[Cream Soda]

This is as mnk/nin up until the point where allies split up for the eyes. I'll start parse again once all the dds are back

Used mantis dmg+7 and asuran for about 5 mins when my footwork got dispelled.

Weaponskills
    Asuran Fists
     713  961  873  706
+     706:    1
+     713:    1
+^    873:    1
+     961:    1
    Tornado Kick
     970  933 1392  737  922  977  655 1459 1459 1067
    1464 1655 1238  856  950 1193 1216  624  528 1250
     789  677 1141  771 1343 1072  507 1102 1223 1481

Damage Summary
Player               Total Dmg   Damage %   Melee Dmg   Range Dmg   Abil. Dmg  WSkill Dmg   Spell Dmg  Other Dmg
Aniyah                    7701     2.31 %           0           0           0           0        7701          0
Braarg                   10049     3.01 %        5354           0          89        3184           0       1422
Celfer                   20363     6.11 %       12792           0           0        7571           0          0
Cuteybaby                25676     7.70 %        9419          69           0       13441           0       2747
Dolphincat               17499     5.25 %           0           0           0           0       17499          0
Fionaa                   15408     4.62 %           0           0           0           0       15408          0
Hyakufists               43286    12.98 %       17407           0           0       25879           0          0
Issa                     11472     3.44 %       11120           0         352           0           0          0
Kisu                     15771     4.73 %           0           0           0           0       15771          0
Lydia                     8207     2.46 %        5090           0           0        2300         316        501
Merow                    44348    13.30 %       14734           0           0       29614           0          0
Nihil                        8     0.00 %           0           0           0           0           8          0
Raesvelg                   194     0.06 %         194           0           0           0           0          0
Thejon                     542     0.16 %           0           0           0           0         542          0
Tigerwoods               70507    21.15 %       35287           0           0       34904           0        316
Vestal                   40697    12.21 %       24002           0           0       15234         838        623
SC: Detonation             222     0.07 %           0           0           0           0           0          0
SC: Fragmentation          171     0.05 %           0           0           0           0           0          0
SC: Impaction              427     0.13 %           0           0           0           0           0          0
SC: Light                  471     0.14 %           0           0           0           0           0          0
SC: Reverberation          377     0.11 %           0           0           0           0           0          0
Total                   333396   100.00 %      135399          69         441      132127       58083       5609


Melee Damage
Player            Melee Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi    M.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C.Avg     Crit%
Braarg                 5354   53.28 %    183/101   64.44 %      0/51    25.75     16     41/97   65.81    8.74 %
Celfer                12792   62.82 %     148/11   93.08 %     0/188    74.44     17     0/282  178.82   11.49 %
Cuteybaby              9419   36.68 %     467/51   90.15 %      0/43    18.45     25     0/249   50.48    5.35 %
Hyakufists            17407   40.21 %     204/19   91.48 %     0/152    76.54     25     0/214  148.24   12.25 %
Issa                  11120   96.93 %     444/37   92.31 %      0/48    23.13     39      0/78   44.92    8.78 %
Lydia                  5090   62.02 %    454/121   78.96 %      0/43     9.67     39      0/73   27.64    8.59 %
Merow                 14734   33.22 %     155/10   93.94 %     0/212    87.56     20     0/235  145.70   12.90 %
Raesvelg                194  100.00 %      29/13   69.05 %       4/8     6.12      3     11/13   11.67   10.34 %
Tigerwoods            35287   50.05 %     317/12   96.35 %     0/198    98.04     44     0/281  193.68   13.88 %
Vestal                24002   58.98 %     771/83   90.28 %     0/255    27.55    109     0/335   52.90   14.14 %


Ranged Damage
Player            Range Dmg   Range %   Hit/Miss   R.Acc %  R.Low/Hi    R.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C.Avg     Crit%
Cuteybaby                69    0.27 %        7/0  100.00 %      3/23     9.86      0       0/0    0.00    0.00 %


