[Vawtwee]

Going off of some BG posts and doing my own looking up and whatnot, this is seemingly the best build I could come up with.

Apoc
Rose
White Tathlum
Turban
Ancient/Justice
Abyssal/Assault/Aesir/Ethereal
Brutal Earring
Aurum Cuirass
Dusk +1 (or the new str 4 haste 4 ones)
Hoard Ring
Rajas
Tactical Mantle
Goading Belt
Blitzer/Homam
Homam Feet

This gives you 20.7 tp a hit, which is 82.8 tp over 4 hits. Doing a FULL ws swap will give you 17.5 tp, bringing the total tp to 100.3.

Assuming level 80:
The advantages of this build are that it also allows for a full aftermath build (- the ring & feet slot), and doesn't require carbonara.

The disadvantages are sub-par accuracy (420ish with hasso, slightly more during aftermath), but if diabolic eye is staggered with souleater it shouldn't be too bad. Also the build doesn't have too much attack, but with the food slot freed up or chaos roll that should be balanced as well.

Other options include swapping out six STP somewhere in order to use carbonara. If carbonara was used you could use Belenos' Mantle (attack 8 acc 8 stp 2) to also switch out the ammo piece.

Edit: I fail. Belenos's Mantle isn't equippable by drk. NEVERMIND>

Anyway, feel free to contribute or leave your own thoughts. There seems to be an excess amount of stp gear this update, which is good. I would imagine that there has to be a reliable five hit build somewhere in here.

This post has been edited by Vawtwee: 27 June 2010 - 11:29 PM

[UNCTGTG]

Have you taken into consideration the new acc cause the skill goes up, the +25 acc we get when we do the trials.

Also This is nothing new. I have been doing 4/5 hit builds since cor came out.

So its nothing new, right now I am working on conserve TP and testing that out.

But again its really nice seeing the new gear built in.

This post has been edited by UNCTGTG: 25 June 2010 - 04:40 PM

[Vawtwee]

I meant new as in a new possible build, not a new idea >_>.

The biggest problem involving previous builds are that they require carbonara, which limits attack gained by food, sacrifices ebody, which this still does, or you need sam roll, which thankfully this does not. Shit is situational of course but this build also allows for more possible situations to hit a 4 hit during a party.

Cor needs a 2 or 9 and up (7 and up with carbonara). If carbonara is used with a cor (sam in the party) this means there's a 54% chance of a four hit build, probably a lot higher if the cor knows what he's doing.

And yeah, the build does take into account the 25 accuracy gained from skill and the level 80 weapon. The idea isn't amazing but it's nice that there's gear coming out that makes this a more reliable thing/situation. I can only pray for more equipment that allows a greater chance of a four-hit with a cor in the party, a five hit without sacrificing so many slots, or finding a way to not give up a good body piece.

[Hercule]

If you only miss some TP like 1 or 2 TP, you can include in your TPbuild macro /equip neck "Berserker's Torque" (for like 1 or 2 Tic) on this exemple you loose 50 or 100HP per WS round, the healer will not notice it and you can maybe save your Ebody

This post has been edited by Hercule: 25 June 2010 - 09:11 PM

[Nameless]

Yea, with spellcast, it is actually extremely easy to implement it. You can even make it go if HP is under 50%, don't do it etc.... one of the more useful torque in the game if you can efficiently use it.

[Vawtwee]

Man, I never even thought of using berserker's torque, lol. It's practical for normal drk usage as long as you dont forget to unequip it and have a decent healer, but with cata's drain it should hardly be much of a problem.

Somebody who's good at spellcast should write the code for that, lol. I just got into spellcast to help set up my aftermath build, so I'm not too great at it yet.

[Hercule]

New easy 5hits Build



+ Weapon easy to get with basic Magian Trials

[Wakmidget]

Hercule, on 28 June 2010 - 03:36 PM, said:

New easy 5hits Build



+ Weapon easy to get with basic Magian Trials

I saw this weapon earlier today, does anyone happen to know exactly how much Store TP a DRK would need to reach a 5-hit build? Never really looked too much in to 5-hit since it sacrificed way too much before.

