. Amorphs magic Attack Bonus +4 evolith and replace the current one with that (If that's Possible). I Know I can override it with different evoliths, not sure if it will let me do so with the same. I'm guessing somewhere along the lines when they made evoliths sellable to npc and tradable whats-their-faces for Conquest points, they screwed up the actual stats themselves. My main issue is, I still have yet to find someone who actually has the ebur set or any piece of ebur what so ever who can compair and see if they are having the same issue as well. My only other guess is that they renamed or revamped the text on some evoliths, but already placed augments became invalid for those who had already done so? That's the main reason I want to try getting a new evolith, just to see if the text of the augment is the same as the ones currently placed on all of my ebur.

thats where im lsot i do not get syngery, nuke a level 1 mob on /whm with it and with it out equip and see what bonus is not working.

if you do not know how to do that just post you numbers andi can figure it out

you have to explain the different parts to me though i dont get that stuff nor do i want to sincei t only works on one type of mob i dont care for of having it.

there is this issue though, that mob it works on, is there any level 1 versions of that mob you can get a friend to burn it so you can nuke a mob as /whm?

point of this how do you know its the 4 mab? how do you knwo its not crt hit or the 5 int or something?

or that the 4 mab is giving 2 mab i wanna figure out what is exactly not working

who knows maybe wends maint will fix it

This post has been edited by rambus: 06 July 2010 - 02:01 AM

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Stone V is pretty sweet, I broke 1800 w/o Obi on KB the other day. Also there's a solo camp for 77+ using smn elementals, and Stone V can 1-shot on any day, while Bliz and Thunder IV needs day/weather bonuses to 1-shot.

I don't think I'm going to waste time going for the +earth dmg staff, I like to keep my terra's for my idle set anyways, and my inv space is getting kind of limited, but I think I'm going to get my obi
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FInished Kubera's Staff, actually did it a week ago.. But work has had me really busy~ Anyways...

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Also, sorry Rambus, I never had a chance to give you the direct numbers from my Ebur, I'll edit this post with them later on in the day.

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View PostHercule, on 26 June 2010 - 11:26 PM, said:

Dingued SCH 80 today,
Tried Stone V during Earth Day + weather + obi its fun :3

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2 shot pudding

+ Convert SCH comming total amazing

I really don't want to level SCH. I really don't. I also really wish that screenshot wasn't so amazing and convincing me to level SCH for a BLM or RDM substitute.
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is this why the BLM forums seem dead? lol

This is kinda making me think I need to level scholar too to substitute my BLM >< wonder what is in store for blm...
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View PostSlib, on 02 August 2010 - 06:44 AM, said:

is this why the BLM forums seem dead? lol

This is kinda making me think I need to level scholar too to substitute my BLM >< wonder what is in store for blm...

I did that once thunder IV was in SCH hands, couse stone V makes it a better agurment to compare to AM II, it will olny out do us by a long shot when they have a lot of merits in it for a MB.

plus i got my self a 20k pair of "herld gaiters" that way.

once i get water V, now that i took blm to 80 cuz someone wanted it in abbisa pt and leveling blm sucks so i took the invite for BLM, i will run some tests on water V and try to pinpoint the V spells more since i want to know how they compare to AM II on the mathematical level. Even though I was off by 1 damage, something may be off so i want to make sure i get the rounding and such right. be ince if i knew someone that was good at this still.

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View Postfyreus, on 01 August 2010 - 06:22 AM, said:

I really don't want to level SCH. I really don't. I also really wish that screenshot wasn't so amazing and convincing me to level SCH for a BLM or RDM substitute.


Was taken with all lv 75 basic gear and usual HQ staves just after i dingued lv 80

Look like its more like this with actual lv 80 gear
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But i spend my time on my DD so idk my SCH is still on lv 75stuff

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View PostHercule, on 04 August 2010 - 07:03 AM, said:

Was taken with all lv 75 basic gear and usual HQ staves just after i dingued lv 80

Look like its more like this with actual lv 80 gear
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But i spend my time on my DD so idk my SCH is still on lv 75stuff

thats ebur not level 80 gear
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View Postrambus, on 25 August 2010 - 02:20 AM, said:

thats ebur not level 80 gear


Actually It's not, as stated Ebur gear is still broken and I'm just about THIS close to tossing it for +5 inven, If Ebur gear was working and I had Earth Magic crit on That could have easily been over 3400~ That particular nuke there was just /BLM'ed and Burned, Ive made a few gear upgrades since then though, nothing too game breaking, but I could do slightly more then that SS~ Witchstone, Soma's Staff, varuna's Staff, Agni's Staff~ and Just got Augur's Body / Cognition Belt yestarday (for helix's). But yeah, fuck you SE. almost 3 months and no fix.
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View PostPofo, on 25 August 2010 - 01:20 PM, said:

Actually It's not, as stated Ebur gear is still broken and I'm just about THIS close to tossing it for +5 inven, If Ebur gear was working and I had Earth Magic crit on That could have easily been over 3400~ That particular nuke there was just /BLM'ed and Burned, Ive made a few gear upgrades since then though, nothing too game breaking, but I could do slightly more then that SS~ Witchstone, Soma's Staff, varuna's Staff, Agni's Staff~ and Just got Augur's Body / Cognition Belt yestarday (for helix's). But yeah, fuck you SE. almost 3 months and no fix.

they only change something if enough people complain about it.
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Tests incoming after Abyssea run (or during depending if I can do maths at 4am).

EDIT: Eyeballing looks like there's no potency bonus at all. Guess I'll look at MP cost or something.

EDIT: Ok ignore that, looks like a 5% bonus, to both Rapture and Ebullience (though I guess I need to test Ebullience a bit more).
100% sure its +5% extra for Rapture though. Cure 3 did 214, with just Rapture 321 (+50%), with Rapture and afv3 331 (+55%).

EDIT: +5% for Ebullience too. Normal Bliz4 1061, normal Ebullience 1276 (+~20%), AFv3 Ebullience 1326 (+~25%).

Now I want to get the feet so I can see what Enhances Klimaform does >_> Makes me glad I never got Augur feet.
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View Post.Sotek., on 12 September 2010 - 09:27 PM, said:

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Tests incoming after Abyssea run (or during depending if I can do maths at 4am).

EDIT: Eyeballing looks like there's no potency bonus at all. Guess I'll look at MP cost or something.

EDIT: Ok ignore that, looks like a 5% bonus, to both Rapture and Ebullience (though I guess I need to test Ebullience a bit more).
100% sure its +5% extra for Rapture though. Cure 3 did 214, with just Rapture 321 (+50%), with Rapture and afv3 331 (+55%).

EDIT: +5% for Ebullience too. Normal Bliz4 1061, normal Ebullience 1276 (+~20%), AFv3 Ebullience 1326 (+~25%).

Now I want to get the feet so I can see what Enhances Klimaform does >_> Makes me glad I never got Augur feet.


Sotek can you test to see if the bonus is applied when you use the JA, or if this piece needs to stay on when you cast please?
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It's the same as relic feet. Need to cast with it on to get the bonus.
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kinda figured that, but couldn't hurt to check, thanks for checking
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