Other Magical Damage  (Additional Effects and Spikes)
Player            M.AE Dmg  # M.AE  M.AE Avg   R.AE Dmg  # R.AE  R.AE Avg   Spk.Dmg  # Spike  Spk.Avg
Braarg                 434      33     13.15          0       0      0.00       988       47    21.02
Cuteybaby             2747     139     19.76          0       0      0.00         0        0     0.00
Lydia                  501      34     14.74          0       0      0.00         0        0     0.00
Vestal                 623      35     17.80          0       0      0.00         0        0     0.00


Other Physical Damage  (Counterattacks and Retaliations)
Player            CA.Dmg  CA.Hit/Miss  CA.Low/Hi  CA.Avg   Ret.Dmg  Ret.Hit/Miss  Ret.Low/Hi  Ret.Avg
Tigerwoods           316          4/0     39/105   79.00         0           0/0         0/0     0.00


Weaponskill Damage
Player                 WSkill Dmg   WSkill %  Hit/Miss   WS.Acc %   WS.Low/Hi   WS.Avg
Braarg                       3184    31.68 %       8/0   100.00 %     224/571   398.00
 - Atonement                 3184   100.00 %       8/0   100.00 %     224/571   398.00
Celfer                       7571    37.18 %      13/1    92.86 %    304/1248   582.38
 - King's Justice             501     6.62 %       1/0   100.00 %     501/501   501.00
 - Raging Rush               6665    88.03 %      11/1    91.67 %    304/1248   605.91
 - Rampage                    405     5.35 %       1/0   100.00 %     405/405   405.00
Cuteybaby                   13441    52.35 %      21/0   100.00 %     305/994   640.05
 - Dancing Edge             13441   100.00 %      21/0   100.00 %     305/994   640.05
Hyakufists                  25879    59.79 %      34/6    85.00 %    319/1408   761.15
 - Tachi: Gekko             13143    50.79 %      16/1    94.12 %    467/1253   821.44
 - Tachi: Kasha              9804    37.88 %      13/3    81.25 %    391/1408   754.15
 - Tachi: Rana                571     2.21 %       1/0   100.00 %     571/571   571.00
 - Tachi: Yukikaze           2361     9.12 %       4/2    66.67 %     319/777   590.25
Lydia                        2300    28.02 %      13/0   100.00 %       0/412   176.92
 - Hexa Strike               1687    73.35 %       8/0   100.00 %       2/412   210.88
 - Mystic Boon                613    26.65 %       5/0   100.00 %       0/253   122.60
Merow                       29614    66.78 %      33/3    91.67 %      0/1452   897.39
 - Tachi: Gekko             28541    96.38 %      31/3    91.18 %      0/1452   920.68
 - Tachi: Rana               1073     3.62 %       2/0   100.00 %     479/594   536.50
Tigerwoods                  34904    49.50 %      34/1    97.14 %    507/1655  1026.59
 - Asuran Fists              3253     9.32 %       4/0   100.00 %     706/961   813.25
 - Tornado Kick             31651    90.68 %      30/1    96.77 %    507/1655  1055.03
Vestal                      15234    37.43 %      32/1    96.97 %       0/894   476.06
 - Blade: Jin               11581    76.02 %      21/0   100.00 %     114/894   551.48
 - Blade: Metsu              3653    23.98 %      11/1    91.67 %       0/646   332.09


Ability Damage
Player                  Abil. Dmg    Abil. %  Hit/Miss    A.Acc %    A.Low/Hi    A.Avg
Braarg                         89     0.89 %       4/0   100.00 %       22/23    22.25
 - Shield Bash                 89   100.00 %       4/0   100.00 %       22/23    22.25
Hyakufists                      0     0.00 %       3/0   100.00 %         0/0     0.00
 - Blade Bash                   0     0.00 %       3/0   100.00 %         0/0     0.00
Issa                          352     3.07 %      12/0   100.00 %       17/43    29.33
 - Violent Flourish           352   100.00 %      12/0   100.00 %       17/43    29.33
Merow                           0     0.00 %       3/0   100.00 %         0/0     0.00
 - Blade Bash                   0     0.00 %       3/0   100.00 %         0/0     0.00


