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Corseca or Rhongomiant?

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Corsesca
(Polearm)All Races
DMG: 48 Delay: 507
DMG:+31
Occ. atk. twice
Lv. 80 DRG

Rhongomiant
(Polearm)All Races
DMG:111 Delay:492
Lv. 80 DRG

Which is the better choice? Currently on Trial 431 and want to know before i make the wrong discision. Reasoning as to why would be appreciated. Sorry if this has already been addressed somewhere else in the forum.

Polearm Trials

This post has been edited by -Mimiruu-: 27 June 2010 - 11:16 AM

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Well, let's see.

WS: Drakesbane (50%STR WSC)
STR: 150
VIT: 95
Delay: 3% difference in favor of Rhongomiant.
OAT: 40% in favor of Corsesca.
Enemy VIT: 75


Rhongomiant:
WS: 111+62+18= 191*4 = 764 Damage
DoT: 111+18= 129 Damage
Jump: 111+18+37= 166 Damage

Corsesca:
WS: 79+62+16= 157*4 = 628*1.37 = 860 Damage
DoT: 79+16= 85*1.37 = 116 Damage
Jump: 79+16+37= 132*1.4 = 184 Damage

WS: 764/860= 11.2*.45= 5.04% advantage to Corsesca.
DoT: 116/129= 10.1*.45= 4.54% advantage to Rhongomiant.
Jump: 166/184= 10.9*.1= 1.08% advantage to Corsesca.

Corsesca wins by a grand total of 1.58%. This drops once you account for TP overflow. I imagine Rhongomiant will destroy Corsesca when the next update rolls around.

As it stands now, I'm almost positive completed Gungnir reclaimed top dog.

Also, you wont make be able to get as much TP from spirit link if you're WSing so fast. Not much of a difference, but it's still there. TP overflow will likely increase due to Conserve TP kicking in.

I think OAT Polearms run as top dog was short lived.
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I'm doing the Rhongomiant route now for the sake of pioneering.

Fuck VNM, I can't get anyone to do Shoggoth.

This post has been edited by Kanti: 27 June 2010 - 01:06 PM

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Higher delay frees up body slot for something without STP~
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In addtion to that, you also need to count the TP from jump and high jump. For every overflow, there is going to be a jump or high jump DA and make up for the wasted DA, not to mention you now have sekkanoki every 5 mins, a bit of TP overflow is not as bad of a problem as before. In addition to that, unless you are fighting EM mob all the time, you are not going to have capped fstr for either TPing or WSing. In other words, you are not going to be able to take advantage of the higher fstr cap on anything meaningful like you have suggested in your calculation. All that will be big factors to consider. Also not to forget, the more frequent you WS, the more frequent your wyvern will be doing breath attack, and those breath attack won't go down just cuz you are using a lower dmg weapon, they stay the same. So the more you spam the better it is, unless of course you don't count your wyvern's damage or won't be able to keep it alive then that's a whole other story.

Stp gears from the new update will make true 6 hit much easier with 492 delay polearm (now that with sonic thrust, a true 6 hit becomes slightly more important especially for harder mobs), tho OAT polearm will be able to use sword strap if that extra delay is not needed. Also, who is to say that Rhongomiant will be the only final skin for magian weapons. I suspect the next two updates, we will possibly be getting the final skin for the OAT line and others. Remember, there are 3 addons, it wouldn't surprise me to see two more final skins. Not to mention, getting Rhongomiant is no cake walk, it is far harder than OAT comparing their last trial.
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Seems Rhongo is the route to take then, although i'll probably be sitting on DMG+14 Oathkeeper for a long...long time.
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I don't see how you get Rhongo is the way to go out of that, but if there is indeed only one final skin for all magian weapons, then it would be wise to get Rhongo since SE will make it better than the rest for obvious reason. OAT is easier and for now better than Rhongo.
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