[Logan Draconia]

With 528 delay, you need 39 sTP for a 5 hit build. 15 from /SAM means 24 from gear.

[firefeng]

37. Don't use scythe if you're not using Guillotine.

[Wakmidget]

Hmmm, So Reckoning(+7), Rose Strap(+4), Brutal Earring(+1), Rajas Ring(+5), White Tathlum(+2), and Carbonara(+6) or Arrabiata(+5) should give you +25 or 26 depending what food you go for.

Looks like enough for a fake 5-hit using Guillotine as long as you hit 3-4 hits of it. Any better Store TP option out there I'm missing? Would be nice to hit the +27 mark w/o losing much.

[UNCTGTG]

Goading belt.

[Bikpik]

Wakmidget, on 29 July 2010 - 06:12 AM, said:

Hmmm, So Reckoning(+7), Rose Strap(+4), Brutal Earring(+1), Rajas Ring(+5), White Tathlum(+2), and Carbonara(+6) or Arrabiata(+5) should give you +25 or 26 depending what food you go for.

Looks like enough for a fake 5-hit using Guillotine as long as you hit 3-4 hits of it. Any better Store TP option out there I'm missing? Would be nice to hit the +27 mark w/o losing much.

Aurum or Askar body. And why would you want to hit +27stp anyways?

[Wakmidget]

UNCTGTG, on 29 July 2010 - 07:21 AM, said:

Goading belt.

I saw it but I don't really like it. It's a nice haste piece for sure. But you would have to WS in it to use it as part of the 5-hit. Every piece I have listed in that post above I would use for TP & WS.

Bikpik, on 29 July 2010 - 07:28 AM, said:

Aurum or Askar body. And why would you want to hit +27stp anyways?

You lose a lot of accuracy going from Hauby/Pearle/Adaman to those. And w/ this new Scythe you don't even need to take that loss any more, that's what makes it so neat.

[Bikpik]

Wakmidget, on 29 July 2010 - 09:40 PM, said:

I saw it but I don't really like it. It's a nice haste piece for sure. But you would have to WS in it to use it as part of the 5-hit. Every piece I have listed in that post above I would use for TP & WS.




You lose a lot of accuracy going from Hauby/Pearle/Adaman to those. And w/ this new Scythe you don't even need to take that loss any more, that's what makes it so neat.

For Acc calculations

Aurum - +8 Dex
Perle - +4Dex +8 Acc
Haub+1 - +6 Dex +12 Acc
E.body - +10 Dex +15Acc

So at most you're giving up 2 Dex and 15 Acc, and over Perle you're giving up 8Acc but gaining 4Dex. Yet you condone eating Carbonara over Pizza and Pizza caps at 44 Acc?

Also, why are you trying to get +27 stp in your setup? as /sam you only need +24 for a true 5hit, and as /anything else you only need +15 stp for 6hit.

[Wakmidget]

Bikpik, on 30 July 2010 - 06:37 AM, said:

For Acc calculations

Aurum - +8 Dex
Perle - +4Dex +8 Acc
Haub+1 - +6 Dex +12 Acc
E.body - +10 Dex +15Acc

So at most you're giving up 2 Dex and 15 Acc, and over Perle you're giving up 8Acc but gaining 4Dex. Yet you condone eating Carbonara over Pizza and Pizza caps at 44 Acc?

Also, why are you trying to get +27 stp in your setup? as /sam you only need +24 for a true 5hit, and as /anything else you only need +15 stp for 6hit.

I have never used Pizza on DRK, the only things I've ever used it on are dynamis-style events or EXP, and everytime I've parsed I come out 92%+ if not capped acc. Usually I used HedgeHog Pie.

I am very happy w/ my acc atm, though I can still improve.

I assumed the 2 ppl that posted after my 1st post we're talking about True 5-hit and and fake 5-hit sicne the 2nd poster was say we only need to use Guillotine(4-hit WS).