Spell Damage
Player                  Spell Dmg   Spell %  #Spells  #Fail  S.Low/Hi     S.Avg  #MBurst  MB.Low/Hi   MB.Avg
Aniyah                       7701  100.00 %       20      0   35/1305    385.05        0        0/0     0.00
 - Blizzard IV                324    4.21 %        1      0   324/324    324.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Burst II                  1305   16.95 %        1      0 1305/1305   1305.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Drain                      628    8.15 %        7      0    35/278     89.71        0        0/0     0.00
 - Freeze II                  388    5.04 %        1      0   388/388    388.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Thunder IV                5056   65.65 %       10      0   342/930    505.60        0        0/0     0.00
Dolphincat                  17499  100.00 %       32      0    0/1042    546.84        0        0/0     0.00
 - Blizzard IV               7791   44.52 %       13      0  287/1042    599.31        0        0/0     0.00
 - Drain                       99    0.57 %        3      0      0/99     33.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Freeze II                  511    2.92 %        1      0   511/511    511.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Stone IV                   197    1.13 %        1      0   197/197    197.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Thunder IV                8901   50.87 %       14      0   300/853    635.79        0        0/0     0.00
Fionaa                      15408  100.00 %       34      0   22/1156    453.18        0        0/0     0.00
 - Bio II                      60    0.39 %        2      0     22/38     30.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Blizzard IV               6621   42.97 %       11      0  410/1145    601.91        0        0/0     0.00
 - Burst II                   699    4.54 %        1      0   699/699    699.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Drain                      273    1.77 %        4      0     57/72     68.25        0        0/0     0.00
 - Freeze II                 1876   12.18 %        3      0   561/727    625.33        0        0/0     0.00
 - Thunder II                 240    1.56 %        2      0   115/125    120.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Thunder III               1040    6.75 %        3      0   174/632    346.67        0        0/0     0.00
 - Thunder IV                4599   29.85 %        8      0  342/1156    574.88        0        0/0     0.00
Kisu                        15771  100.00 %       38      0    0/1233    403.03        1    859/859   859.00
 - Bio II                     114    0.72 %        2      0     31/83     57.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Blizzard III               859    5.45 %        1      0       0/0      0.00        1    859/859   859.00
 - Blizzard IV               4950   31.39 %       10      0   220/821    495.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Burst II                  2806   17.79 %        4      0   260/963    701.50        0        0/0     0.00
 - Drain                      433    2.75 %       12      0     2/119     36.08        0        0/0     0.00
 - Freeze II                 3627   23.00 %        4      0  417/1233    906.75        0        0/0     0.00
 - Thunder III                256    1.62 %        1      0   256/256    256.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Thunder IV                2726   17.28 %        4      0   361/850    681.50        0        0/0     0.00
Lydia                         316    3.85 %        1      0   316/316    316.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Banish III                 316  100.00 %        1      0   316/316    316.00        0        0/0     0.00
Nihil                           8  100.00 %        1      0       8/8      8.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Dia III                      8  100.00 %        1      0       8/8      8.00        0        0/0     0.00
Thejon                        542  100.00 %        3      0    74/237    180.67        0        0/0     0.00
 - Banish III                  74   13.65 %        1      0     74/74     74.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Holy                       468   86.35 %        2      0   231/237    234.00        0        0/0     0.00
Vestal                        838    2.06 %       14      0     7/109     59.86        0        0/0     0.00
 - Huton: Ni                  122   14.56 %        2      0    13/109     61.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Huton: San                  80    9.55 %        1      0     80/80     80.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Hyoton: Ni                 322   38.42 %        5      0     17/83     64.40        0        0/0     0.00
 - Hyoton: San                228   27.21 %        4      0      7/80     57.00        0        0/0     0.00
 - Raiton: Ni                  86   10.26 %        2      0     30/56     43.00        0        0/0     0.00


Skillchain Damage
Skillchain          SC Dmg  # SC  SC.Low/Hi  SC.Avg
SC: Detonation         222     1    222/222  222.00
SC: Fragmentation      171     1    171/171  171.00
SC: Impaction          427     1    427/427  427.00
SC: Light              471     2    160/311  235.50
SC: Reverberation      377     1    377/377  377.00

Also, only have the occ attack twice h2h. Still on final trial for 2-3

[pathwriter]

Ok... I say this intending no offense, but is the fact that you're utterly stomping all over everyone else a function of your weapon and Footwork, is it because everyone else sucks, or are you just main assist and getting a huge advantage there? I'd love for it to be the first reason, but I've gotta play the skeptic.

[Cream Soda]

Pld is the main assist, so that's def not it. I play aggressive though, so I wouldn't take it too harshly (in case anyone else is playing layed back, but that's usually not till a few hours in when everyone is tired), mainly showing the fast tp gain (keeping up w/ the sams) and the consistent tornado kick damage.

[Cream Soda]

I just asked merow, he entered about 3 mins late. Everything else should be accurate though.

[pathwriter]

What was your Double Attack (or whatever we want to call it) percentage? I know you don't have Ridill Claws yet, but after seeing that shockingly bad video you took in Kuftal with 8 or so rounds of zero extra attacks, I'm curious to know if it has improved itself. Unfortunately, all the parses I see you folks post confuse the death out of me with how it reports multiple attacks.

[pathwriter]

Also, you had a full whiff on Tornado Kick? I know it's statistically possible and I've certainly done it a time or two with Dragon Kick and Howling Fist, but that's a little irritating. Even without a serious Accuracy build, I'd have hoped at least one of the secondary attacks would've landed.

[Motenten]

My guess on that would be hitting the weaponskill just as a thf mob uses its 2hr. Have had that happen more than I like.

The DA rate of another parse he had (standard h2h mode) ended up at ~40% after I fixed a minor pseudo-bug in KParser (the coding was intentional, but triggered incorrect behavior with small sample sizes). Don't think I've seen a proper one with Footwork, though.

[Cream Soda]

Pretty sure I tornado kick'd a perfect dodge mob. Never see which 2hr it uses based on how fast my chat log flies by. As for the DA rate, I did some more work w/ it on ki and bg and seems to be at about the 40% of the other weps. I just had some really shitty luck on that vid, I suppose.


Highlight of the dyna run (lol unboosted, too)

[pathwriter]

What are you using as your WS build? The need to balance some kind of Accuracy into Tornado Kick makes it a bit of a headache to my mind. There's still a bunch of Accuracy in my Dragon Kick build (Anwig with 4 STR/AGI, 15 WS Acc./2% WS DMG, gorget, and a fair chunk of DEX), but without yet having Kyoshu Kyahan, I imagine a lot of extra attacks are going to whiff over time and that bugs the hell outta me.

[Cream Soda]

Basically have two builds

//cancel 68
/equip head "Anwig salade"
/equip neck "Thunder Gorget"
/equip ammo "Bibiki Seashell"
/equip body "Kirin's Osode"
/equip hands "Tpl. Gloves +1"
/equip ring2 "Rajas Ring"
/equip ring1 "Flame Ring"
/equip waist "Warwolf Belt"
/equip legs "Usukane Hizayoroi"
/equip feet "Kyoshu Kyahan"
/equip back "Forager's Mantle"
/equip ear2 "Bushinomimi"
/ja "Boost" Tigerwoods
/wait 1
/equip hands "Alkyoneus's Brc."
/ws "Tornado Kick" <t>


And for the second build, swap Kyoshu for Dune boots. If it's something w/ shit evasion, then I'll use genbu's kabuto.

But yea, 25 ws acc head and 20 acc on feet, I go dmg+ everywhere else rly.

[Cream Soda]

Also, I was eating pizza, if that helps you. (and the majority of my misses that run were killshots, so yea)

[pathwriter]

Sounds like I should be ok if I keep an Accuracy ring on and use Minuet Earring whenever that is active, then. Of course, gotta reactivate my account first.

Genbu's Bucket is pretty much retired except as a Chakra piece for me. With three jobs that could make use of Anwig Salade, I couldn't justify turning it into an Asuran Fists-only helm and the 2% WS damage in addition to 4 STR beats the pants off 15 VIT.

[Banter]

I've got to say I'm fucking shocked to see a 50:50 WS:TP ratio on MNK while still managing to out do other DD's that handily.

[pathwriter]

The only thing that has kept Monk closer to a 60:40 TP:WS split is that our weaponskills are very middle-of-the-road. As far as TP gain is concerned, I never had trouble keeping pace with a Samurai outside of when he was using Meditate. They'll get more TP than me over a given period of time, of course, but the difference is actually a lot narrower than people might imagine. Having a multi-proc weapon that is stronger than every H2H weapon around, even if it involves a pretty huge increase in Delay, really makes Monk sick. I don't like the idea of having to use Footwork, but for those kinds of numbers, I'll get over it and bang out the trials.

Really curious to see some solid numbers on Ridill Claws once the slaughter by Apkallu has been completed.

[Cream Soda]

143 birds to go. I have a blm and a sam w/ me. Idk how long they'll stay tho. As soon as they leave, I'm fucked.

[Banter]

pathwriter, on 30 June 2010 - 11:37 PM, said:

The only thing that has kept Monk closer to a 60:40 TP:WS split is that our weaponskills are very middle-of-the-road. As far as TP gain is concerned, I never had trouble keeping pace with a Samurai outside of when he was using Meditate. They'll get more TP than me over a given period of time, of course, but the difference is actually a lot narrower than people might imagine. Having a multi-proc weapon that is stronger than every H2H weapon around, even if it involves a pretty huge increase in Delay, really makes Monk sick. I don't like the idea of having to use Footwork, but for those kinds of numbers, I'll get over it and bang out the trials.

Really curious to see some solid numbers on Ridill Claws once the slaughter by Apkallu has been completed.

Even 60:40 was a little off. I'd always been around 65:35, and had heard of others reporting 70:30 (seems a little extreme but eh). Also, Asuran is still a great WS. No spikes, no pits, always consistant. When I would go MNK/WAR to colibri pts, my average asuran was around 1k damage, which really isn't that much behind other jobs.

[pathwriter]

I cannot recall the last time my Monk was allowed near a Greater Colibri, but it sure as shit wasn't /Warrior. Anyhow, I'm well aware of the joys of having a highly reliable weaponskill. Barring Perfect Dodge, it's pretty much impossible to miss with Asuran Fists, but it'll never produce numbers that make you sit back and say, "Wow, did you just see that?" Not compared to Drakesbane on a pink bird or Tachi: Gekko on a Tarutaru Summoner, anyhow.

I suppose you're right, though, the TP:WS split is a little further than I said. I suppose that Tornado Kick is picking up some of the slack and, possibly, TP is simply not outputting the same damage. With a 5-hit (or whatever the hell we want to call it, the TP return from Footwork'd weaponskills always makes it hard for me to decide), it certainly speeds up TP gain and, thus, weaponskill frequency far in excess of the ~30 extra DMG rating and 10% Attack. Regular application of Boost + WS delay (2 seconds per, for those not aware) also slows down melee damage.

[Austar2.0]

So TK the new WS of choice when using footwork?

[Appie]

pathwriter, on 30 June 2010 - 08:24 PM, said:

Also, you had a full whiff on Tornado Kick? I know it's statistically possible and I've certainly done it a time or two with Dragon Kick and Howling Fist, but that's a little irritating. Even without a serious Accuracy build, I'd have hoped at least one of the secondary attacks would've landed.

This happened 4 or 5 times this 3rd trial, 1 time in the 2nd trial. Gotta love EP's with their mad proc rate on Para tp moves and evading weaponskills even if focus is up (not like it matters for EP's but still).

Tornado Kick has yet to impress me actually and I'm running the same WS set as Cream Soda since I got the WS :/

This post has been edited by Appie: 01 July 2010 - 02:59 AM

[Cream Soda]

If you use a macro like mine, you get epic dmg